The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Jonno]

You probably need to replace the Western stand. Fill the gaps?. New roof? With replay boards, you could place them on the roof structure, just like Evertons new stadium.

Great idea!
Also adds a few more seating to the capacity.
Maybe around 62,000?

 

[It's Been Done]

Great idea!
Also adds a few more seating to the capacity.
Maybe around 62,000?

That would be the best scenario for Suncorp as that would make it the 3rd largest stadium in the country, only behind Accor Stadium (82k) and the MCG (100,024). I'd also as part of that plan, relocate the stadium members to the Western side and give them an increase in seats as well as better facilities without clashing with the general public admission areas like they sort of do on level 3 now

 

[Jpw25111]

That would be the best scenario for Suncorp as that would make it the 3rd largest stadium in the country, only behind Accor Stadium (82k) and the MCG (100,024). I'd also as part of that plan, relocate the stadium members to the Western side and give them an increase in seats as well as better facilities without clashing with the general public admission areas like they sort of do on level 3 now

4th biggest after Victoria Park

 

[Jonno]

4th biggest after Victoria Park

Then Suncorp needs to be 64,000.

 

[Hoofhearted]

$3Billion for a stadium in Canberra, but the Kiwi's can build this for $683M.

 

[Jonno]

Love the roof.Translucent roofing definitely the future of stadium construction allowing natural light,real grass,protection from the elements and the ability to host more than just football codes.
As for Christchurch,at 30,000 capacity,it seems a little low,just like the roof height.

 

[Colk]

Sad for me to say this but the Raiders need to strong arm the government and start selling games to whoever wants them interstate. If Barr the AFL crony thinks he can simply dismiss the biggest sporting club in the city then he needs to think again. We need the NRL to back us on this and bring some heft

Barr's AFL links and ridiculous deals to bring the AFL to Canberra need to be investigated and brought before a commission. I hope anyone in the Sydney RL media reading these threads picks up the scent and starts shining the spotlight on this egregious merkin

What are you implying? If Barr wants an AFL side in Canberra than that is up to him. As Raiders fans, we might not have to like it but there’s nothing untoward about it in general.

 

[Colk]

$3Billion for a stadium in Canberra, but the Kiwi's can build this for $683M.

Canberra is more expensive obviously.

 

[Colk]

What a piece of shit Barr is, he thinks the Raiders are some amateur park team that can just play on the local ovals. Not a professional sports team that relies on revenue from gate takings.

Agreed it is a little disrespectful but it is what it is.

 

[Steel Saints]

It was from a report from one of their feasibility studies. They have had several

https://region.com.au/bizarre-stadium-wars-erupt-as-lee-and-pocock-rubbish-act-governments-3-billion-price-tag-for-city-stadium/802031/

Perhaps but you are in a way impacted by external factors, not always by internal mismanagement; although sometimes they can intertwine.

There is a fair chance that the ACT ain't the only state or territory to be impacted by external factors.

Article is from 2021, and in one paragraph it states "However, Ms Lee said the costings for a new city stadium were bizarre and without basis, particularly when only three years ago, the government’s estimate was just $582 million."

So to go from $582 million to $3 billion in the space of three years is laughable. If only Canberra mirrored what Parramatta did a decade ago.

 

[Diesel]

$3Billion for a stadium in Canberra, but the Kiwi's can build this for $683M.

NZ doesn’t have the CFMEU

 

[Wb1234]

If Clint Newton gets enough pressure to push the issue of Canberra getting upgraded it will be the best thing he’s done at the rlpa

 

[Perth Red]

4th biggest after Victoria Park

5th, Optus holds 65k with drop in seats.

 

[Barney Stubble]

Canberra is more expensive obviously.

its not 4 times more expensive

 

[Barney Stubble]

4th biggest after Victoria Park

The Cricket ground ?

 

[Barney Stubble]

There is a fair chance that the ACT ain't the only state or territory to be impacted by external factors.

Article is from 2021, and in one paragraph it states "However, Ms Lee said the costings for a new city stadium were bizarre and without basis, particularly when only three years ago, the government’s estimate was just $582 million."

So to go from $582 million to $3 billion in the space of three years is laughable. If only Canberra mirrored what Parramatta did a decade ago.

