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Tbf his origin record is 8-9 (47%) and he’s never won a decider where he’s 0-3. It’s a really weird anomaly for a future all time great.
Yep. He's been very unlucky thats for sure.
Tbf his origin record is 8-9 (47%) and he’s never won a decider where he’s 0-3. It’s a really weird anomaly for a future all time great.
What was superior about them?He was in superior sides at origin and still lost so I’m not sure that the argument about him dominating because he’s in superior teams fully explains that phenomenon.
It's just a small sample. 17 games is less than a full season of NRL games. In truth, every player should have an Origin record of about 50%. 47% isn't significantly different from 50%Tbf his origin record is 8-9 (47%) and he’s never won a decider where he’s 0-3. It’s a really weird anomaly for a future all time great.
The 2020 and 2025 NSW teams had far better players than their QLD counterparts. Both very bad losses for NSW.What was superior about them?
Who says they were better? Because they played for better club sides?The 2020 and 2025 NSW teams had far better players than their QLD counterparts. Both very bad losses for NSW.
17 games is most certainly not a small sample size for origin. Steve Menzies has 20 appearances and that puts him at equal 7th most appearances at origin for NSW.It's just a small sample. 17 games is less than a full season of NRL games. In truth, every player should have an Origin record of about 50%. 47% isn't significantly different from 50%
it’s a consensus view that NSW had superior sides in those series (on paper at least). Which teams would have been worth more if you added up their salaries and compared them? I bet NSW would have been worth significantly more.Who says they were better? Because they played for better club sides?
It just means most Origin records are based on small samples.17 games is most certainly not a small sample size for origin. Steve Menzies has 20 appearances and that puts him at equal 7th most appearances at origin for NSW.
Cleary played almost 60 games and played Origin before his dad ever coached him. His first three seasons were under Griffin and Ciraldo.The biggest question should be. If Moses was coached under Ivan and Nathan was coached under BA who would be the better player? There is no doubt Cleary is superior now. I put it down to coaching but. Moses has had useless coaches.
If you don't catch the bus to the game you will lose.
It’s all relative. 17 games is a very healthy sample size for origin.It just means most Origin records are based on small samples.
At high levels not clubDid you watch the 2023 grand final?
I recokn there is also that mental trait where he would watch and study every aspect of the game.The biggest question should be. If Moses was coached under Ivan and Nathan was coached under BA who would be the better player? There is no doubt Cleary is superior now. I put it down to coaching but. Moses has had useless coaches.
Gee it sums up the arrogance of the broncos to ask for a police escort to the game.
I disagree. It just happens to be the best sample we might have. It doesn't mean it's statistically significant. That's why players are picked based on club form, not Origin form.It’s all relative. 17 games is a very healthy sample size for origin.
Then you don’t understand that some things don’t exist in a vacuum and relativity matters.I disagree. It just happens to be the best sample we might have. It doesn't mean it's statistically significant. That's why players are picked based on club form, not Origin form.
No i want an injury free moses next year![]()
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