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Rd20: 3pm Parra v Canberra GAME DAY THREAD @ GIO Stadium 19/7/25

Soto

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Tbf to Avenger he called out Lomax early and said he should be back on the wing after 30 mins in Melbourne and that Centre wasn't his position due to the errors he was making.

Lomax badly needs Moses back and we also need to stop kicking for him off every set.

Its become predictable and no longer a play that's going to end up in the positive.
How many has he actually caught?
Quality over quantity...look at Xavier Coates over Lehi Hopoate last night.
The opposition is ready for lomax and he gets tackled straight away or he passes it back.
I think he needs to come in field or move to the left for a change up in an attacking raid. Why not put it up for him and Russell to follow through?
Lomax worries me. Doesn't seem happy.
Maybe fatigued. Maybe unhappy playing wing or in a side who's constantly getting pumped..
Moses back probably gives the whole team a massive boost.
Moses, Moretti and Penisini come straight back in.
Looks like Jnr will be gone now.
Will be interesting what he does with Penisini coming in and who goes out.
I'm also intrigued on what the plan is with TDS and Riley Smith.
We need to win 3 more games to avoid the spoon.
Hopefully Moses plays all the remaining games and we win 3 or 4....
That will give me some hope and belief otherwise the shit show continues
 

King-Gutho94

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Doesn't matter who coaches these guys....I don't think anyone can eliminate the stupidity in thier game. Some of the errors are mind boggling. Also, can any of these merkins jump on a loose ball without fumbling it. It's so frustrating.

Every time they make a line break, I tell my wife, watch them f**k this up.....and they always do....

We are simply the stupidest team I've ever witnessed. It's embedded. I don't know how they can fix this. It's these errors that is costing us games. Along with the referees not helping.

Also, did someone from the eels bang Ennis's missus?
Hindmarsh called him a grub.

Ennis hasn't forgotten
 

King-Gutho94

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I see Flanagan has had a whinge about the officials … high time Ryles had a crack we are getting absolutely murdered
He has said before he doesn't have the runs on the board to have a crack at them yet.

He also mentioned after a game i think it was the sharks game where we copped that call against Simmonson saving s try.

That he has worked under a coach previously that got himself so obsessed and worked up over referee decisions it wasn't healthy as its out of his control.

I think the dig was at Trent Robinson btw.

The fact we folded in the last 5-10 mins we lost any hope of complaining and yes the referee did contribute to that last 5 mins
 

Soto

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I see Flanagan has had a whinge about the officials … high time Ryles had a crack we are getting absolutely murdered
And Flanagan was right too...
Ryles also needs to man up and call it for what it is....if paying $10k is what it takes to be officiated correctly then so be it. The Eels fans deserve better. All fans do. Bottom teams cop the rough calls every week.
Does anyone reckon Klown was put in charge cause we were bent over badly by Cough last week?
Seriously if Klown is the #1 ref why was he given Roiders Eels game? NRL trying appease us...dismally backfired
 

Parrapat

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The stats say (admittedly 4 weeks old) that we are net positive in both penalties and repeat sets. It’s not the refs stopping us from winning.

The argument that the “good” teams get the rub of the green and the “shit” teams are hammered because “corruption” is non factual also. The better teams generally give away more penalties and repeat sets than the shit teams. They are good enough to win anyway.

We as Parra fans have massive blue and gold coloured glasses. We love to blame a ref.

Don’t get me started on the commentators. They are also not against us. It’s painful to read the same dribble every week, generally from the same people.

We are simply not very good right now. We show glimpses but not for long enough. We are getting better though.
Although I agree that we make too many dumb mistakes in possession to "deserve" winning games that does not negate what is a clear bias by the referees against Parramatta. What causes that bias is debatable but what is not debatable is the evidence of that bias.

I've already cited the penalty last week by Peter Gough of JAC for incorrect play the ball and the non-penalty by the same Peter Gough for exactly the same infringement by Matthew Eisenhuth that led to a try.

The penalty against JAC was a huge momentum swing because not only were we 10-4 up we were in possession, which, as you would know penalties in possession are coach killers for being the dumbest of dumb. That was 8 points gifted to the 4 peat Panthers in a game they won by 8 points.

Just because we drop the ball or throw a misdirected pass out of panic doesn't let the ref get off scot-free for what are clearly biased decisions that have re-directed momentum from the Eels to the opposition.

