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Poupou Escobar

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Ryan Matterson's future appears to be in doubt after the Parramatta forward reportedly suffered another concussion during pre-season.

According to The Sydney Morning Herald, the 31-year-old will seek medical opinion after the latest setback in a career that has been riddled with head knocks.

Matterson was not named for the Eels trial game against the Roosters on Saturday and has been dealing with suspected concussion symptoms of late.

This reminds me of the time Watmough wanted a medical retirement payout outside the cap.
 

Tiger5150

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That's because you conflate local junior with 'junior development'.
Ummm actually Im not. You are projecting that question because it would suit your ridiculous answer and narrative, but unfortunately for your stupid argument, Im not confalting "local junior" with "junior development".

My question was in direct response to Blue & Gold Never fold's posts of "Parra is definitely trying to develop its own and seemingly has a strong intent and conviction to being a development club. We have a crop of exciting prospects emerging from our development pathways. For those that go on to make it in the NRL, Parra will have the same challenge (as the Tigers and others) in retaining them from those clubs that notoriously poach the elite from less financially backed clubs."

So directly discussing junior development, not 'local juniors'.

When I asked the actual serious question of what juniors Parra have developed to high NRL standard, you came up with ONE player, who played 9 games in HM and was completely developed by another club. Says it all really, nothing left to be said but you will twist something.

The shoe is on the other foot now (since 2022 and also a couple of years before Covid) and we are now poaching juniors from other clubs' backyards. Our SG Ball side will probably dominate this year, and it is full of kids poached from elsewhere. But as they become worthy of top 30 contracts, the salary cap becomes a limiting factor and we will lose some of them. Just like you do. But don't pretend we don't have quality local juniors, or a well funded pathways program. Last year was the first time we've had entirely full time pathways coaching staff. It's very exciting.
and yet your answer was a player who was developed (by your own definition) by another club.

Parramatta junior base by participation is rivalling Penrith and second in Sydney only to Penrith and larger than Tigers. Penrith are the benchmark and roll out junior after junior for themselves and everyone else. You guys here delight in rubbing Tigers fans noses in the Tigers juniors excelling elsewhere. Parra should be in the same boat but I actually cant think of a long list.

#developmentclub
 

senior

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Ummm actually Im not. You are projecting that question because it would suit your ridiculous answer and narrative, but unfortunately for your stupid argument, Im not confalting "local junior" with "junior development".

My question was in direct response to Blue & Gold Never fold's posts of "Parra is definitely trying to develop its own and seemingly has a strong intent and conviction to being a development club. We have a crop of exciting prospects emerging from our development pathways. For those that go on to make it in the NRL, Parra will have the same challenge (as the Tigers and others) in retaining them from those clubs that notoriously poach the elite from less financially backed clubs."

So directly discussing junior development, not 'local juniors'.

When I asked the actual serious question of what juniors Parra have developed to high NRL standard, you came up with ONE player, who played 9 games in HM and was completely developed by another club. Says it all really, nothing left to be said but you will twist something.


and yet your answer was a player who was developed (by your own definition) by another club.

Parramatta junior base by participation is rivalling Penrith and second in Sydney only to Penrith and larger than Tigers. Penrith are the benchmark and roll out junior after junior for themselves and everyone else. You guys here delight in rubbing Tigers fans noses in the Tigers juniors excelling elsewhere. Parra should be in the same boat but I actually cant think of a long list.

#developmentclub
No one’s reading that essay
 

Tiger5150

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No one’s reading that essay
Reading is not for everyone

i-prefer-selflearnin.jpg
 

Poupou Escobar

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When I asked the actual serious question of what juniors Parra have developed to high NRL standard, you came up with ONE player, who played 9 games in HM and was completely developed by another club. Says it all really, nothing left to be said but you will twist something.
I was trolling you, as you come in here and troll us. We obviously didn't develop Moses; he was just a local junior.
Parramatta junior base by participation is rivalling Penrith and second in Sydney only to Penrith and larger than Tigers.
Here you are conflating local juniors with junior development again. And Penrith's local juniors dwarf ours and everyone else's. We might be third biggest, with daylight second.
Penrith are the benchmark and roll out junior after junior for themselves and everyone else.
Because they borrowed a bunch of money from James Packer and spent it on pathways.
You guys here delight in rubbing Tigers fans noses in the Tigers juniors excelling elsewhere. Parra should be in the same boat but I actually cant think of a long list.
It's not a long list because we've only been doing it since 2016, with a hiatus during Covid. But from that period we have produced the following merkins now playing elsewhere in the NRL:

Mahoney
Twal
Brown
Kaufusi
Curran
Utoikamanu
Keppie
Stone
Marzhew
Talagi
Hughes
Mooney
Faulalo
Arthur
Sanders

Only about half of them are local juniors.
 

