Rd5 GAME DAY THREAD: 405pm Parra v Tigers @ Commbank 6/4/26

[hindy111]

Hughes has done jack all this season with an undeniably stronger squad around him.
Katoa aside from a breathtaking pass in round 2 has been big average to start 26.

Moses is the 2nd best 7 in the comp

Id trade him for both of those

 

[Timana]

I would argue that on terms of skills alone, Moses is his equal - possibly even better. Maybe.

But what separates Cleary from Moses is his mentality - never flustered, always composed, and demanding the ball when his team needs a spark.

Cleary is a genuine leader, and a genuine "give the ball, and I'll make something happen" player.

Yes, he plays in a team stacked with talent.

But he's stood up when this same stacked team has been down for the count so many times.

He's easily worth what he's being paid, and more.

Really, Cleary is like Sterlo and Moses is like Kenny.

Kenny does the flashy, naturally gifted stuff and it looks good.

When Sterlo retired, Kenny tried to control the team but didn't really go well. Kenny actually played a middle half role at lock towards his latter years of his career.

Moses should be a floating 6 who kicks.

We need a steady hand (Walker sort of does this but he's not on for 80m mins) to guide the team around and when Moses sees an eyes up opportunity, he overcalls and gets the ball.

From the limited games I have seen Volkman play, I dont think he does that. He sort of digs into the line and passes.

Don't know about Lorenzo.

Tanner Boyd would be good with Moses floating.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pezet is equal 3rd in the comp on TAs and probably in the bottom 3-4 5/8s in the comp - stats dont always tell the whole story

He’s not playing five eighth, he’s playing halfback. Look at how often he passes Moses the ball.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Really, Cleary is like Sterlo and Moses is like Kenny.

Kenny does the flashy, naturally gifted stuff and it looks good.

When Sterlo retired, Kenny tried to control the team but didn't really go well. Kenny actually played a middle half role at lock towards his latter years of his career.

Moses should be a floating 6 who kicks.

We need a steady hand (Walker sort of does this but he's not on for 80m mins) to guide the team around and when Moses sees an eyes up opportunity, he overcalls and gets the ball.

From the limited games I have seen Volkman play, I dont think he does that. He sort of digs into the line and passes.

Don't know about Lorenzo.

Tanner Boyd would be good with Moses floating.

It’s a small sample, but Boyd has been awesome to start the year.

 

[Wizardssleeve]

We recruited well last year and finished the season strongly. We are going worse now because we lost Lomax and now have all these injuries. Not because the squad is shit as you keep trying to claim.

I usually agree with plenty you have to say . But this time I’m afraid you’re trolling or you’ve sustained a serious head injury.

Our roster compared to 70% of the comp is like comparing Somalia to Monaco as a holiday destination .

 

[Wizardssleeve]

I would argue that on terms of skills alone, Moses is his equal - possibly even better. Maybe.

But what separates Cleary from Moses is his mentality - never flustered, always composed, and demanding the ball when his team needs a spark.

Cleary is a genuine leader, and a genuine "give the ball, and I'll make something happen" player.

Yes, he plays in a team stacked with talent.

But he's stood up when this same stacked team has been down for the count so many times.

He's easily worth what he's being paid, and more.

Moses is usually super predictable, mostly due to the fact his halves partners are usually useless in attack . Brown was mostly impotent , Peasant is a statue , the time when Moses looked most dangerous was when Footy Dean partnered him as there was a chance he’d run .

Brown could defend, yeah cool , so could Hindy , but in attack the amount of times he’d either not touch the ball in a set of 6 or would hang out the back and catch and pass was frustrating . No shock that his breakout year our halves were both on fire .
teams can read our attack like a book , 5 hits up , Moses bomb ( previously we really changed it up and Hail Mary to Lomax for a low percentage play.

stick someone even half creative with Moses and we add a whole new threat and uncertainty for the defenders . Unfortunately we are back to Moses needing to create everything .

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I usually agree with plenty you have to say . But this time I’m afraid you’re trolling or you’ve sustained a serious head injury.

Our roster compared to 70% of the comp is like comparing Somalia to Monaco as a holiday destination .

Yet, we are on 2 wins with 4 other sides and going better then 4 other sides on 1 or less wins......and we could have easily been on 3 wins....and that's with our injuries list and tough draw to start the season...

while I agree, we have some way to go to be genuine fringe final contenders this year, I think the perception of the form of some other sides is being over estimated ...compared to ours.....

 

[Wizardssleeve]

Yet, we are on 2 wins with 4 other sides and going better then 4 other sides on 1 or less wins......and we could have easily been on 3 wins....and that's with our injuries list and tough draw to start the season...

while I agree, we have some way to go to be genuine fringe final contenders this year, I think the perception of the form of some other sides is being overestimated...compared to ours.....

We are going better then a few other teams due to one player we recruited almost a decade ago . We’ve seen what happens when he’s out injured . I’d say our recruitment has been bog average .

