Eels in the media

[emjaycee]

I’m pretty sure he has more sway in that club than any other person. You reckon their CEO is on more $$ than him?

I'm sure he has sway at the Dogs mate. Your post just made it sound like he was their CEO and I was just clarifying that he isn't. In his role as GM of Football, he has heaps of sway in footy decisions, including recruitment no doubt.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

talent identification is one of the hardest things in sports, only a select few organisations in any sports league get it right. how many truly elite talents have parra developed in the last 25 years? Lyon, Hayne, Radradra??? there have been seasons where melbourne field a team with more elite players that they have developed than we had developed in a quarter century. so no, not anyone can identify talent.

This just means the Storm get (and especially, keep) more players without having to overpay. Every club knows who all the talented players are, from as early as 14 years of age. Every single scout at every single club. But they don't all get all these players they want, because every club is competing for them. The Storm didn't 'burn' a draft pick on Brodie Croft. They were able to replace him easily because they essentially get more 'draft picks' than most other clubs. Likewise with the Roosters and Jackson Hastings.

its the ultimate test of player evaluation



14/21 starters for the superbowl winning philadelphia eagles were drafted by the team.

How about the other 57 Super Bowl winners? Don't let recency bias cloud your judgement.

 

[the phantom menace]

How about the other 57 Super Bowl winners? Don't let recency bias cloud your judgement.

Recency Bias...? I think I stayed at that hotel on my last trip to Canberra.

 

[Gronk]

 

[Pazza]

This just means the Storm get (and especially, keep) more players without having to overpay. Every club knows who all the talented players are, from as early as 14 years of age. Every single scout at every single club. But they don't all get all these players they want, because every club is competing for them. The Storm didn't 'burn' a draft pick on Brodie Croft. They were able to replace him easily because they essentially get more 'draft picks' than most other clubs. Likewise with the Roosters and Jackson Hastings.

How about the other 57 Super Bowl winners? Don't let recency bias cloud your judgement.

im sure there are plenty of 14 year olds out there that all the clubs know about and all the clubs are after. But its those diamonds in the rough, those none blue chip talents. Thats where really good talent evaluation comes in.

If youre talking about just those top prospects, then yeah im sure anyone with half a clue can evaluate talent. but im hoping that De Gois and the other guy are looking far beyond just the stand outs.

Feel free to check out the historical record on superbowl winners, unless its the stafford lead rams, youre going to find a lot of side that did a good job on draft day.

 

[PARRA_FAN]

^^ rage bait

Haha, flog. Ciraldo won 7 games in 2023 and had the worst defence in the comp.

 

[thedux]

Feel free to check out the historical record on superbowl winners, unless its the stafford lead rams, youre going to find a lot of side that did a good job on draft day.

Don't forget that the greatest QB in history was taken with pick 199, which means every single other teams' scouts missed multiple chances to snag him. And it's not like he snuck up on them, he was 20-5 in his 2 years as a starter at Michigan.
Not everyone can identify talent, but Bill Belichick could.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Don't forget that the greatest QB in history was taken with pick 199, which means every single other teams' scouts missed multiple chances to snag him. And it's not like he snuck up on them, he was 20-5 in his 2 years as a starter at Michigan.
Not everyone can identify talent, but Bill Belichick could.

So good at identifying talent he picked six merkins ahead of him? Brady was the Patriots' seventh pick in that draft. What made Brady great wasn't anything he showed on the field at college. It was only discovered after he started playing in the NFL. The Patriots just got lucky.

 

[Eelementary]

Wrong

Ive seen too many nfl drafts to agree with that assertion

NFL is a complex case, though.

You draft a receiver - he's an athletic specimen; he can run, he can catch, he can break tackles.

But he's dumb as a fence post, and cannot learn routes, or blocking.

You trade for a veteran receiver, who is nowhere near as athletic as the young buck, but he knows his routes, and blocking, and will make clutch plays for you.

Who is more valuable?

There are loads of nuances to the NFL that male spotting genuine talent much tougher, imo.

The beauty in rugby league lies in its simplicity - can a bloke catch, run, and tackle?

If they're a half, can they kick, and pass?

Then you have more subtle elements like reading a game, etc.

 

[thedux]

So good at identifying talent he picked six merkins ahead of him? Brady was the Patriots' seventh pick in that draft. What made Brady great wasn't anything he showed on the field at college. It was only discovered after he started playing in the NFL. The Patriots just got lucky.

He picked 6 players before him because they had 3-time Pro Bowler Drew Bledsoe (he went to his 4th 2 years after Brady was drafted) as the starting QB at the time. Belichick was drafting for need, so to question his eye for talent shows limited understanding at best.