Tiger5150

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It's not a long list because we've only been doing it since 2016, with a hiatus during Covid. But from that period we have produced the following merkins now playing elsewhere in the NRL:

Mahoney
Twal
Brown
Kaufusi
Curran
Utoikamanu
Keppie
Stone
Marzhew
Talagi
Hughes
Mooney
Faulalo
Arthur
Sanders

Only about half of them are local juniors.
see, was that hard? That was the answer to the question I asked, but instead you suggested a merkin you didnt develop.
 

Poupou Escobar

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see, was that hard?
Yes. I had to look through every f**king team list and confirm when they played in our pathways. There were a couple more who only played one NRL game (Fonua and Lenaz) but I think they might no longer be at any club.
That was the answer to the question I asked, but instead you suggested a merkin you didnt develop.
It was easier than doing the research. You'd be surprised how often I put in a load of effort and merkins just take the piss. It's obviously not what most people want to read around here.
 

Eelementary

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Ryan Matterson's future appears to be in doubt after the Parramatta forward reportedly suffered another concussion during pre-season.

According to The Sydney Morning Herald, the 31-year-old will seek medical opinion after the latest setback in a career that has been riddled with head knocks.

Matterson was not named for the Eels trial game against the Roosters on Saturday and has been dealing with suspected concussion symptoms of late.


I think he should sue Felicia Katfusi.
 

Stevie

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Tripp of the tongue: Peter V’landys denies favouritism towards Melbourne Storm and Zac Lomax​

The NRL boss has fired back at conspiracy theories linking him to Melbourne Storm’s Zac Lomax pursuit, citing a High Court battle that makes helping impossible.
Andrew Webster

Peter V'landys says he will not do Matt Tripp any favours over Zac Lomax, left'landys says he will not do Matt Tripp any favours over Zac Lomax, left

Peter V'landys says he will not do Matt Tripp any favours over Zac Lomax, left
ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys has slammed talk he wants rugby league outcast Zac Lomaxto join the Melbourne Storm as a favour to their chairman, bookmaker Matt Tripp, declaring: “If there’s one person I wouldn’t help, it would be him.”
As Parramatta and the club-less winger hurtle towards a showdown in the NSW Supreme Court on March 2, all sorts of theories are getting around about why the NRL has seemingly pitted itself against the Eels.
One is looming broadcast negotiations. A strong Storm is critical. The other is V’landys helping Tripp because of their long-term relationship through racing. Eels officials are conscious of it, even if they haven’t expressed it publicly.
“Matt Tripp took me all the way to the High Court in the race-fields case, which has generated billions of dollars for racing,” V’landys told his column in a lengthy interview this week. “He’s the last person I’d help.”
One of V’landys’ greatest victories as Racing NSW chief executive was convincing government regulators in 2012 to slug online bookies a percentage of betting turnover. Tripp, who at the time operated Betfair and had the financial backing of billionaire James Packer, led the charge against the legislation.
The dispute went all the way to the highest court in the land and V’landys triumphed.
“Matt Tripp knows I wasn’t supporting him (over Lomax) because he knew my stance about (upholding) a contract,” V’landys said. “And Matt Beach, the chairman of Parramatta, we had meetings with him. We tried to see if they could come to a resolution, and I was equally hard on both.
“There’s no way we ever took a side. We just tried to find a resolution. My aim was to find a resolution that satisfied both parties, and that, unfortunately, didn’t happen.”
The Eels are sceptical. They’re expected to argue in court that a phone hook-up involving V’landys, Tripp, Beach, and RLPA boss Clint Newton was more “ambush” than mediation. They will also tell the court the Storm were privy to possible salary cap implications if they did not release Lomax – information that could only have come from the NRL.
Parramatta released Lomax last year so he could join rebel rugby competition R360 on the condition that he couldn’t join another NRL club without their permission.
From the very beginning of this dispute, their rich leagues club has told Beach and chief executive Jim Sarantinos that it will back them until the bitter end.
That’s some undertaking considering it’s about to undergo a $330m redevelopment of its licenced premises.
Zac Lomax takes on the Storm last season. Picture: NRL Images

