Brisbane3 - What is needed to make it a successful bid?

[SirPies&Beers]

Whatever happened to the Brisbane Bombers bid?

Merged with Jets bid

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Have to remember nrl reamains a largely conservative decision maker When it comes to expansion.
PNG zero risk due to govt funding,
perth a sydney club brand revival with govt backing reducing any perceived risk.
Best hope for NZ2 is either nztv making it a condition of a bigger future deal or nz govt or private backers coming up with $100mill cash for it. otherwise they’ll likely go with the safer option, sadly.

Perth a non RL market that has previously failed
Papua a third world country by all metrics.

even with funding they are still risks and far from conservative. What are you on about? Lol


perthwrongs, ding dong
Still hating on Brisbane and Sydney who are the reason WA RL will even be in the realm of competitive. Shit take from the moronic poster yet again.

Perthwrongs, ding dong

 

[BuffaloRules]

Whatever happened to the Brisbane Bombers bid?

The team elected to remain in Essendon

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Giant awakes: CQ NRL bid stakes expansion claim

The Central Queensland NRL bid is ready to ramp up its push to be the 20th NRL team with financial clout and a bedrock rugby league case as foundations.

au.news.yahoo.com

 

[SirPies&Beers]

“Need to fight our enemy”: Why Richo is for a third Brisbane side

“We've also got to be in an area which we need to actually fight our enemy."

www.sen.com.au

“Need to fight our enemy”: Why Richo is for a third Brisbane side​

Former Wests Tigers and South Sydney CEO Shane Richardson has reiterated his support for a 20th team, believing that Queensland deserves a fifth side.
Since 2023, the NRL has accelerated the growth of the competition, having added the Dolphins alongside future expansion with the Perth Bears (in 2027) and the PNG Chiefs (in 2028) to see 19 teams in the league.

With the odd number of teams, it has resulted in plenty of speculation on the need for a 20th team.
The main query surrounding further expansion has been whether there is enough talent/players to support its growth.
But the former NRL strategy boss is confident there wouldn’t be any problems in covering the gap.

“Well, the game's ready now for a 20th (team),” Richardson said on SEN’s Front Office with Vossy.
“If you're going (to) do 18 and 19, I mean, the argument is there enough players, etc?
“But the bottom line is with the expansion to Perth, and that's gonna be hard for the players there. Papua New Guinea is obviously gonna be hard to attract players.
“The government is funding that, and the NRL at the moment are funding Perth.

“So, at the end of the day, I don't think there's any problem.”
Another question surrounding a proposed 20th side is where it would be located.
One of the popular considerations for the new side is for a second side in New Zealand, which would be based in the South Island.

“The thing with the 20th team, though, it's got (to) fund itself,” he continued.
“It can't be a situation where we've got to put more money in to expand because that's what we're doing at the moment.
“We've also got to be in an area (where) we need to actually fight our enemy. The only enemy we've got in Australia is the AFL.
“They've moved to the west of Brisbane for a reason.
“It's the largest growth area of population in Australia. It's full of young sportsmen all the way through; it's a historic Rugby League area that's now been taken over by the AFL, who've based themselves out there.
“And it's desperately in need of a promotion through that magnificent area through Logan, through Ipswich, and to Toowoomba.
“So, to me, it's a no-brainer.”
But a push for a side in Brisbane’s west has been regathered pace in recent weeks, with Richardson noting the importance of having an NRL team there, considering the AFL’s push into the area with the Brisbane Lions building their training base in Springfield (20km from Ipswich).

 

[Thatwasnthighref]

Best hope for NZ2 is either nztv making it a condition of a bigger future deal or nz govt or private backers coming up with $100mill cash for it. otherwise they’ll likely go with the safer option, sadly.

Long shot on all those things unfortunately.

Only hope is that PVL/Abdo attend the Wahs v Cows game in CHCH and get caught up in the vibe of the new stadium and how it presents on TV. Otherwise NZ2's best opportunity in the next decade or more may have passed it by.

