Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

Can they though?

From their perspective, they can argue that we are not paying him, so why shouldn't some other club be able to. The RLPA is incentivised to maximise player earnings and the NRL wants the best players in its competition, even if they are concentrated in a handful of clubs.

Legally might be a different story though. We certainly hope so anyway.

 

[Eelementary]

From their perspective, they can argue that we are not paying him, so why shouldn't some other club be able to. The RLPA is incentivised to maximise player earnings and the NRL wants the best players in its competition, even if they are concentrated in a handful of clubs.

Legally might be a different story though. We certainly hope so anyway.

I'd wager that our counter-argument would be something along the lines of "We are no longer paying him, because of a choice he made - why should we have a proverbial gun held to our head because of his lack of integrity?"

 

[Pazza]

From their perspective, they can argue that we are not paying him, so why shouldn't some other club be able to. The RLPA is incentivised to maximise player earnings and the NRL wants the best players in its competition, even if they are concentrated in a handful of clubs.

Legally might be a different story though. We certainly hope so anyway.

 

[Gronk]

Not necessarily, the NRL and the rlpa can just say the clause in the release contract is null and void and he is welcome to play wherever he wants.

i’m increasingly confident that is exactly what will happen

They risk an injunction. Plus the NRL walking over the top of the Eels to favour a big club and disregarding the legality of a contract is not a good look. It will upset many many clubs, Not just the Eels.

The only solution is mediation and the primary objective is to make us happy and to a lesser extent, Lomax to play.

 

[Soto]

Simply, Slomax needs to sign a contract saying he's not going to break another contract. End of section

 

[Tiger5150]

Not necessarily, the NRL and the rlpa can just say the clause in the release contract is null and void and he is welcome to play wherever he wants.

i’m increasingly confident that is exactly what will happen

Not sure that is how Contracts work.

 

[Stevie]

There won’t be a way we get any amount added to our salary cap. It’s not possible.

Im saying we'll be offered some sort of financial compensation, instead of a player swap. I obviously hope we tell them to jam it but with our club...

I am not naïve to think we suddenly get a larger salary cap FFS.

 

[emjaycee]

Simply, Slomax needs to sign a contract saying he's not going to break another contract. End of section

That'd be one contract not worth the paper that it's written on.

 

[Soto]

That'd be one contract not worth the paper that it's written on.

Some would argue are any?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'd wager that our counter-argument would be something along the lines of "We are no longer paying him, because of a choice he made - why should we have a proverbial gun held to our head because of his lack of integrity?"

They might argue that we are not disadvantaged because we are no longer paying him. Obviously the market means you can't replace a player of his price/value in the time frame we have to recruit for round one, unless someone else highly valuable is willing and able to get a release this close to season kickoff. And what if nobody is? I don't think the NRL will give a shit about us. They want Lomax back in the game. It will come down to the law enforcing Lomax's contract, that he gains no benefit from unless he can find another NRL gig.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I did previously listen to that. Were any of the people giving their opinion a legal professional like @Legal Eel?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Im saying we'll be offered some sort of financial compensation, instead of a player swap. I obviously hope we tell them to jam it but with our club...

I am not naïve to think we suddenly get a larger salary cap FFS.

If it's the NRL's call, they can give us any dispensation they can justify. But there will be push back from the 15 clubs (plus Bears) not involved in the Lomax transaction.

 

[hindy111]

Ryley Smith is a toiler who found himself in a squad that was light on at the hooker position, and still managed zero TAs in 22 games. I don't understand why people are so excited about him. It's like when merkins were excited about Brandan Hands. Why do you think we bought TDS?

 

[Tiger5150]

Anyone seen Hindy & ParraPat in the same room?

 

[hindy111]

Don’t think he’s a toiler. He’s a little better than that. But agree TDS is more dynamic but before Ryles can trust him to start he’s over all game would have to Improve. At the moment Ryley is more reliable. TDS reminds me a little of PJ Marsh with his running game. Could be a great combo between Ryley / TDS just like Drew / Pj

TDS was basically garbage in games I seen. He looked erratic and clueless. He is nippy out of dummy half. I never really heard of him untill we signed him so will be good to see him after an off-season. Hes still a baby and I'm sure he will improve but the question is how much.

 

[hindy111]

The rumours over heard are Storm offer was around the 350-400k range. I reckon this is why other clubs have jumped in and backed us. NRL if let him play for Storm must make 700k count against their cap as thats his contract value. I doubt the Storm are interested at that price. They just see Lomax as a bargain at 350. Obviously TPAs would be topping him up down there.
f**king grubs

 

[hindy111]

Anyone seen Hindy & ParraPat in the same room?

f**k of merkin

 

[Stevie]

The rumours over heard are Storm offer was around the 350-400k range. I reckon this is why other clubs have jumped in and backed us. NRL if let him play for Storm must make 700k count against their cap as thats his contract value. I doubt the Storm are interested at that price. They just see Lomax as a bargain at 350. Obviously TPAs would be topping him up down there.
f**king grubs

They’ve actually got the full Katoa exception approved. merkins.

 

[Eelementary]

They might argue that we are not disadvantaged because we are no longer paying him. Obviously the market means you can't replace a player of his price/value in the time frame we have to recruit for round one, unless someone else highly valuable is willing and able to get a release this close to season kickoff. And what if nobody is? I don't think the NRL will give a shit about us. They want Lomax back in the game. It will come down to the law enforcing Lomax's contract, that he gains no benefit from unless he can find another NRL gig.

Fair point.

Though I do reckon the fact that he walks out at the stage that he does (meaning a like-for-like replacement is impossible to find), agrees to not play for another team, and then looks to break that contract again has disadvantaged us.

Additionally, we are expected to have a specific amount of spots sewn up in our top 30 - having a rep-class winger walk away, at this late stage, is a clear disadvantage to the club.

Ice no doubt that Lomax's lawyers will make a play for the court's heartstrings, and claim that he's disadvantaged by not being able to play.

But it was a decision he opted to make.

We can't rely on the NRL - they couldn't care less, as long as Lomax plays in the NRL, and attracts fans to games.

But other than Melbourne, I would expect that the majority of the other clubs in the NRL would be far from impressed at seeing Lomax running around for another NRL team.

Lomax was not dismissed - he chose to break his contract, and go elsewhere.

He also agreed to not play for another NRL club without our blessing - if he's now disadvantaged but that, it's his own doing.

Just like the fact that nobody put a gun to his head to leave the Dragons, nobody put a gun to his head to walk out on our lucrative contract with him.

 

[Avenger]

Simply, Slomax needs to sign a contract saying he's not going to break another contract. End of section

That’s basically the condition of any contract. It’s a promise.