Is the PNG club even gonna happen?

[Steel Saints]

What risk

The Aussie govt is paying for most of if

Risk reward is hugely skewed in rugby leagues favour

The Australian govt is basically paying for rugby league to grow in png (minus the annual grant the nrl will provide)

The risk is after 10 years of government funding. How will PNG be financially viable after that period?

 

[Wb1234]

The risk is after 10 years of government funding. How will PNG be financially viable after that period?

From the nrl grant and corporate revenue

To be honest I’ve got no idea what the 30 million pa is actually for

They don’t need it

They’ll be self sufficient from the nrl grant and corporate income alone

Plus the tax advantages are a huge advantage over other expansion clubs in attracting marquee players

Other nrl clubs are already saying png has too many advantages

 

[Canard]

Tourists? Air BnB?

Ha f**k me

 

[taste2taste]

Tourists? Air BnB?

Ha f**k me

Are you going to predict PNG will be as big as a disaster as AFLX ?

 

[Foreign Legion]

We all should be on team PNG, we are getting a tax funded NRL team. Something the AFL and Union would die for.

 

[BuffaloRules]

We all should be on team PNG, we are getting a tax funded NRL team. Something the AFL and Union would die for.

AFL just gets billion dollar tax funded stadiums… which annoys me

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

PNG have been working hard for decades to get to this. Can anyone here say that the Hunters are a failure in any way? If not, why will the step up fail? After a decade they'll be producing players like we have already seen from their country.

Give it a chance, don't be so Rugby League and do it for 1-2-3 years and stop.

 

[Pippen94]

PNG have been working hard for decades to get to this. Can anyone here say that the Hunters are a failure in any way? If not, why will the step up fail? After a decade they'll be producing players like we have already seen from their country.

Give it a chance, don't be so Rugby League and do it for 1-2-3 years and stop.

PNG we be a powerhouse. Naysayers are threatened.

 

[Wb1234]

It’s not even 600 million either

It’s closer to 800 million as Albo lent the png govt another 200 million or so to pay for the athletes village

And in ten years png can just go to China and get them to fund the team

Once the funding is in place from the Aussie govt good chance it stays in perpetuity but will be used differently

30 million pa is nothing in the scheme of things china would’ve spent far more if asked (billions)

 

[Perth Red]

From the nrl grant and corporate revenue

To be honest I’ve got no idea what the 30 million pa is actually for

They don’t need it

They’ll be self sufficient from the nrl grant and corporate income alone

Plus the tax advantages are a huge advantage over other expansion clubs in attracting marquee players

Other nrl clubs are already saying png has too many advantages

the $30mill is covering what would have been the nrl grant. This was always going to be a cost neutral situation for nrl given png won’t add anything to the nrls revenue pot.

tigers have lost millions last two years, but sure png ticket sales and sponsors will do better I’m sure lol.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Any info on the location for the proposed athletes village and when ground improvements will start and if they are behind schedule

No, not really and I didn’t ask.
Reading the last couple of pages it would seem that a few forum members must think that PNG doesn’t already have foreign investment or that big businesses don’t exist there or a competently run organisation i.e. their national rugby league, isn’t there.

But the truth is all those three things exist prominently in PNG to varying degrees.

From what I could tell in my recent short visit there is that their national comp is well run all things considering and whilst it’s obviously not at a NSW Cup or Q Cup level it does resemble something of a Ron Massey cup or a BRL A-Grade.

Obviously foreign investment does exist in PNG and they do have their own big corporations over there.

We are not plonking a team in the middle of the jungle but the infrastructure does need a little bit of a touchup however it’s nowhere near as dire as the posters in here who have never been over there might think it is. Is 2 years enough? Touch and go.

 

[Wb1234]

the $30mill is covering what would have been the nrl grant. This was always going to be a cost neutral situation for nrl given png won’t add anything to the nrls revenue pot.

tigers have lost millions last two years, but sure png ticket sales and sponsors will do better I’m sure lol.

Nah can’t see the nrl not having to pay then a grant

If so even better for the nrl as its a 300 million gift for them

It will go to establishment costs and juniors and hopefully invest in some income producing assets like maybe hotel for visiting fans and a bar / club

 

[Vlad59]

No, not really and I didn’t ask.
Reading the last couple of pages it would seem that a few forum members must think that PNG doesn’t already have foreign investment or that big businesses don’t exist there or a competently run organisation i.e. their national rugby league, isn’t there.

But the truth is all those three things exist prominently in PNG to varying degrees.

From what I could tell in my recent short visit there is that their national comp is well run all things considering and whilst it’s obviously not at a NSW Cup or Q Cup level it does resemble something of a Ron Massey cup or a BRL A-Grade.

Obviously foreign investment does exist in PNG and they do have their own big corporations over there.

