Rugby Australia to target top NRL talent

[Wb1234]

One thing PVL needs to do is allow a marquee player outside of the cap for each club. If a player war is coming and R360 get a dozen NRL players which then filter into the Wallabies team, it suddenly gives them a way back that they don't have at the moment.

A marquee player allowance at least gives clubs some ability to fight the big money offers on some sort of equal footing and not allow the ARU to rebuild the Wallabies on the back of the NRL.

The nrl cap is going up a lot soon anyway

 

[Dogs Of War]

One thing PVL needs to do is allow a marquee player outside of the cap for each club. If a player war is coming and R360 get a dozen NRL players which then filter into the Wallabies team, it suddenly gives them a way back that they don't have at the moment.

A marquee player allowance at least gives clubs some ability to fight the big money offers on some sort of equal footing and not allow the ARU to rebuild the Wallabies on the back of the NRL.

Rugby Union in Australia and NZ is going to be decimated. Cause unless your getting a top up to play for the National squad, the salaries are pretty poor with a salary cap with a larger squad of around $4mil for each team.

I think I read that something like 160 Super Rugby players had talks so far. Way more than the 10 or so we would lose.

As I said, this is Rugbys super league, and really could hurt the game going forward.

I'm not sure the Rugby player outside the cap is required. If R360 happens, plenty of players will be spat back out of that system as well.

 

[ayatollah_murdoch]

No tax on their wages is what I read

No tax on the PNG payroll too.

 

[Wb1234]

No tax on the PNG payroll too.

True but as much as I support png I’d rather be seeing London Miami etc each week

Plus it’ll be a Mickey Mouse comp training will be a bludge it will almost be an exhibition thing

 

[newc18]

True but as much as I support png I’d rather be seeing London Miami etc each week

Plus it’ll be a Mickey Mouse comp training will be a bludge it will almost be an exhibition thing

The problem is you would have to play Union and I'd rather switch to AFL than be associated with that shit sport.

 

[Kurt Angle]

Pro athletes don't like travel

They have strict diet and sleep routines which air travel across multiple timezones impacts greatly

Your normal office worker thinks it's exotuc, they extrapolate their own 3-4 weeks of holiday as being this, but back-to-back

It's not, it's;
Get on a plane, land in some foreign city
Check into a hotel room
Go to a training facility
Come back to hotel for meal and recovery
Play a game
Recovery
Get back on a plane

Most high profile athletes will then be subject to annoyances of people seeking celebrities

RU players can be grateful they're famous nowhere in the planet, let alone Miami, Boston, Madrid and Lisbon

I would suggest most NRL players are grateful most games are 3 hours flight away at most

As far as wages go, the next TV deal should see our stars close to this.

No tax may be a benefit on that side, but maintaining a profile is important too, especially for post career earnings

Craig Wing was high profile, he left early to chase a big pay cheque in Japan.

His profile disappeared. I doubt that would have been the case if he stayed in Sydney

 

[Jetka100]

I’m still yet to see any evidence of who, besides the promoters, actually wanted this competition from the point of view of delivering some interesting product. At least with LIV Golf, IPL, Super League there were some positives they were trying to introduce to improve things. This is based on having a large group of second tier rugby union players and some unknown NRL players put in some random teams playing in some random countries that you may be lucky to see play live once. Can’t see anyone being too passionate about their wins and losses and the quality is likely to be absolute garbage as well.

 

[Dogs Of War]

The problem is you would have to play Union and I'd rather switch to AFL than be associated with that shit sport.

Nothing could get me to play AFL again. Rugby was 10x times the sport to play over AFL.

 

[newc18]

Other way around. I absolutely despise Union and their culture. I don't have anything against AFL other than their fans and administration can be arrogant at times.

 

[Wb1234]

Nothing could get me to play AFL again. Rugby was 10x times the sport to play over AFL.

I played union badly at school

Fell asleep in a maul once

 

[Manurewa_Marlins]

Pro athletes don't like travel

They have strict diet and sleep routines which air travel across multiple timezones impacts greatly

Your normal office worker thinks it's exotuc, they extrapolate their own 3-4 weeks of holiday as being this, but back-to-back

It's not, it's;
Get on a plane, land in some foreign city
Check into a hotel room
Go to a training facility
Come back to hotel for meal and recovery
Play a game
Recovery
Get back on a plane

Most high profile athletes will then be subject to annoyances of people seeking celebrities

RU players can be grateful they're famous nowhere in the planet, let alone Miami, Boston, Madrid and Lisbon

I would suggest most NRL players are grateful most games are 3 hours flight away at most

As far as wages go, the next TV deal should see our stars close to this.

No tax may be a benefit on that side, but maintaining a profile is important too, especially for post career earnings

Craig Wing was high profile, he left early to chase a big pay cheque in Japan.

His profile disappeared. I doubt that would have been the case if he stayed in Sydney

Exactly. It's FIFO work.

