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soc123_au

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I’ll be interested to hear Ricky’s thoughts on why perhaps Savage wasn’t allowed to play on late on when he picked the ball up in space. Did the ref rule a double knock on, it didn’t appear to be the case ball knocked on by the dogs seemed to come of a raiders back so I’m not sure what the ruling was. Savage could have gone the length But was denied.
Apparently a knock on on the last tackle is an automatic stoppage. I'd never heard of that rule before, I thought the same thing and that play was stopped too early, but thats the rule. Never something I'd considered before, but you would think it comes up pretty regularly, heaps of turnovers every weekend where it's play on, surely they happen on the last sometimes as well.
 

Oldpanther86

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Sharks have no patience. They get into a grind for a few sets and if they haven't scored lose their minds and give away a dumb penalty.
 
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Back to the old results.

It used to be whoever we beat this week lost the following week too. Cause we are so physically dominant it usually takes teams a couple of weeks to get over a Penrith belting them.

Cronulla the latest victim.
 

Murraymob1

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I guess a season can turn quickly the tigers has turned for the worst they where being talked up 2 weeks ago luia out for 4 weeks Adam Doughie a few weeks
 

Fangs

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Makasini needs to go back to the wing ASAP once their centres return from injury.

I think Dragons get their first win today. And the other game I have no clue. Titans have actually shown some heart unlike the Cowboys but its away from home.
 

Chins

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Makasini needs to go back to the wing ASAP once their centres return from injury.

I think Dragons get their first win today. And the other game I have no clue. Titans have actually shown some heart unlike the Cowboys but its away from home.
A terrible Sunday really, awful games.
 

soc123_au

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Dargons V Eels might be decent entertainment. The who gives a f**k cup up in QLD we will probably never know, cant imagine anyone caring enough to watch it.
 

Alintheeast

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I watched bit of each of the 3 matches yesterday we are in a different universe. Don’t want to imagine what the comp will look like after expansion.
 

Whino

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Theres a lack of genuinely good coaches is the issue more than players.

I think that is a valid point that often gets overlooked.
I don't think there are enough quality players in the NRL right now. Some quiet honesty are bog average. Some not FG standard.
Yet, There are plenty of good players (Let alone the young players that don't get a decent shot) who in my opinion, are not achieving their full potential. Due to poor club structure, average teammates, and poor coaching.
Just look at the career of Luke Garner at the Tigers. He would not achieved his full potential if he went to the Titans instead of us.
Papali'i another. Had the talent at the Warriors, but struggled for consistently. Reached that full potential at the Eels in a brief time. Then backwards at the Tigers. Thankfully back on track with us.
Jenkins is another. He was in Ron Massey cup 12 months ago! Some would just quit. He didn't. He persevered and got the right coach.

The Next Brandy Alexandre in Harry Seijka might have fared better in our current system. Junior Moors another. Lost talent. There are more.
Coote debuted far to young and was almost wrecked. At least he was able to savage his career at a better club later on with a better coach.
Coaches sometimes go for the sugar hit. The kid looks good in the lower grades. Straight in. If they struggle, out of the team, and sometimes onto the next kid. Shame.

1995 all over again.

I am old enough to remember that era. There were 4-6 crap teams at the bottom. Always getting thrashed. Never any hope of the 8. The bottom 2 were putrid. Bringing in @Oldpanther86 point. There were some woeful coaches of that era too.
 
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I think that is a valid point that often gets overlooked.
I don't think there are enough quality players in the NRL right now. Some quiet honesty are bog average. Some not FG standard.
Yet, There are plenty of good players (Let alone the young players that don't get a decent shot) who in my opinion, are not achieving their full potential. Due to poor club structure, average teammates, and poor coaching.
Just look at the career of Luke Garner at the Tigers. He would not achieved his full potential if he went to the Titans instead of us.
Papali'i another. Had the talent at the Warriors, but struggled for consistently. Reached that full potential at the Eels in a brief time. Then backwards at the Tigers. Thankfully back on track with us.
Jenkins is another. He was in Ron Massey cup 12 months ago! Some would just quit. He didn't. He persevered and got the right coach.

The Next Brandy Alexandre in Harry Seijka might have fared better in our current system. Junior Moors another. Lost talent. There are more.
Coote debuted far to young and was almost wrecked. At least he was able to savage his career at a better club later on with a better coach.
Coaches sometimes go for the sugar hit. The kid looks good in the lower grades. Straight in. If they struggle, out of the team, and sometimes onto the next kid. Shame.



I am old enough to remember that era. There were 4-6 crap teams at the bottom. Always getting thrashed. Never any hope of the 8. The bottom 2 were putrid. Bringing in @Oldpanther86 point. There were some woeful coaches of that era too.
You're right about coaches going for the "sugar hit" because success could earn them millions in being rehired as a successful head coach.

Not many of them step out of the tried and true systems of minimal inexperienced players mixed with lots of experience.

An outside the box coaches or recruitment decision nowadays is to sign a development player from Penrith and hope he brings some Penrith system with him.

There's plenty of them running around at other clubs who never played first grade for us.
 

Oldpanther86

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I think that is a valid point that often gets overlooked.
I don't think there are enough quality players in the NRL right now. Some quiet honesty are bog average. Some not FG standard.
Yet, There are plenty of good players (Let alone the young players that don't get a decent shot) who in my opinion, are not achieving their full potential. Due to poor club structure, average teammates, and poor coaching.
Just look at the career of Luke Garner at the Tigers. He would not achieved his full potential if he went to the Titans instead of us.
Papali'i another. Had the talent at the Warriors, but struggled for consistently. Reached that full potential at the Eels in a brief time. Then backwards at the Tigers. Thankfully back on track with us.
Jenkins is another. He was in Ron Massey cup 12 months ago! Some would just quit. He didn't. He persevered and got the right coach.

The Next Brandy Alexandre in Harry Seijka might have fared better in our current system. Junior Moors another. Lost talent. There are more.
Coote debuted far to young and was almost wrecked. At least he was able to savage his career at a better club later on with a better coach.
Coaches sometimes go for the sugar hit. The kid looks good in the lower grades. Straight in. If they struggle, out of the team, and sometimes onto the next kid. Shame.



I am old enough to remember that era. There were 4-6 crap teams at the bottom. Always getting thrashed. Never any hope of the 8. The bottom 2 were putrid. Bringing in @Oldpanther86 point. There were some woeful coaches of that era too.

Good examples. How many more Garners are out there waiting for a coach to actually get the best out of them. Meanwhile Siebold took broncos to their first spoon and is at least a contender for Manly's first as well.
 

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