Yea Its a Shame Ms Lee was sacked as Libs leader after the last election , I liked her , a real go getter who didn't mince her words & a stadium would just about have been started by now in Acton on the shores of the lake if she'd been elected. Woden stage 2 light rail would have been stopped at Parliament house & the money saved not going on to Woden ( billions) would have built a cracking new venue

but politics within the party saw to her demise.

This isnt to scale ofc , the space is much smaller then in this image , but it would fit despite Barr moaning it wouldn't. Even if it didn't , reclaim some land from the lake to make it fit you twat, thered be light rail stations commonwealth ave , & pedestrian bridges over parkes way from civic

the Libs had the plan

 

[Red&BlackBear]

You probably need to replace the Western stand. Fill the gaps?. New roof? With replay boards, you could place them on the roof structure, just like Evertons new stadium.

If you’re going to replace the western stand - you might as well look at knocking majority of the rest of the stadium structure down. All the critical services for stadium operations go back to the western stand.

It also has structural ties into the northern and southern stands. Whilst those ties were easily constructed during the build, they are not easily removable for demolition. It will impact both those other stands to an extent.

The below photo might be a bit hard to decipher but what is highlighted in red - is where future provisions were made to extend capacity via the stadium corners.



Corners have concrete columns, concrete beams, concrete slabs, heavier duty structural steel and other construction elements support another tier.

The awning and its supporting columns (also in the corners) would need to be completely removed and re-worked. Thankfully there’s inground pylons not far from the stadium’s corners perimeters to be able to build new awning supporting columns from.

Issue is back in 1999-2000 the stadium was estimated and built for around $280m. Inflation has it around $560m in 2026 but even a 60% re-build/re-work which includes full knock down of western stand, partial knock downs of northern and southern stands plus full removal of awning and construction of corner expansion provisions likely pushes costs above that.

There are other, more cost effective options such as less structural re-work to utilise corners and retaining awning (and therefore awning supporting columns etc). This can easily jag more seating to push capacity to 60k. That option/s (and varying similar) didn’t take into account the current global situation, so the feasibility (cost wise) would need to increase by 15-25%.

How it unfolds, remains to be seen.

 

[Wb1234]

If you’re going to replace the western stand - you might as well look at knocking majority of the rest of the stadium structure down. All the critical services for stadium operations go back to the western stand.

It also has structural ties into the northern and southern stands. Whilst those ties were easily constructed during the build, they are not easily removable for demolition. It will impact both those other stands to an extent.

The below photo might be a bit hard to decipher but what is highlighted in red - is where future provisions were made to extend capacity via the stadium corners.

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Corners have concrete columns, concrete beams, concrete slabs, heavier duty structural steel and other construction elements support another tier.

The awning and its supporting columns (also in the corners) would need to be completely removed and re-worked. Thankfully there’s inground pylons not far from the stadium’s corners perimeters to be able to build new awning supporting columns from.

Issue is back in 1999-2000 the stadium was estimated and built for around $280m. Inflation has it around $560m in 2026 but even a 60% re-build/re-work which includes full knock down of western stand, partial knock downs of northern and southern stands plus full removal of awning and construction of corner expansion provisions likely pushes costs above that.

There are other, more cost effective options such as less structural re-work to utilise corners and retaining awning (and therefore awning supporting columns etc). This can easily jag more seating to push capacity to 60k. That option/s (and varying similar) didn’t take into account the current global situation, so the feasibility (cost wise) would need to increase by 15-25%.

How it unfolds, remains to be seen.

Any chance they can get 80k on the existing site with a total rebuild ?

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Any chance they can get 80k on the existing site with a total rebuild ?

Only if the northern and southern stands are higher than the eastern and western. East/west stands (from a footprint perspective) are maxed out positionally due to Castlemaine St & Inner City Bypass - so a wider footprint to cater for higher stands (east/west) wouldn’t work for those in my view.

The north/south stands it could work. I believe there’s both a La Liga and an NFL stadium that has this sort of layout. Theoretically the entire stadium could shift 25-30m due north and it would allow for wider north/south stands footprints and therefore higher stands which would equal more seating capacity and then it could quite easily nudge an extra 7.5k - possibly 10k on either side (north/south) bringing it all to approx 80k capacity.

Obviously with 2 stands being higher than the other 2 - a roof would be difficult to install but an awning shouldn’t be too much issue across the entire layout. It might look funny though.

 

[Steel Saints]

Any chance they can get 80k on the existing site with a total rebuild ?

It doesn't need to get to 80k. At the most-70k would be brilliant, or close to it.