We are not plonking a team in the middle of the jungle but the infrastructure does need a little bit of a touchup however it’s nowhere near as dire as the posters in here who have never been over there might think it is. Is 2 years enough? Touch and go.

Great post mate. There are too many negative thinkers here. PNG has two years to get a team on the field and 10 years to get their shite together to build a sustainable club. The first bit might be tough. The second part? Personally I cannot see how a country with so much foreign investment in it and with so many huge companies located there can’t be a long term success. If they can get some credible early years on the field the potential for this club is pretty scary compared to a local Aussie suburban club like mine.

 

[BuffaloRules]

tigers have lost millions last two years, but sure png ticket sales and sponsors will do better I’m sure lol.

wrong … Richardson has said they are profitable this season …

 

[BuffaloRules]

No, not really and I didn’t ask.
Reading the last couple of pages it would seem that a few forum members must think that PNG doesn’t already have foreign investment or that big businesses don’t exist there or a competently run organisation i.e. their national rugby league, isn’t there.

But the truth is all those three things exist prominently in PNG to varying degrees.

From what I could tell in my recent short visit there is that their national comp is well run all things considering and whilst it’s obviously not at a NSW Cup or Q Cup level it does resemble something of a Ron Massey cup or a BRL A-Grade.

Obviously foreign investment does exist in PNG and they do have their own big corporations over there

We are not plonking a team in the middle of the jungle but the infrastructure does need a little bit of a touchup however it’s nowhere near as dire as the posters in here who have never been over there might think it is. Is 2 years enough? Touch and go.

I’m sure they can just delay it a year if they have to… but I wouldn’t describe a new build for the player accomodation as a “touch up “… unless they are planning on buying an existing location ? They are going to be reliant on attracting foreigners at least initially to provide a competitive team, and I imagine where they are going to be spending the majority of their time will be an important consideration ..

I’d also argue that establishing and having success in an elite sporting competition is a unique undertaking, which history shows is difficult enough to do in Australia .. so because Westpac and QBE are over there is kinda irrelevant in regards to this discussion…

 

[BuffaloRules]

PNG have been working hard for decades to get to this. Can anyone here say that the Hunters are a failure in any way? If not, why will the step up fail? After a decade they'll be producing players like we have already seen from their country.

Give it a chance, don't be so Rugby League and do it for 1-2-3 years and stop.

I would argue that the success of the Hunters has been limited … one QRL competition win over a decade ago..

here is a list of the players they have brought through to the NRL;

Justin Olam

 

[Red&BlackBear]

I’m sure they can just delay it a year if they have to… but I wouldn’t describe a new build for the player accomodation as a “touch up “… unless they are planning on buying an existing location ? They are going to be reliant on attracting foreigners at least initially to provide a competitive team, and I imagine where they are going to be spending the majority of their time will be an important consideration ..

I’d also argue that establishing and having success in an elite sporting competition is a unique undertaking, which history shows is difficult enough to do in Australia .. so because Westpac and QBE are over there is kinda irrelevant in regards to this discussion…

I wasn’t talking about their village; I was talking about general infrastructure leading into and around the proposed stadium location including the stadium itself.

Established businesses and corporations over there isn’t irrelevant in the slightest; that means there is corporations to draw sponsorship and investment from. Considering half on here are arguing where cash comes from after the government investment decade concludes then I’d say that aspect of establishment corporations is incredibly relevant.

Further to this majority of NRL clubs are run by overarching/seeing businesses or corporations these days. The clubs themselves while integral and most important cog in the machine within these business models are still only one aspect. Once PNG shifts to completely private model; I have no doubts that they will be similarly structured.

 

[Wb1234]

I’m sure they can just delay it a year if they have to… but I wouldn’t describe a new build for the player accomodation as a “touch up “… unless they are planning on buying an existing location ? They are going to be reliant on attracting foreigners at least initially to provide a competitive team, and I imagine where they are going to be spending the majority of their time will be an important consideration ..

I’d also argue that establishing and having success in an elite sporting competition is a unique undertaking, which history shows is difficult enough to do in Australia .. so because Westpac and QBE are over there is kinda irrelevant in regards to this discussion…

It’s like people on here are totally ignorant of the fact that in addition to a local comp png has run a team in the qld cup successfully like the dolphins do and it’s all gone off with a hitch

 

[BuffaloRules]

It’s like people on here are totally ignorant of the fact that in addition to a local comp png has run a team in the qld cup successfully like the dolphins do and it’s all gone off with a hitch

If only the Hunters could develop NRL players though … how do you explain that failure?

 

[Vlad59]

If only the Hunters could develop NRL players though … how do you explain that failure?

Because they haven’t needed to? And because they haven’t had the pathways required? That’s all about to change.