What really grinds my gears about that incorrect play the ball penalty against JAC is not just because we were in possession 20 metres out on our 2nd, or that it's a nit picking technical penalty whereas glaring forward passes or head highs go undetected, or that the crack down on this technicality had already occurred for the first 3 rounds and then just as suddenly disappeared till now, it was the irony that we were being penalised for an infringement that the Panthers had mastered in their run to their 4th grand final victory in 2024.

The crackdown on incorrect play the ball came about due to that infamous Panthers come from behind victory 34-36 against us in round 23 last year.


If Alanis Morissette were to re-write her song with actual examples of irony the penalty by Gough would be a classic.

An Eel got penalised for incorrect play the ball
Against the team that mastered the art which caused a ref crackdown
It's a Josh Addo-Carr millimetre piece of boot leather on the sideline
While the painted on eyes touchie can't see metres forwards passes


And isn't it ironic?
Don't you think?


Remember that JAC possible boot on the sideline disallowed try against the Dragons? Knowing how deaf dumb and blind the touchies are to forward passes against us, like Starling's several yesterday, yet they could detect a millimetre of JAC boot onto a possible spillage by whoever painted the sideline, how can you even doubt they have a bias against us?

The evidence each week is overwhelming.

A Melbourne Scum mate of mine was praising Harry Grant to me the other day about what a genius player he is and I had to pull him up with this correction: There is zero chance that if Harry Grant played for the Eels he would get away with the bullshit stunts he pulls week in and week out in the ruck.

I seriously think that the only reason the NRL won't bring in forward pass technology is because the Scum would never win a game again and if we ran the technology over their seasons under Bellamy every premiership would be stripped. Because Bellamyball relies upon a short forward pass to a player in an off side position. Yet if Eels did that, not a chance they're getting away with it.

Which is why Bellamy will never be considered among the great coaches because he's never had to coach a non-Scum team with the NRL's thumb on the refereeing scale.

End of rant.
 
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Parrapat

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Wowee, I just looked up that 2024 round 23 game against the Panthers and guess who the ref was?


Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?
 

Hindmarshisgod2

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Although I agree that we make too many dumb mistakes in possession to "deserve" winning games that does not negate what is a clear bias by the referees against Parramatta. What causes that bias is debatable but what is not debatable is the evidence of that bias.

I've already cited the penalty last week by Peter Gough of JAC for incorrect play the ball and the non-penalty by the same Peter Gough for exactly the same infringement by Matthew Eisenhuth that led to a try.

The penalty against JAC was a huge momentum swing because not only were we 10-4 up we were in possession, which, as you would know penalties in possession are coach killers for being the dumbest of dumb. That was 8 points gifted to the 4 peat Panthers in a game they won by 8 points.

Just because we drop the ball or throw a misdirected pass out of panic doesn't let the ref get off scot-free for what are clearly biased decisions that have re-directed momentum from the Eels to the opposition.

What really grinds my gears about that incorrect play the ball penalty against JAC is not just because we were in possession 20 metres out on our 2nd, or that it's a nit picking technical penalty whereas glaring forward passes or head highs go undetected, or that the crack down on this technicality had already occurred for the first 3 rounds and then just as suddenly disappeared till now, it was the irony that we were being penalised for an infringement that the Panthers had mastered in their run to their 4th grand final victory in 2024.

The crackdown on incorrect play the ball came about due to that infamous Panthers come from behind victory 34-36 against us in round 23 last year.


If Alanis Morissette were to re-write her song with actual examples of irony the penalty by Gough would be a classic.

An Eel got penalised for incorrect play the ball
Against the team that mastered the art which caused a ref crackdown
It's a Josh Addo-Carr millimetre piece of boot leather on the sideline
While the painted on eyes touchie can't see metres forwards passes


And isn't it ironic?
Don't you think?


Remember that JAC possible boot on the sideline disallowed try against the Dragons? Knowing how deaf dumb and blind the touchies are to forward passes against us, like Starling's several yesterday, yet they could detect a millimetre of JAC boot onto a possible spillage by whoever painted the sideline, how can you even doubt they have a bias against us?

The evidence each week is overwhelming.

A Melbourne Scum mate of mine was praising Harry Grant to me the other day about what a genius player he is and I had to pull him up with this correction: There is zero chance that if Harry Grant played for the Eels he would get away with the bullshit stunts he pulls week in and week out in the ruck.