 

[Jake the snake]

Btw - I love Mitchell Moses, and I'm glad he's an Eel.

But time, and time again, we've relied on him to ice a game, and his record in doing so is 50-50, at best.

It's frustrating that we can't call on the game's highest-paid player (allegedly) to dominate when we need him to.

I'm so jealous of watching Nathan Cleary effortlessly kick a 40m field goal with no time left on the clock to tie a game, or kick a 40/20 and then immediately set up a try to dominate a Grand Final...

Mitchell Moses is supremely talented, but he's not what I would call a consistently clutch player.

To be honest he did ice the game. However, we could not cover the short kick off after we hit the lead and we had a an idiot ref. And I never blame refs.

 

[Eelementary]

To be honest he did ice the game. However, we could not cover the short kick off after we hit the lead and we had a an idiot ref. And I never blame refs.

True.

But I'm less than impressed with him not demanding the ball ahead of that bum, Pezet, more often in the first half, when we were 10-nil up.

He allowed Pezet to keep making poor choices, and as senior leader in the side, I would expect him to pull him aside, say "This isn't working - give me the ball," and lead by example.

Oh, well.

It is, what it is.

 

[Jake the snake]

True.

But I'm less than impressed with him not demanding the ball ahead of that bum, Pezet, more often in the first half, when we were 10-nil up.

He allowed Pezet to keep making poor choices, and as senior leader in the side, I would expect him to pull him aside, say "This isn't working - give me the ball," and lead by example.

Oh, well.

It is, what it is.

I agree, I’ve been saying before Pezet came that he was a dud. He’s totally shit. Never saw the what everyone was saying about him at Melbourne. I think Moses is under instructions to let Pezet take some of the responsibility.

IMO, the reeeve grader Volkman will do a better job. Pezet should never see first grade again at this club.

 

[eels_fan]

IMO, the reeeve grader Volkman will do a better job. Pezet should never see first grade again at this club.

Agree with the exception of when Moses is out during Origin or from injury - I'm fine with Pezet at 7, but he's not a 6 sharing responsibility with Moses because then he tries stupid shit like tackle 2 kicks to get his name in lights rather than just doing his job

 

[Jake the snake]

Continuing with Pezet after his injury would be moronic. We need to prepare for next year. Volkman let’s see how he goes. Lorenzo from what I saw, and I haven’t see all that much is that he’s got a good running game but passing was limited. Maybe he’s improved I don’t know. Haven’t seen much of his defence either, maybe Someone here can give us an update on his overall game

we saw the impact of twidle. Young blood and hungry. We need more of this.

all I know is that Pezet is a dud so let’s not help the broncos.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Moses should be a floating 6 who kicks.

He already is. He also played this role often when Drown was here. With his size/strength Drown was better at running through the middle, which includes digging in to give Moses more space.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yet, we are on 2 wins with 4 other sides and going better then 4 other sides on 1 or less wins......and we could have easily been on 3 wins....and that's with our injuries list and tough draw to start the season...

while I agree, we have some way to go to be genuine fringe final contenders this year, I think the perception of the form of some other sides is being overestimated...compared to ours.....

Exactly. The grass is always greener. I think we are absolutely a finals contender at full strength. Unfortunately we have the highest injury toll in the NRL, with several of those gone for the year. Any team forced to play this many backups will perform worse. It doesn’t mean the backups are worse than the merkins at other clubs. Backups generally suck which is why they’re backups.

 

[Eelementary]

I agree, I’ve been saying before Pezet came that he was a dud. He’s totally shit. Never saw the what everyone was saying about him at Melbourne. I think Moses is under instructions to let Pezet take some of the responsibility.

IMO, the reeeve grader Volkman will do a better job. Pezet should never see first grade again at this club.

If only!

The good thing is I have it on pretty good authority that Ryles is a bit of a fan of Talataina's, so we should hopefully see some results there.

 

[TheParraboy]

I agree, I’ve been saying before Pezet came that he was a dud. He’s totally shit. Never saw the what everyone was saying about him at Melbourne. I think Moses is under instructions to let Pezet take some of the responsibility.

IMO, the reeeve grader Volkman will do a better job. Pezet should never see first grade again at this club.

Same,

Add also that this one year option is a fail. Retain Hawkins for another year would have been fair better

Volkman goes ok, cant pick Pezet back.

When Mitch is in Origin and we are down on troops is the only time Pezet should in the side, though that might be a good time to give Lorenzo some exposure to 1st grade

 

[JokerEel]

Imagine the whinge from Anasta if Pezet is stuck in cup...

 

[Parrapat]

Very true. Let's not try and set up a Round 1 rivalry with them, for the sake of getting beaten each year.

Pick one of the new teams (Dolphins, Perth, PNG) and we can become their Round 1 bogey team instead.

100% agree with both of you.

 

[TheParraboy]

Imagine the whinge from Anasta if Pezet is stuck in cup...

Be almost be worth hanging onto my foxsports subscription..