 

[85 Baby]

Don't forget that the greatest QB in history was taken with pick 199

Doug Flutie?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He picked 6 players before him because they had 3-time Pro Bowler Drew Bledsoe (he went to his 4th 2 years after Brady was drafted) as the starting QB at the time. Belichick was drafting for need, so to question his eye for talent shows limited understanding at best.

My point was nobody saw Brady’s talent, so he is irrelevant to the discussion. An absolute outlier. If anything it’s his fault he missed out on those early career earnings by not being good enough for a higher draft pick. If he picked up a career ending injury he might be broke and unknown now. Hardly the fault of the 31 teams that didn’t pick him early in the draft.

 

[85 Baby]

im sure there are plenty of 14 year olds out there that all the clubs know about and all the clubs are after. But its those diamonds in the rough, those none blue chip talents. Thats where really good talent evaluation comes in.

If youre talking about just those top prospects, then yeah im sure anyone with half a clue can evaluate talent. but im hoping that De Gois and the other guy are looking far beyond just the stand outs.

Feel free to check out the historical record on superbowl winners, unless its the stafford lead rams, youre going to find a lot of side that did a good job on draft day.

 

[85 Baby]

Not everyone can identify talent, but Bill Belichick could.

He still can

 

[Johnny88]

‘Perfect person we needed at the club’: Josh Addo-Carr’s professionalism wows Eels
From dumping Clint Gutherson to recruiting Dylan Walker, Jason Ryles has made some big calls. But it’s an NRL lifeline handed to Josh Addo-Carr that is having the biggest impact.

Jason Ryles took a gamble on Josh Addo-Carr but Parramatta centre Will Penisini believes the signature of the former embattled Canterbury flyer has paid the biggest dividend in the rookie coach’s roster overhaul.
Ryles has made a number of huge calls since joining the Eels, none bigger than controversially moving on skipper Clint Gutherson along with veteran forwards Reagan Campbell-Gillard, Joe Ofahengaue and Ryan Matterson.
The coach also landed boom rookie Isaiah Iongi, seasoned campaigner Dylan Walker, workhorse forward Jack Williams and Canterbury duo Joash Papalii and Jordan Samrani.
In June lured rising rake Tallyn Da Silva away from the Wests Tigers.
The club’s biggest signing coup came after NSW Origin winger Zac Lomax agreed to join the Eels on a four-year deal from 2025.
But Penisini believes Addo-Carr has been Ryles’ most astute signing to date.
“Foxx has actually impressed me the most out of everyone that has come to the club,” Penisini told this masthead.
“What he has brought to this club is leadership experience and energy.
“I didn’t know him before this but that footy education part that he brings has been massive for us.
“I was very surprised by how he goes about his business, he is very professional and he’s a great teacher, especially with the younger players in our group.
“He’s the most vocal in team meetings, and when he talks everyone listens.”

Justin Lloyd
Eels skipper Mitchell Moses echoed Penisini’s sentiments but took the praise of Addo-Carr’s influence on the Eels even further.
Moses said the NRL lifeline handed to Addo-Carr, who was sacked 10 months ago after returning a positive roadside drugs test, has emerged as the heartbeat of Ryles’ Parramatta rebuild.
The halfback credited Addo-Carr’s energy and leadership as key in the cultural shift at Parramatta under Ryles.
“You can hear him before you see him,” Moses joked. “He’s been unbelievable.
“What he has done for our squad ever since he has come into our team environment, he’s been unreal.
“His experience and how he speaks to the boys, even no. 30 (on the rosters), he gives them the time of day. Doing extras with them after training. The quality time he is putting into helping other players and the younger boys … I haven’t really seen that before.
“He has been the perfect person we needed at the club.”

Ryles was no stranger to Addo-Carr’s exploits having worked with the former Blues flyer during his time as an assistant to Craig Bellamy in Melbourne.
After handing Addo-Carr a one-year lifeline in November, Ryles activated a clause in the club’s favour to keep the speedster in the blue and gold at least until the end of 2026.
Addo-Carr, who will line-up for his 200th NRL game when Parramatta take on the Warriors on Friday night, has rediscovered his best form under Ryles, and even has an Ashes Test jumper in his sights.
The 30-year old said a self imposed booze ban and a drastic eight kilogram weight loss has been the driving force behind his on-field turnaround.
“I told Rylesy that I wouldn’t let him down,” Addo-Carr said.
“I haven’t drank in over 12 months, so probably the drinking side of things. I have knuckled down with my recovery so I can perform on the training paddock and on the field.
“I’ve lost a couple of kgs. Especially after last season, I looked like a bodybuilder. It was the heaviest I have ever been. but I feel like it backfired on me
“I was on the carnivore diet, eating four or five times a day. I didn’t have an ounce of fat on me, it was all muscle but it didn’t work for me.
“These skinny legs can only hold a certain amount of weight.”

