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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

T-Boon

Coach
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The rules were perfect last year and as a result we had one of the most entertaining and successful seasons ever. There were 5 to 6 games every week that were thrilling and competitive to watch as a neutral.
Too many tries last year were from bombs. I think it was 50%. This year it seems like only about 20%.
We've almost completed 2 rounds this season and there'd be 3 or 4 games total that were entertaining. The rest have been terrible.
Most have been close until the final 10 minutes.
The infuriating part is there was ZERO reason to change the rules. Nobody was calling for it. If you've just come off your most successful season ever you don't f**k around with things.
Attack was up a bit last last year and the crowds and TV were up.
They may be thinking if attack is even more up this year then the crowds and TV will keep getting better and better. They may be right.
The defensive and fitness coaches need to pull their fingers out a little bit. They've had it too easy too long.
 

T-Boon

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What's the radical version?
Something like:

1. allow a 3rd marker after a 1 on 1 tackle or
2. let the guy who made the 1 on 1 tackle not have to be square (is onside so long as behind the advantage line) or
3. the play the ball has to move back two metres or something like that.

1 on 1s are visually great and its wrong they are punished with a quick play the ball and markers not back yet. These address that.
 

Trifili13

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Something like:

1. allow a 3rd marker after a 1 on 1 tackle or
2. let the guy who made the 1 on 1 tackle not have to be square (is onside so long as behind the advantage line) or
3. the play the ball has to move back two metres or something like that.

1 on 1s are visually great and its wrong they are punished with a quick play the ball and markers not back yet. These address that.
I would go with option 2. Option 1 would potentially create an overlap for the attacking team as extra player at marker so more room to attack so you would actually be penalising the 1 on 1 tackle and option 3 most players wander off the mark these days so by going back 2 metres they are probably where they should be playing it in the first place. Option 2 gives the defender a reward by not having to be square, just has to be onside.
 

Wb1234

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An issue with league (and other sports) as I see it is you have more athletes than footballers playing the game. While skill obviously plays a part, it's now about fitness, endurance and structures and who is better at that which then allows them to get control of the game. Skill to a degree has taken a back seat. To me it's not right that wingers and centres are bigger than forwards.

True but also blame how they are coached

I was walking behind Belmore oval on the dogs training ground and they had grids painted on the field where obviously every player had to stand

They have a playbook similar to nfl for most tackles
 

Wb1234

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Too many tries last year were from bombs. I think it was 50%. This year it seems like only about 20%.

Most have been close until the final 10 minutes.

Attack was up a bit last last year and the crowds and TV were up.
They may be thinking if attack is even more up this year then the crowds and TV will keep getting better and better. They may be right.
The defensive and fitness coaches need to pull their fingers out a little bit. They've had it too easy too long.
Penrith don’t seem to have trouble defending even with these fast paced games
 

Trifili13

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True but also blame how they are coached

I was walking behind Belmore oval on the dogs training ground and they had grids painted on the field where obviously every player had to stand

They have a playbook similar to nfl for most tackles
Agree, not enough of heads up footy or playing what's in front of you. Too robotic and all about systems and structure.
 
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The 6 again rule isnt the problem.

It's players not up to the task of defending properly becuase their technique is absolute shit and they're not fit enough and resorting to getting busy with bullshit in the ruck to slow the play the ball down.

Look at my clowns yesterday afternoon, couldn't dominate a tackle early in the first half because they're dragging their asses around the field then have to resort to rubbish in the ruck, ref duly waves it 6 again and it just snowballs for them. We got what we deserved.

The era of players laying all over the ruck was a blight on the game, everyone wanted it sorted, refs came out and blew the pea out of the whistle and everyone (especially clowns in the media) sooked deluxe that it was slowing and ruining the game.

I wouldn't have shifted the 6 again zone back to the 20m, that is one aspect i would have liked to have seen left alone, i think the 40m was honeslty the sweet spot.

Part of that though is on the NRL. Clubs and the referees were not told of the rule change by the NRL until they decided to implement it, and when did they do that? 2 weeks BEFORE this season started!

I mean seriously, how dumb is that? If the NRL wants games to not look so scrappy early in the season due to introducing new rules, they need to introduce them earlier so the players and referees can train and get to understand them and used to them for a longer period before playing/officiating games.
 
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Colk

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Part of that though is on the NRL. Clubs and the referees were not told of the rule change by the NRL unbtil they decided to implement it, and when did they do that? 2 weeks BEFORE this season started!

I mean seriously, how dumb is that? If the NRL wants games to not look so scarpy early in the season due to introducing new rules, they need to introduce them earlier so the players and referees can train and get to understand them and used to them for a longer period before playing/officiating games.

