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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

titoelcolombiano

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Not up to you I'm afraid.

DCE had his best game of the year last night. And the Titans spine is by far the worst in the comp.

DCE ticks all the boxes. Release Brimson.
That's gold 😂😂😂 release Brimson for a 37 year old you'll get one season out of that has already backflipped on the club previously. Geez, lucky you aren't running the Tits, they'd get the spoon 10 years in a row with you making those kind of calls
 

Vlad59

First Grade
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But you guys just throw out any fact or stat you don't like...

Yeah I carefully curated an account for years and a thousand posts just so I could finally launch a secret AFL troll mission. I can't believe you saw through it! Truly a dizzying intellect.

Anyway you're getting a little bit worked up about it so I'll just leave you be so you don't have to keep seething all day.
You haven’t produced any stats at all. Just opinions and ‘a mate told me’. Just admit you are wrong mate. It’s okay! The fact you lied about Canberra rugby league shrinking is your problem. Now settle petal.
 

Fangs

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That's gold 😂😂😂 release Brimson for a 37 year old you'll get one season out of that has already backflipped on the club previously. Geez, lucky you aren't running the Tits, they'd get the spoon 10 years in a row with you making those kind of calls

Straight into the 8 with DCE.

With Brimson they've been straight to the shithouse for years now. He has to go.
 

Warrimoo3

Juniors
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It’s time to scrap the 6 again rule. It was implemented with good intentions to keep the game moving but in reality it’s just an albatross around the game’s neck. There’s nothing more frustrating as a fan when the game sequence goes set restart/set restart/try . Even more so when a team has defended the set on their line bravely when late in the count you hear that stupid noise signalling 6 again. And a lot of the time when signalled there is no difference in the ptb speed.

Even when your team scores on the back of that , your first reaction is embarrassment. And when your team is on the receiving end you feel like putting a brick through the TV.
 

Desert Qlder

First Grade
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It feels like the 'six-again' is an addition to penalties, not a replacement. Don't have hard data on that but it's a gut feel.

Be interesting if those in the amateur data community have those statistics.
 

titoelcolombiano

First Grade
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It’s time to scrap the 6 again rule. It was implemented with good intentions to keep the game moving but in reality it’s just an albatross around the game’s neck. There’s nothing more frustrating as a fan when the game sequence goes set restart/set restart/try . Even more so when a team has defended the set on their line bravely when late in the count you hear that stupid noise signalling 6 again. And a lot of the time when signalled there is no difference in the ptb speed.

Even when your team scores on the back of that , your first reaction is embarrassment. And when your team is on the receiving end you feel like putting a brick through the TV.
Is that you Kenty? 😜
 

mongoose

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It’s time to scrap the 6 again rule. It was implemented with good intentions to keep the game moving but in reality it’s just an albatross around the game’s neck. There’s nothing more frustrating as a fan when the game sequence goes set restart/set restart/try . Even more so when a team has defended the set on their line bravely when late in the count you hear that stupid noise signalling 6 again. And a lot of the time when signalled there is no difference in the ptb speed.

Even when your team scores on the back of that , your first reaction is embarrassment. And when your team is on the receiving end you feel like putting a brick through the TV.
never liked it, surprised how popular it is with fans...
 

Warrimoo3

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I don’t think it’s popular with fans at all. I talk to a lot of genuine supporters and I haven’t met one who is a fan of it. Can you imagine team X attacking in a grand final behind by 2 with 5 minutes left receiving 3 set restarts in a row and winning on the back of it. ? Would be a hollow victory. You should have to earn your tries , not have them presented to you on a silver platter.
 

Fangs

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I don’t think it’s popular with fans at all. I talk to a lot of genuine supporters and I haven’t met one who is a fan of it. Can you imagine team X attacking in a grand final behind by 2 with 5 minutes left receiving 3 set restarts in a row and winning on the back of it. ? Would be a hollow victory. You should have to earn your tries , not have them presented to you on a silver platter.

