Correct. I know there is an NRL game but I can't see it scheduled on 9 or 9GEM
Fair chance it will be better than the league game.
Correct. I know there is an NRL game but I can't see it scheduled on 9 or 9GEM
I could only imagine the people crying about how uneven the competition was and every other team sucked…. Ten times worse than now no doubt
Hasn`t affected the game`s trajectory though has it.If the NRL could've picked any team in Sydney to become a super team and win 4 in a row it wouldn't of been f**king Penrith. In fact I'd say Penrith would've been in the bottom 3 choices.
Parramatta, Wests tigers , St George and Canterbury would've been top of that list in the NRLs eyes.
There's no reason any of those teams can't emulate Penrith in the future.
Don't forget a rule change in the six agains which has benefited them quite a lot.How exactly did the NRL have anything to do with Penrith becoming a super team? It was just a perfect storm. An amazing lots of juniors coming through, very competent management and a once in a generation coach. It’s absolutely insane to suggest the NRL caused this or even necessarily would want this (there are multiple other bigger clubs the NRL would want at the top I’m sure).
Truth is there are just a lot of mismanaged teams in the comp. Just look at the tigers, they’ve had all the talent required to be right up there but their management just keep f**king things up.
People complain about the NRL or lack of talent when the real problem is NRL clubs full of nepotism and run like chook raffles.
I'm not arguing that Sydney isn't the main centre of the game, I'm not sure why you would think that.To be fair, you are just equating number of people equals bigger club. I think you have to take into account access to corporates/third parties and media space/concentration.
The game is and will always centred in and around Sydney and to be honest all of those clubs you mentioned, find it difficult to access corporate dollars (it is what it is) nor get any attention from the media or the NRL at large.
It’s not anybody’s fault and it is not really a negative per se, it is just always going to happen.
Maybe we could merge Manly and the Bears.Just some exclusive market comparisons:
Knights = Newcastle, Lack Macquarie, Hunter = 700k (1.1 million if you include Central Coast)
Titans = Gold Coast (640k) and Richmond-Tweed (260k) = 900k
Cowboys = Townsville (260k) and Cairns (250k) but really they were the only local alternative to the Broncos for decades. So it's between 500k - 1million - depending how far south you go.
Raiders = ACT = 454k (not including Southern NSW)
Dragons = Illawarra (314k) + St Georges district
For comparison:
Sharks = Sydney-Sutherland = 230k
Sea Eagles = Sydney-North Beaches = 265k
I think this is what codes like AFL and people in Sydney don't get. Some of the NRL's regional clubs are already bigger than Sydney NRL clubs. If clubs like the Sharks and Sea Eagles don't expand outside their enclaves, the gap will grow wider. And codes like AFL will never appeal to areas like Newcastle unless they put local clubs there (which if they do, will be bigger disasters than GWS/Suns).
I'm not arguing that Sydney isn't the main centre of the game, I'm not sure why you would think that.
My argument is that clubs that people think of as being regional and small (mentioned multiple times in this thread) are actually bigger than some of the Sydney clubs - not only that - but they are some of the NRL's greatest assets.
The Sydney clubs might have "access" to more corporates but there's 9 NRL clubs there (plus all the other sports franchises in other codes) so those corporates, third parties and the media space gets divided up, albeit unevenly. Hence why you'll always have bigger Sydney NRL clubs and small ones (it's a similar story in Melbourne with the AFL).
As for number of people = bigger club, it's not a given that they'll be a bigger club as a guarantee (there will always be bigger Sydney clubs than the Knights, Cowboys, Titans etc), rather that their underestimated market sizes and effective lack of competition means that they can overcome Sydney clubs who exists in Sydney enclaves (Sharks, Sea Eagles etc) which they haven't broken out of.
For example, yeah the Sharks are in the massive Sydney market. But they'll always be the 8th or 9th ranked Sydney club in terms of support and it will never change based on those demographics. Whereas a club like the Knights is in a market that's essentially three times the size of Sutherland shire with no other NRL competition, that can directly tap into a $90-$100 billion GDP economy (Hunter, Newcastle and Central Coast) compared to the Sutherland Shire's $15 billion GDP or the Northern Beaches $22 billion. And what's the Knights' competition? The Newcastle Jets. If I had to choose which to invest in in terms of which will have the strongest future, I'd go the 'small regional' teams like the Cowboys, Raiders and Titans over the Sharks or Sea Eagles. Being in Sydney isn't enough. They need to either go big or they'll be left behind, even by regional clubs.
If the NRL could've picked any team in Sydney to become a super team and win 4 in a row it wouldn't of been f**king Penrith. In fact I'd say Penrith would've been in the bottom 3 choices.
Parramatta, Wests tigers , St George and Canterbury would've been top of that list in the NRLs eyes.
There's no reason any of those teams can't emulate Penrith in the future.
How exactly did the NRL have anything to do with Penrith becoming a super team? It was just a perfect storm. An amazing lots of juniors coming through, very competent management and a once in a generation coach. It’s absolutely insane to suggest the NRL caused this or even necessarily would want this (there are multiple other bigger clubs the NRL would want at the top I’m sure).
Truth is there are just a lot of mismanaged teams in the comp. Just look at the tigers, they’ve had all the talent required to be right up there but their management just keep f**king things up.
People complain about the NRL or lack of talent when the real problem is NRL clubs full of nepotism and run like chook raffles.
Maybe we could merge Manly and the Bears.
2 to 3 monthsThat depends on when they strike this deal.
2 to 3 months
not 2 to 3 years

YeahYeah no good. Sell it as two divisions. Will get less but will make the game better
Yeah
nah..