100% It’s very amateur. They didn’t learn the lesson from the first time it happened.
 

Fangs

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Nothing to do with the refs today people. Just absolutely dogshit defence from Newy and Manly.
 

kurt faulk

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The problem isn't the rules, it's, as always, the refs. They're so trigger happy, but not for every team.

We all know what a ruck infringement looks like. They see things that aren't there or don't see things that are there.

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Wb1234

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With the NRL expanding to 18 teams next year – and potentially 20 in the near future – Peter V’landys has confirmed a review into the finals system will occur.


NRL: Ivan Cleary speaks to the media following his sides win over the Sharks.
The NRL will investigate one of the biggest finals shake-ups in the game’s 118-year history with a potential 10-team play-offs series on the horizon for the code.
ARLC chairman Peter V’landys has confirmed a review of the NRL finals system will occur ahead of the competition’s expansion to 18 teams next year – and potentially 20 in the near future.
Following a sizzling start to the 2026 NRL Premiership, V’landys wants more big games and fans staying engaged for longer on the back of a TV ratings bonanza that has dwarfed the AFL’s season launch.
Currently a 17-team competition, the NRL operates on an eight-team, four-week finals series that includes a total of nine games.

However the introduction of the Perth Bears next season, and PNG Chiefs from 2028, will see the NRL expand to a 19-team league within two years.
The ARLC’s ultimate goal is to have a 20-team competition, ideally before 2032, which would see 12 teams excluded from the play-offs under the current finals structure.


V’landys said the introduction of three new teams – Dolphins (2023), Bears (2027) and Chiefs (2028) – to the NRL in five years meant a review of the finals system was due.

“We will be looking at everything,” he said.
“It is a blank piece of paper, especially once we get to 20 teams. That is when we will have the most flexibility.

“That (finals review) is definitely high on the priority list. With more teams, you’ve got to look at the whole competition structure.

“We look at everything through the lens of the fan. We have to look at the structure once we get to more teams.

“I want to satisfy as many fans as possible. If you have more big games at the end of the year to satisfy the fans, then absolutely (we can change it).

“It is a white piece of paper and we will look at it through the lens of the fans.”
The NRL has been operating under its current top eight finals format since the controversial McIntyre System was scrapped in 2012.

The 18-team AFL will this season move to a 10-team finals series with the introduction of a “Wildcard Round” in week one featuring the teams that finish seven to 10.

There are a multitude of permutations for a new-look finals series and the ARLC would have to conduct a deep dive to decide which fit is best – including retaining the current format, implementing the AFL version or a completely different option.
The AFL’s new system could be the easiest to follow but there are other options if the NRL doesn’t want to follow suit.

With the help of artificial intelligence, this columnist analysed a revised finals structure that would see the top 10 teams progress to a five-week, 11-game play-offs series.

The 10-team system would see the top two ranked teams receive a bye in the first week of the finals – a reward for their regular season performances which would also limit player resting in the last round.
Teams three to 10 would feature in four knockout games in the first week of the finals – 3 v 10, 4 v 9, 5 v 8 and 6 v 7 – with no second chance for the losers, creating hype, potential for underdog upsets and ensuring the stakes are high.

The finals series would then progress through qualifying and semi-finals over the next two weeks before the traditional preliminary finals in week four, which decide the grand finalists.

Either system would extend the finals series by a week and inject an extra two matches – generating significant fan interest, crowds, TV ratings and revenue.
A 10-team system would also ensure fans from more clubs remain highly-engaged with the competition for longer at the crunch time of the season.

The NRL has got off to a flying start on the back of its third Las Vegas season launch a fortnight ago.

Thursday night’s Broncos-Eels thriller attracted an average of 772,000 viewers on Channel 9, trumping the AFL’s traditional Carlton-Richmond season-opener (675,000) at the MCG.
The NRL also claimed a win on Friday night as an average of 693,000 tuned in to watch Alex Johnston’s record-breaking feat in the Roosters-Rabbitohs grudge match while the AFL attracted 557,000 on Channel 7 for the Essendon-Hawthorn showdown.

V’landys said the NRL was riding a wave of momentum and it was head office’s job to continue it.

“The ratings have never been bigger than the last two weeks,” he said.
“We are killing the AFL by hundreds of thousands. We beat them on Thursday and Friday night.

“On Thursday they had a pretty serious AFL match, but the Brisbane-Parramatta game was so far ahead it’s not funny.

“Again on Friday night, it was phenomenal. Even the Canberra-Warriors game (on Fox League) was up 10 per cent on last year.”

