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That guy has some strange nuts!
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That guy has some strange nuts!
FFS you’re telling me they’re not supposed to look like that??!!
And his ill-fitting suit coat!
Only if you convince yourself it is. In reality you are attempting those plays because you have to. I mean what else are you going to do? Keep kicking to the corners? A two point field goal attempt is just a process. Whether you score depends on how much you've practiced before the game, and how much time/space you've got in the moment. The latter is the pressure component, because it depends how well your team mates have set you up and how well the defence is trying to stop you. The clock and the scoreboard only matter if you think they matter. The main thing is the relative success of everyone else on the field. This is why Cleary executes well for Penrith (a great team against lesser opposition) and not so well for NSW (against evenly matched opposition).
There’s a reason they call him the ice man. If it’s as simple as just undergoing the process and context doesn’t matter then why was Moses called a downhill skier?
Because he only ever played for shit teams. When Cleary played for a shit team he was Jeff Robson mk2 ffs
Did you watch the 2023 grand final?
When his team had all the ball and Ezra Mam in the opposing defensive line?
You didn’t think he displayed some individual brilliance?
He was called that when he was playing in top 4 sides. He’s only shed the tag now after dominating origin.
Tedesco was a regular Origin player under the same early coaching as Moses. Hayne starred in Origin and won Dally M medals under a string of lemons. Player development is up to the player. These are adults ffs. Penrith brought Ivan Cleary back to the club to keep his son there, not the other way around.
Of course. He's a great player and punishes poor defence.
And unlucky in Origin?
He was in superior sides at origin and still lost so I’m not sure that the argument about him dominating because he’s in superior teams fully explains that phenomenon.
Tbf his origin record is 8-9 (47%) and he’s never won a decider where he’s 0-3. It’s a really weird anomaly for a future all time great.
Not since he started winning premierships and became a leader in the Origin team.
