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2025 R24 Thu - Penrith 18-22* Melbourne @ CommBank

Who wins?


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Apey

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I don't see Cleary as much of a diver, and I say that with my team being on the end of those penalties last week. More just a protected species. The bigger problem is the rule though, we've gone completely overboard on protecting kickers. A kicker will survive if his foot comes down and grazes an opponents thigh at the high speed of 1m/s. The second one he got last week was embarrassing for the sport.
 
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I don't see Cleary as much of a diver, and I say that with my team being on the end of those penalties last week. More just a protected species. The bigger problem is the rule though, we've gone completely overboard on protecting kickers. A kicker will survive if his foot comes down and grazes an opponents thigh at the high speed of 1m/s. The second one he got last week was embarrassing for the sport.
100% agree with this. Neither of the penalties Cleary received last week should have been penalties, but both times Cleary got up straight away and ran to take his position in the line.

If falling over after being hit (even if the hit is legal) after kicking is diving, just about anyone who has ever kicked a ball in league is a diver.
 

Pantherjim.

Referee
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Even as a Penrith fan, uncertain why Ivan and Clez are trying to make out that Harry Grant cost us the game? The game was well and truly lost when Blaize Talagi popped up that silly pass which was intercepted. Had he held on to the ball itself, it never even would’ve come to Golden Point. Can’t expect do that against a club the calibre of Melbourne and not get punished! The boy has a lot to learn!
 

Chins

Bench
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Even as a Penrith fan, uncertain why Ivan and Clez are trying to make out that Harry Grant cost us the game? The game was well and truly lost when Blaize Talagi popped up that silly pass which was intercepted. Had he held on to the ball itself, it never even would’ve come to Golden Point. Can’t expect do that against a club the calibre of Melbourne and not get punished! The boy has a lot to learn!
The boy made a mistake but our "Superstar" rep backrower was the one who handed back momentum with his AWFUL ball security.
 

Exsilium

Coach
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I felt Penrith were set up for two plays, the FG and the overlap play on their left side.

If Moses or Cleary gets the ball and passes with Grant committing to the same action, it’s play on.

In my head, irrespective of this result, if you have a clear path, but instead throw an arm out and contact a defender, you’re committing to that defender. It’s the same with obstruction plays. Under review, discretion per the rule and is applicable so far as the disadvantage of being impeded. It is based on the initial contact and proximity to determine if an advantage was gained. As with most FG situations, the likelihood that grant makes it another 10m or so to pressure Cleary is how the rule applies for block plays every other time.

Ultimately, Grant had to shut down two plays, the FG and the set play for the overlap. He killed both successfully,

The other issue is where a defender can and cannot stand. If a defender provides enough space for clear passage, why does the rule reward the defending team in a points scoring situation but is often ignored any other time a team could be seen to have gained an advantage, For EG: The attacking team is deep in their own half and on 5th tackle the marker has to run around a decoy, kick clears and it’s play on more often then not. The advantage for the defending team is ignored or not applied in the same way by the same rule.
 

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