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2025 Streaming and TV Ratings Discussion

Yosemite Sam

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There is zero evidence that crowd figures impact TV ratings. Most fans watch the game for the actual match and would not even notice or care about the size of the crowd.

It's only crowd enthusiasts in here that watch games for crowds in the stands. 99% of viewers don't give a shit.
 

Canard

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There is zero evidence that crowd figures impact TV ratings. Most fans watch the game for the actual match and would not even notice or care about the size of the crowd.

It's only crowd enthusiasts in here that watch games for crowds in the stands. 99% of viewers don't give a shit.
Especially given how good NRL ratings are, and how poor some of our crowds can be.

Its not a coherent arguement.
 

Canard

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Frankly Im surprised Union, which is clearly a 2nd tier sport these days, rated nearly 2/3rds of the NRL.

And in a game against a 2nd tier nation.

Despite what we believe, they would consider that a massive result.
 

The_Wookie

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Wow they are still doing that bs

They need to seperate the numbers for each game and present them separately not aggregate them like that

That’s so dishonest

Where were you when the NRL did this for years to claim friday nights?

Its not dishonest if its transparent. And its absolutely well known they do this...publicly.
 

Perth Red

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Especially given how good NRL ratings are, and how poor some of our crowds can be.

Its not a coherent arguement.
Its be interesting to see the stats on that.
Do games in big stadiums with big crowds draw bigger tv audiences?
Id say its likely as these games also get the media the around them raising their profile and appeal to the neutral viewer.
 

Canard

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The NRLW on Thursday rated higher. I'm not sure I would call it a massive result.
The NRLW result was fantastic, but clearly benefited from being played at a time that fans are conditioned to watch footy (Thursday night). Womens footy is a huge growth potential for our game, and I feel confident in saying that its quality is far better than any other domestic womens footy code.

As for Union, for a 2nd tier sport played on a Saturday afternoon against a 2nd tier nation, it seems like a decent result. I doubt any other sport besides AFL and NRL would get anything like that.

To be honest I didn't even know there was a game on, until old mate above mentioned it.
 

titoelcolombiano

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Wow they are still doing that bs

They need to seperate the numbers for each game and present them separately not aggregate them like that

That’s so dishonest
Rigged comp
False participation numbers (Auskick)
Relying on reach to claim TV ratings wins
Adding two games together to get an average ratings figure still lower than an NRL game.
Certain teams having billions of members but suspiciously poor attendances

Would you really expect any different from them?
 

Wb1234

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Rigged comp
False participation numbers (Auskick)
Relying on reach to claim TV ratings wins
Adding two games together to get an average ratings figure still lower than an NRL game.
Certain teams having billions of members but suspiciously poor attendances

Would you really expect any different from them?
They claimed Nathan Cleary as a junior

Sent him a letter in the mail to tell him

Him and Ivan were puzzled how they worked that out
 

macca_saint

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Frankly Im surprised Union, which is clearly a 2nd tier sport these days, rated nearly 2/3rds of the NRL.

And in a game against a 2nd tier nation.

Despite what we believe, they would consider that a massive result.
Wow I didn’t realise it had gotten that bad for Union in this country that they would consider the Wallabies rating less than 2/3 of a mid-table NRL club game a “massive result”.
I suppose it’s all relative when you look at their ratings for the past 5-10 years. The bigger concern for them must surely be the ratings of their domestic comp.
 
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Canard

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Wow I didn’t realise it had gotten that bad for Union in this country that they would consider the Wallabies rating less than 2/3 of a mid-table NRL club game a “massive result”.
I suppose it’s all relative when you look at their ratings for the past 5-10 years. The bigger concern for them must surely be the ratings of their domestic comp.
Honestly I didn't even know the game was on, and it was against Fiji.

I would have expected it to be more like A League ratings.

In the AFL states, the Wallabies exposure is Zero.
 

Billythekid

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Need wookie to bring some data on this. When I first saw those ratings my initial thought was they’re absolute dogshit but maybe that’s decent for the wallabies?

Rating significantly worse than a regular season game of NRL or AFL doesn’t seem particularly good.
 

Wb1234

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Bledisloe used to average 1 million back in the glory days of wendall sailor

Last year 280 k for the last bledisloe up to around 500k

Super rugby aren’t released but it’s probably 60k to 80k for the Aussie games and basically zero for the nz games

Rugby league tests smash union ones

Heck png v Fiji in Australia outrated bledisloe 3

They are lucky to have the tv deal they have

Without the hype of the lions tour and home World Cup they may have had a deal of half its current number
 

Canard

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Need wookie to bring some data on this. When I first saw those ratings my initial thought was they’re absolute dogshit but maybe that’s decent for the wallabies?

Rating significantly worse than a regular season game of NRL or AFL doesn’t seem particularly good.
Maybe its a Sydney thing.

But Im not sure why LU people seem to think that Union is a big sport in Australia in 2025.

Its a code that has almost zero appeal outside pockets of Sydney and Brisbane, and is very much 2nd tier.

To get within even 50% of an NRL or AFL game would be a huge win for most codes in winter.

When it comes to TV sports in the Australian Winter its NRL and AFL first and second and daylight third.
 
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