Tigers specials for the finals now
 
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Colk

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With the NRL expanding to 18 teams next year – and potentially 20 in the near future – Peter V’landys has confirmed a review into the finals system will occur.


NRL: Ivan Cleary speaks to the media following his sides win over the Sharks.
The NRL will investigate one of the biggest finals shake-ups in the game’s 118-year history with a potential 10-team play-offs series on the horizon for the code.
ARLC chairman Peter V’landys has confirmed a review of the NRL finals system will occur ahead of the competition’s expansion to 18 teams next year – and potentially 20 in the near future.
Following a sizzling start to the 2026 NRL Premiership, V’landys wants more big games and fans staying engaged for longer on the back of a TV ratings bonanza that has dwarfed the AFL’s season launch.
Currently a 17-team competition, the NRL operates on an eight-team, four-week finals series that includes a total of nine games.

However the introduction of the Perth Bears next season, and PNG Chiefs from 2028, will see the NRL expand to a 19-team league within two years.
The ARLC’s ultimate goal is to have a 20-team competition, ideally before 2032, which would see 12 teams excluded from the play-offs under the current finals structure.


V’landys said the introduction of three new teams – Dolphins (2023), Bears (2027) and Chiefs (2028) – to the NRL in five years meant a review of the finals system was due.

“We will be looking at everything,” he said.
“It is a blank piece of paper, especially once we get to 20 teams. That is when we will have the most flexibility.

“That (finals review) is definitely high on the priority list. With more teams, you’ve got to look at the whole competition structure.

“We look at everything through the lens of the fan. We have to look at the structure once we get to more teams.

“I want to satisfy as many fans as possible. If you have more big games at the end of the year to satisfy the fans, then absolutely (we can change it).

“It is a white piece of paper and we will look at it through the lens of the fans.”
The NRL has been operating under its current top eight finals format since the controversial McIntyre System was scrapped in 2012.

The 18-team AFL will this season move to a 10-team finals series with the introduction of a “Wildcard Round” in week one featuring the teams that finish seven to 10.

There are a multitude of permutations for a new-look finals series and the ARLC would have to conduct a deep dive to decide which fit is best – including retaining the current format, implementing the AFL version or a completely different option.
The AFL’s new system could be the easiest to follow but there are other options if the NRL doesn’t want to follow suit.

With the help of artificial intelligence, this columnist analysed a revised finals structure that would see the top 10 teams progress to a five-week, 11-game play-offs series.

The 10-team system would see the top two ranked teams receive a bye in the first week of the finals – a reward for their regular season performances which would also limit player resting in the last round.
Teams three to 10 would feature in four knockout games in the first week of the finals – 3 v 10, 4 v 9, 5 v 8 and 6 v 7 – with no second chance for the losers, creating hype, potential for underdog upsets and ensuring the stakes are high.

The finals series would then progress through qualifying and semi-finals over the next two weeks before the traditional preliminary finals in week four, which decide the grand finalists.

Either system would extend the finals series by a week and inject an extra two matches – generating significant fan interest, crowds, TV ratings and revenue.
A 10-team system would also ensure fans from more clubs remain highly-engaged with the competition for longer at the crunch time of the season.

The NRL has got off to a flying start on the back of its third Las Vegas season launch a fortnight ago.

Thursday night’s Broncos-Eels thriller attracted an average of 772,000 viewers on Channel 9, trumping the AFL’s traditional Carlton-Richmond season-opener (675,000) at the MCG.
The NRL also claimed a win on Friday night as an average of 693,000 tuned in to watch Alex Johnston’s record-breaking feat in the Roosters-Rabbitohs grudge match while the AFL attracted 557,000 on Channel 7 for the Essendon-Hawthorn showdown.

V’landys said the NRL was riding a wave of momentum and it was head office’s job to continue it.

“The ratings have never been bigger than the last two weeks,” he said.
“We are killing the AFL by hundreds of thousands. We beat them on Thursday and Friday night.

“On Thursday they had a pretty serious AFL match, but the Brisbane-Parramatta game was so far ahead it’s not funny.

“Again on Friday night, it was phenomenal. Even the Canberra-Warriors game (on Fox League) was up 10 per cent on last year.”

It won’t be up for long with this six again rubbish
 

Iamback

Referee
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Agreed. V’landys ball is still tripe

That is a cop out, we have had virtually no change from last year.

How many actual penalties were in the 20-40m line? Aside from a head high which is still a penalty now not many.

The top 3 teams have been the most settled and as a result are having no trouble keeping teams out.

Pretty much every game had 2-3 very soft tries in it. That is players not rules or referees
 

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