Zac Lomax takes on the Storm last season. Picture: NRL Images
Why should they cave in? Lomax told them he wanted a release from the final three years of his deal to play in a competition that appears to have been conceived on the back of a beer coaster.
If Lomax was naive enough to walk away from one contract without any real certainty around the R360 competition, it’s on him.
V’landys this week told media outlets that he respected Lomax as a human, talking about his charity work with sick children and expressing concern about his mental health. Privately, the Eels are angry that he played those cards because they’re irrelevant to the case.
Yet V’landys bristles at the claim he’s sided with the Storm in this dispute.
“I’m not keen for Zac Lomax to join Melbourne,” he insisted. “He can join whatever club that wants him. If the Wests Tigers want him, I’d be just as happy for him to go them. Or if Manly want him. I just don’t want Zac Lomax to be lost to rugby league.”
The Tigers sounds good. We’ll even considering say, a rookie winger if they have one with some promise…
 

Timana

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Tripp of the tongue: Peter V’landys denies favouritism towards Melbourne Storm and Zac Lomax​

The NRL boss has fired back at conspiracy theories linking him to Melbourne Storm’s Zac Lomax pursuit, citing a High Court battle that makes helping impossible.
Andrew Webster

Peter V'landys says he will not do Matt Tripp any favours over Zac Lomax, left'landys says he will not do Matt Tripp any favours over Zac Lomax, left

Peter V'landys says he will not do Matt Tripp any favours over Zac Lomax, left
ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys has slammed talk he wants rugby league outcast Zac Lomaxto join the Melbourne Storm as a favour to their chairman, bookmaker Matt Tripp, declaring: “If there’s one person I wouldn’t help, it would be him.”
As Parramatta and the club-less winger hurtle towards a showdown in the NSW Supreme Court on March 2, all sorts of theories are getting around about why the NRL has seemingly pitted itself against the Eels.
One is looming broadcast negotiations. A strong Storm is critical. The other is V’landys helping Tripp because of their long-term relationship through racing. Eels officials are conscious of it, even if they haven’t expressed it publicly.
“Matt Tripp took me all the way to the High Court in the race-fields case, which has generated billions of dollars for racing,” V’landys told his column in a lengthy interview this week. “He’s the last person I’d help.”
One of V’landys’ greatest victories as Racing NSW chief executive was convincing government regulators in 2012 to slug online bookies a percentage of betting turnover. Tripp, who at the time operated Betfair and had the financial backing of billionaire James Packer, led the charge against the legislation.
The dispute went all the way to the highest court in the land and V’landys triumphed.
“Matt Tripp knows I wasn’t supporting him (over Lomax) because he knew my stance about (upholding) a contract,” V’landys said. “And Matt Beach, the chairman of Parramatta, we had meetings with him. We tried to see if they could come to a resolution, and I was equally hard on both.
“There’s no way we ever took a side. We just tried to find a resolution. My aim was to find a resolution that satisfied both parties, and that, unfortunately, didn’t happen.”
The Eels are sceptical. They’re expected to argue in court that a phone hook-up involving V’landys, Tripp, Beach, and RLPA boss Clint Newton was more “ambush” than mediation. They will also tell the court the Storm were privy to possible salary cap implications if they did not release Lomax – information that could only have come from the NRL.
Parramatta released Lomax last year so he could join rebel rugby competition R360 on the condition that he couldn’t join another NRL club without their permission.
From the very beginning of this dispute, their rich leagues club has told Beach and chief executive Jim Sarantinos that it will back them until the bitter end.
That’s some undertaking considering it’s about to undergo a $330m redevelopment of its licenced premises.
Zac Lomax takes on the Storm last season. Picture: NRL Images

Zac Lomax takes on the Storm last season. Picture: NRL Images
Why should they cave in? Lomax told them he wanted a release from the final three years of his deal to play in a competition that appears to have been conceived on the back of a beer coaster.
If Lomax was naive enough to walk away from one contract without any real certainty around the R360 competition, it’s on him.
V’landys this week told media outlets that he respected Lomax as a human, talking about his charity work with sick children and expressing concern about his mental health. Privately, the Eels are angry that he played those cards because they’re irrelevant to the case.
Yet V’landys bristles at the claim he’s sided with the Storm in this dispute.
“I’m not keen for Zac Lomax to join Melbourne,” he insisted. “He can join whatever club that wants him. If the Wests Tigers want him, I’d be just as happy for him to go them. Or if Manly want him. I just don’t want Zac Lomax to be lost to rugby league.”
Did he just throw abdo under the bus
 
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