There is no 'Six Again Fan Club'. Nor is there a 'Penalty Fan Club'. No fan wants either.

But watch the product with six agains vs penalties and you'll have your answer as to why RL is the premier sport in Australia right now. NRL is simply better to watch now than the previous decade and this rule change is one of the main reasons why.
 

Perth Red

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It’s time to scrap the 6 again rule. It was implemented with good intentions to keep the game moving but in reality it’s just an albatross around the game’s neck. There’s nothing more frustrating as a fan when the game sequence goes set restart/set restart/try . Even more so when a team has defended the set on their line bravely when late in the count you hear that stupid noise signalling 6 again. And a lot of the time when signalled there is no difference in the ptb speed.

Even when your team scores on the back of that , your first reaction is embarrassment. And when your team is on the receiving end you feel like putting a brick through the TV.
Good in theory but you have to remember why it was brought in in the first place. Cynical penalties being given away inside the 20m so defence could get set and have a breather. Teams only have themselves to blame for its existence.
 

siv

First Grade
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It feels like the 'six-again' is an addition to penalties, not a replacement. Don't have hard data on that but it's a gut feel.

Be interesting if those in the amateur data community have those statistics.
Yes it replaced penalties

- ruck penalty
- inside the 10 penalty
- not dropping out the ball correctly penalty
- not kickoff correctly penalty
- not playing the ball correctly penalty

Plus
- replace the scrum when the ball found touch
 

Trifili13

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Good in theory but you have to remember why it was brought in in the first place. Cynical penalties being given away inside the 20m so defence could get set and have a breather. Teams only have themselves to blame for its existence.
Or the referees could have sin binned the cynical teams. It seems as though the better teams were happy to give away a cynical penalty as they could defend it. Then with the 6 agains, the better teams speed up the ruck when they have the ball by playing tunnel ball and the lower teams get shafted by trying to slow it down.

Just want the refs to apply the rules and not pick and choose. I know we don't want a thousand penalties a game but if a coach is dumb enough to have their team constantly breaking the rules then keep penalising them. Why change the rules because some teams consistently break them, just penalise the transgressors. They will quickly wise up that they will have to stop giving penalties away.
 

titoelcolombiano

First Grade
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One adjustment they could make is to give a proper explanation for what the defending team is being penalised for, instead of 'Ruck infringement'. The ref could call out specifically what the issue was on the run which can then be communicated via the broadcast and put on the big screen at the game. Gives it a bit less vagueness and less perception that the ref is managing the game.
 

Perth Red

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Or the referees could have sin binned the cynical teams. It seems as though the better teams were happy to give away a cynical penalty as they could defend it. Then with the 6 agains, the better teams speed up the ruck when they have the ball by playing tunnel ball and the lower teams get shafted by trying to slow it down.

Just want the refs to apply the rules and not pick and choose. I know we don't want a thousand penalties a game but if a coach is dumb enough to have their team constantly breaking the rules then keep penalising them. Why change the rules because some teams consistently break them, just penalise the transgressors. They will quickly wise up that they will have to stop giving penalties away.
All penalties did was punish the attacking team. Six agains cost the defending team much more. In that regards you can say its been a success. I do agree though it does appear at times totally random and I feel the refs are far more happy to give them as there isnt time to review if ref is right or being pedantic. The cynic in me would say its become the perfect tool for keeping games close and giving teams a chance to score.

Id suggest if you looked at every PTB inside the 10m a defender would be offside 9/10.
 

Chief_Chujo

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There is no 'Six Again Fan Club'. Nor is there a 'Penalty Fan Club'. No fan wants either.

But watch the product with six agains vs penalties and you'll have your answer as to why RL is the premier sport in Australia right now. NRL is simply better to watch now than the previous decade and this rule change is one of the main reasons why.
People quickly forget what an abysmal game it was when teams were giving away penalty after penalty on their line.
 
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