 

[Game_Breaker]

If it’s $1.5m US dollars a year tax free, you can understand why players will be switching

That’s insane money

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

R360 doesn't really concern me at all. The whole F1 style concept seems so flawed. Just a bunch of plastic teams flying around the world, playing in front of fans with no investment in any of the teams. It'll be dead within a couple of seasons.

Yeh, Rugby 7 already nailed this concept (weekend piss-up, quick matches you dont care too much about, national teams so easy to pick a favourite)

what is the point if this?

i am actually supportive, but only because it will hurt RU enormously!!

 

[T-Boon]

The NRL should ban nine from having SBW commentate NRL games.

 

[Chimp]

I’ve said many times, the issue here isn’t so much the risk of losing a handful of players, the game can easily cope with that (as it has done forever and a day), the issue is if R360 becomes a credible option, every player manager will use R360 as a negotiation tool to increase value. In reality, this won’t hurt the teams at the top so much, but it’s just another obstacle that the battling clubs have to overcome, and will mean those clubs have to pay even more overs than they so currently to get a half decent player.
I genuinely believe the right thing to do is have all player contracts centrally contracted via the NRL, with their NRL contract being for 1 year longer than their club contract. So as an example, player signs with Cronulla for 2 years at $900k, however the contract is actually a 3 year NRL contract paid at $300k per year, with their player only committed to Cronulla for 2 years. They could sign a new 2 year deal with say Souths, again for $900k (spread over 3 more years of an NRL contract). So in their first year at Souths, they’d get the remaining $300k from 1st contract, and their first $300k from South contract. It’s a bit convoluted, but it means played can’t finish with an NRL club and float off to another sport. If they do, and they break that contract, then blacklist them from the game.
And the NRL clubs should make an agreement than any offer from R360 will not be taken into consideration when negotiating with agents - only compete against genuine NRL contract offers - again, centralising the contracts would also make it just that bit harder for clubs to rort the cap.

 

[Kurt Angle]

In the early to mid 2000's, and up to SBW the bargaining chip was

English Super League
Australian Rugby Union
French Rugby Union

We saw on average a NRL starting back taken every year from Tiquiri onwards (meaning after the Sailor/Rogers buy)

Tiquiri
Ryan Cross
Timana Tahu
Ryan McGoldrick
Fijian Wingers - Koribete and Vanivalu
The Saffa who played for St George, Jarred Saffy?
Sam Harris
Luke Rooney
Craig Wing
SBW
Benji
Mark Gasnier
Will Chambers
Krisnan Inu
Curtis Rona
Craig Gower
Ben T'eo

These all plucked directly from the NRL, let alone Aussies like Mark McLinden who went to RU after a ESL stunt

Add Izzy and cutie if via AFL

If anyone remembers the NRL was more vulnerable financially then, around a $3.4 mil salary cap or something

R360 will kill super rugby outright before it even harms the NRL

 

[Wb1234]

In the early to mid 2000's, and up to SBW the bargaining chip was

English Super League
Australian Rugby Union
French Rugby Union

We saw on average a NRL starting back taken every year from Tiquiri onwards (meaning after the Sailor/Rogers buy)

Tiquiri
Ryan Cross
Timana Tahu
Ryan McGoldrick
Fijian Wingers - Koribete and Vanivalu
The Saffa who played for St George, Jarred Saffy?
Sam Harris
Luke Rooney
Craig Wing
SBW
Benji
Mark Gasnier
Will Chambers
Krisnan Inu
Curtis Rona
Craig Gower
Ben T'eo

These all plucked directly from the NRL, let alone Aussies like Mark McLinden who went to RU after a ESL stunt

Add Izzy and cutie if via AFL

If anyone remembers the NRL was more vulnerable financially then, around a $3.4 mil salary cap or something

R360 will kill super rugby outright before it even harms the NRL

Even worse than that low salary cap clubs were only getting 2.5 million from the nrl cause the tv deal was so awful since news ltd half owned the game

 

[Dark Corner]

Yeh, Rugby 7 already nailed this concept (weekend piss-up, quick matches you dont care too much about, national teams so easy to pick a favourite)

what is the point if this?

i am actually supportive, but only because it will hurt RU enormously!!

Yes Rugby 7's circuit crowds were shocking.

 

[Kurt Angle]

Yes Rugby 7's circuit crowds were shocking.

Because for all intents and purposes, most fans are just watching "green vs yellow", it's just there for the jollies.

HK 7's worked in the day because it was either expats, affordable enough to fly from Sydney or London and the players weren't getting paid much.

Now, take away most of the running, and replace it with scrums and clearing kicks to touch with 15 men in the field... And have it 4 games back to back, like a magic weekend...

In Miami, Boston, Lisbon, Madrid and Dubai...

 

[Diesel]

True but as much as I support png I’d rather be seeing London Miami etc each week

Plus it’ll be a Mickey Mouse comp training will be a bludge it will almost be an exhibition thing

I see your London/Miami and raise you Lisbon and Madrid