Rumours and Stuff

[Gary Gutful]

Leg speed, attitude and a sound background

…and a haircut you can set your watch by.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Blue label i hope.

*balls

 

[hineyrulz]

*balls

Is there any other kind???

 

[TheCrowe]

*oyster

*cult

 

[Gary Gutful]

*cult

*David Koresh

 

[hindy111]

I think Leniu is realistic, for the reason you gave. But Bostock would be the last merkin the Dolphins would let go. Or maybe the third last.

We have big Sam. Unsure how many of these big boys you can carry in your 17 as the game moves towards faster and more mobile props.
But I do like Spencer. I'm suprised Ryles wants another pig tho. I guess Jnr and De Bellin may not go around in 27. Looking at Jnrs fitness currently he may have another year in him.

 

[hineyrulz]

…and a haircut you can set your watch by.

 

[85 Baby]

*David Koresh

*Koch

 

[hineyrulz]

*Koch

Penis.

 

[Legal Eel]

We have big Sam. Unsure how many of these big boys you can carry in your 17 as the game moves towards faster and more mobile props.
But I do like Spencer. I'm suprised Ryles wants another pig tho. I guess Jnr and De Bellin may not go around in 27. Looking at Jnrs fitness currently he may have another year in him.

Would Spencer be ideal on a 6 man bench depending on the nature of each game? Would this slightly lessen his worth, given he would only play in certain defined situations?

 

[85 Baby]

Would Spencer be ideal on a 6 man bench depending on the nature of each game? Would this slightly lessen his worth, given he would only play on certain defined situations?

This is a great point when it comes to the increased bench. It possibly creates a two tier salary especially for props

 

[emjaycee]

This is a great point when it comes to the increased bench. It possibly creates a two tier salary especially for props

Would they have to get a bonus if there was a mid-season injury to another prop and the "limited benchie" had to play more minutes?

Not sure MON could manage that very well.

 

[85 Baby]

Would they have to get a bonus if there was a mid-season injury to another prop and the "limited benchie" had to play more minutes?

Not sure MON could manage that very well.

No. I think it’s a possibility that the addition of bench spots that may only be used sparingly puts downward wage pressure on bench players

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Would Spencer be ideal on a 6 man bench depending on the nature of each game? Would this slightly lessen his worth, given he would only play in certain defined situations?

A dude who doesn’t play every week is definitely worth less than one who does, assuming equal minutes.

Your fifth choice outside back might be worth more than a forward who only plays 25 minutes off the bench every week, but comparing like-for-like, the guy playing more is worth more.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No. I think it’s a possibility that the addition of bench spots that may only be used sparingly puts downward wage pressure on bench players

You need to separate the bench rotation (generally middle forwards) from the bench contingency players (edge defenders used in emergencies).

 

[85 Baby]

To need to separate the bench rotation

Have you been drinking today?

 

[emjaycee]

No. I think it’s a possibility that the addition of bench spots that may only be used sparingly puts downward wage pressure on bench players

I think you may be missing my point, which is probably my fault not yours.

Players aren't paid for minutes per game, so when you negotiate a contract you might expect them to be a low-minute benchie and want to pay them less, but mid-seaon they become a high-minute key rotational benchie, that is now underpaid.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Have you been drinking today?

My phone thought To was an appropriate start to that that sentence. Obviously I meant You.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think you may be missing my point, which is probably my fault not yours.

Players aren't paid for minutes per game, so when you negotiate a contract you might expect them to be a low-minute benchie and want to pay them less, but mid-seaon they become a high-minute key rotational benchie, that is now underpaid.

I’d say your offer is based on expected minutes (and attacking involvement per minute). So a bloke who is expected to play 30 minutes and carry the ball a dozen times will be worth more than one who will pay 40 but only carry the ball every five minutes.

From the player’s perspective, he is just comparing one number (the offer) from two or more clubs.

So if another club (e.g. the Tigers) intends to use him more than his existing club (e.g. the Roosters) then the Tigers should be able to offer more money to the player (e.g. Terrell May). Even though he is the same player at both clubs, he is worth more to one club than the other.

 

[85 Baby]

I think you may be missing my point, which is probably my fault not yours.

Players aren't paid for minutes per game, so when you negotiate a contract you might expect them to be a low-minute benchie and want to pay them less, but mid-seaon they become a high-minute key rotational benchie, that is now underpaid.

The player has the same information when they signed the contract and they only become a high minute key rotational because either they are playing at that standard (increasing the chances of them pushing into that tier) or because a better player is unavailable/injured (which is only for the duration of the unavailability, although maybe increases the chance of the first point).
I’m not saying benches will be min wage, but genuine starters are genuine starters, while benches now have increased capacity without an increase in cap allowance or value of an individual position and without a definite use, that’s going to increase competition. Increased competition drives prices down. What I see occurring is top players aren’t going to be paid less, so the remainder of the former “top 17” money needs to be spread across more players.

The alternative probably isn’t as palatable to many people on here where it’s a 3 tiered system (which it is now essentially), but that increases the chances each week of seeing a Jake Tago level player named in your 19 because you have to name 19