I seriously think that the only reason the NRL won't bring in forward pass technology is because the Scum would never win a game again and if we ran the technology over their seasons under Bellamy every premiership would be stripped. Because Bellamyball relies upon a short forward pass to a player in an off side position. Yet if Eels did that, not a chance they're getting away with it.

Which is why Bellamy will never be considered among the great coaches because he's never had to coach a non-Scum team with the NRL's thumb on the refereeing scale.

End of rant.
Post of the year. We'll said.

If anyone can argue against anything on this post, they must be as stupid as our players.
 
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I think he is as the club has extended him till the end of 28...
I think Ryles has shown Penisni a lot of love this season for whatever reason, and he's not close to being on the dropped to Cup list.

Though I could be wrong, and Ryles could like how SImonssen was arguing with Lomax to try and stop Lomax's out of sync defensive reads - either running up and across by himself, or failing to sgift up when the centre inside him does.
 

Avenger

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How many has he actually caught?
Quality over quantity...look at Xavier Coates over Lehi Hopoate last night.
The opposition is ready for lomax and he gets tackled straight away or he passes it back.
I think he needs to come in field or move to the left for a change up in an attacking raid. Why not put it up for him and Russell to follow through?
Lomax worries me. Doesn't seem happy.
Maybe fatigued. Maybe unhappy playing wing or in a side who's constantly getting pumped..
Moses back probably gives the whole team a massive boost.
Moses, Moretti and Penisini come straight back in.
Looks like Jnr will be gone now.
Will be interesting what he does with Penisini coming in and who goes out.
I'm also intrigued on what the plan is with TDS and Riley Smith.
We need to win 3 more games to avoid the spoon.
Hopefully Moses plays all the remaining games and we win 3 or 4....
That will give me some hope and belief otherwise the shit show continues
We probably just miss the spoon but I wouldn’t mind if we got it to demonstrate to these morons in the front office on their decision making over the years. It’s f**king outrageous that we have got to this point and it reeks of the early 90’s when we were just as mediocre.

Lomax has been disappointing and is basically a dumb footballer all be it gifted in a physical sense. He is also ridiculously slow and his mental toughness after the game where I saw him cry is a worry. Think Brett Plowman.

Russell is our new Robert Muchmore but actually gives less. Ryley Smith is terrible but tries hard, so did Shane Muspratt. Charlie Guymer with his massive metres is similar to Chris Muckert. Even Iongi is starting to regress and is probably getting tired and needs some decent coaching to get him to the next level. Reminds me a little of Wade McKinnon. Paulo is trying hard but is channeling Dallas Weston. Hopgood is looking like Lee Hopkins.

There is a pattern emerging here isn’t there? you see I’ve seen this shit before.
 

Delboy

First Grade
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The Raiders game showed up a consistent theme, our centres are lacking in speed, awareness and passing skills.Thats all 3 that are available, when the Raiders made any sort of break , their centres were lining up for a pass , the Dolphins are experts at it.

Until we upgrade several positions ( we have cap availability , but no targets) we will see more of the same. The Cup team got shredded on the edges again , with Dunster and Tago willing but not quick and unable to cope .

If the team is unable to convert some big breaks it tells the tale, identify what we need and go hard . To be honest Addo Carr is playing above his pay rate, as is Jack Williams - the mostly reserve grade signings made by the club are slowly improving but wouldn’t be first choice at the top 4.

Sound familiar, recruitment issues , so who is held responsible, no one by the look of it.
 

Avenger

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The Raiders game showed up a consistent theme, our centres are lacking in speed, awareness and passing skills.Thats all 3 that are available, when the Raiders made any sort of break , their centres were lining up for a pass , the Dolphins are experts at it.

Until we upgrade several positions ( we have cap availability , but no targets) we will see more of the same. The Cup team got shredded on the edges again , with Dunster and Tago willing but not quick and unable to cope .

If the team is unable to convert some big breaks it tells the tale, identify what we need and go hard . To be honest Addo Carr is playing above his pay rate, as is Jack Williams - the mostly reserve grade signings made by the club are slowly improving but wouldn’t be first choice at the top 4.

Sound familiar, recruitment issues , so who is held responsible, no one by the look of it.
Samrani would have to be one of the most mediocre signings in recent memory. Do these people actually watch some of their games. He is a plodder yet has been extended but people here will tell me he’s just a back up. Problem is we are full of back ups which is why we are second last.
 

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