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[Gazzamatta]

‘Perfect person we needed at the club’: Josh Addo-Carr’s professionalism wows Eels
From dumping Clint Gutherson to recruiting Dylan Walker, Jason Ryles has made some big calls. But it’s an NRL lifeline handed to Josh Addo-Carr that is having the biggest impact.

Jason Ryles took a gamble on Josh Addo-Carr but Parramatta centre Will Penisini believes the signature of the former embattled Canterbury flyer has paid the biggest dividend in the rookie coach’s roster overhaul.
Ryles has made a number of huge calls since joining the Eels, none bigger than controversially moving on skipper Clint Gutherson along with veteran forwards Reagan Campbell-Gillard, Joe Ofahengaue and Ryan Matterson.
The coach also landed boom rookie Isaiah Iongi, seasoned campaigner Dylan Walker, workhorse forward Jack Williams and Canterbury duo Joash Papalii and Jordan Samrani.
In June lured rising rake Tallyn Da Silva away from the Wests Tigers.
The club’s biggest signing coup came after NSW Origin winger Zac Lomax agreed to join the Eels on a four-year deal from 2025.
But Penisini believes Addo-Carr has been Ryles’ most astute signing to date.
“Foxx has actually impressed me the most out of everyone that has come to the club,” Penisini told this masthead.
“What he has brought to this club is leadership experience and energy.
“I didn’t know him before this but that footy education part that he brings has been massive for us.
“I was very surprised by how he goes about his business, he is very professional and he’s a great teacher, especially with the younger players in our group.
“He’s the most vocal in team meetings, and when he talks everyone listens.”

Justin Lloyd
Eels skipper Mitchell Moses echoed Penisini’s sentiments but took the praise of Addo-Carr’s influence on the Eels even further.
Moses said the NRL lifeline handed to Addo-Carr, who was sacked 10 months ago after returning a positive roadside drugs test, has emerged as the heartbeat of Ryles’ Parramatta rebuild.
The halfback credited Addo-Carr’s energy and leadership as key in the cultural shift at Parramatta under Ryles.
“You can hear him before you see him,” Moses joked. “He’s been unbelievable.
“What he has done for our squad ever since he has come into our team environment, he’s been unreal.
“His experience and how he speaks to the boys, even no. 30 (on the rosters), he gives them the time of day. Doing extras with them after training. The quality time he is putting into helping other players and the younger boys … I haven’t really seen that before.
“He has been the perfect person we needed at the club.”

Ryles was no stranger to Addo-Carr’s exploits having worked with the former Blues flyer during his time as an assistant to Craig Bellamy in Melbourne.
After handing Addo-Carr a one-year lifeline in November, Ryles activated a clause in the club’s favour to keep the speedster in the blue and gold at least until the end of 2026.
Addo-Carr, who will line-up for his 200th NRL game when Parramatta take on the Warriors on Friday night, has rediscovered his best form under Ryles, and even has an Ashes Test jumper in his sights.
The 30-year old said a self imposed booze ban and a drastic eight kilogram weight loss has been the driving force behind his on-field turnaround.
“I told Rylesy that I wouldn’t let him down,” Addo-Carr said.
“I haven’t drank in over 12 months, so probably the drinking side of things. I have knuckled down with my recovery so I can perform on the training paddock and on the field.
“I’ve lost a couple of kgs. Especially after last season, I looked like a bodybuilder. It was the heaviest I have ever been. but I feel like it backfired on me
“I was on the carnivore diet, eating four or five times a day. I didn’t have an ounce of fat on me, it was all muscle but it didn’t work for me.
“These skinny legs can only hold a certain amount of weight.”

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Cheers J88.
Much appreciated!

 

[Twizzle]

 

[Pazza]

Is there an Eric grothe jnr jnr??? And if so have we given him a dev contract???

 

[Rocket man]

Is there an Eric grothe jnr jnr??? And if so have we given him a dev contract???

Eric Grothe III

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's a shame clubs go broke when they miss the finals because the (true) fans 'vote with their feet' and refuse to support the club.

NRL 2025: Parramatta Eels set membership record as Ryles style excites fans | Eels

The Eels are preparing to play in front of one of their biggest home crowds of the season against Newcastle on Sunday as fans embrace the entertaining playing style under Jason Ryles.

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