I posted a while ago that greed and ego might hurt NZ2s chances. Too many snouts in the trough meant multiple bids that were invariably going to be weaker than a consolidated effort that brought all potential investors under the same roof.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Long shot on all those things unfortunately.

Only hope is that PVL/Abdo attend the Wahs v Cows game in CHCH and get caught up in the vibe of the new stadium and how it presents on TV. Otherwise NZ2's best opportunity in the next decade or more may have passed it by.

I posted a while ago that greed and ego might hurt NZ2s chances. Too many snouts in the trough meant multiple bids that were invariably going to be weaker than a consolidated effort that brought all potential investors under the same roof.

the moment perthwrongs said this ippy bid wasnt much of a chance, it the became red hot favourites. that bloke is so wrong on so many things with anything rugby league related that he literally changes perception to ensure people bet against his takes, as his takes have an almost 0% accuracy rate. this isnt hyperbole this is truth.

its mind boggling.

 

[Colk]

Long shot on all those things unfortunately.

Only hope is that PVL/Abdo attend the Wahs v Cows game in CHCH and get caught up in the vibe of the new stadium and how it presents on TV. Otherwise NZ2's best opportunity in the next decade or more may have passed it by.

I posted a while ago that greed and ego might hurt NZ2s chances. Too many snouts in the trough meant multiple bids that were invariably going to be weaker than a consolidated effort that brought all potential investors under the same roof.

I wouldn’t give up on the hope for a second Kiwi side completely. It’s inevitable that a few clubs will fall by the wayside as more teams come in.

 

[BuffaloRules]

the moment perthwrongs said this ippy bid wasnt much of a chance, it the became red hot favourites. that bloke is so wrong on so many things with anything rugby league related that he literally changes perception to ensure people bet against his takes, as his takes have an almost 0% accuracy rate. this isnt hyperbole this is truth.

its mind boggling.

take him to the casino and bet the opposite to him red/black … make a fortune !

 

[Thatwasnthighref]

I wouldn’t give up on the hope for a second Kiwi side completely. It’s inevitable that a few clubs will fall by the wayside as more teams come in.

Yea could do. Be a shyte way to enter the comp if it was at the expense of another fanbase though.

But even if NZ2 goes on the long term backburner, hopefully that doesn't preclude the NRL supporting local pathway development.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Yea could do. Be a shyte way to enter the comp if it was at the expense of another fanbase though.

But even if NZ2 goes on the long term backburner, hopefully that doesn't preclude the NRL supporting local pathway deve

it’s very difficult for any club to fall over these days … the NRL funds the salary cap and plenty more … wouldn’t say it’s impossible, but management incompetence would need to be high

The pathways in NZ is the thing that disturbs me the most if they miss out .. the NRL really need a plan here

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Yea could do. Be a shyte way to enter the comp if it was at the expense of another fanbase though.

But even if NZ2 goes on the long term backburner, hopefully that doesn't preclude the NRL supporting local pathway development.

100% there will be more academies etc set up in nz.
warriors should have shored up home instead of heading to logan, qld for a pathways academy. the moment they did that i think it raised some eye brows. like we get it, plenty talent there in logan/south qld but one imagines just as much in entire nz compared to one city.. just seemed odd and i get the chat that aussie clubs set up shop in nz and scout etc. so warriors are entitled to set up shop in aus and do the same. thats 100% true, no argument there.

just strange though. setting up shop in seqld should have been a long term thing after all or very least majority of nz rl pathways are streamlined. doing it now is kinda conceding that the base in seqld is prime and doesnt need as much work. which is true to be honest but still.

 

[Colk]

Yea could do. Be a shyte way to enter the comp if it was at the expense of another fanbase though.

But even if NZ2 goes on the long term backburner, hopefully that doesn't preclude the NRL supporting local pathway development.

It is what it is. The competition can’t really sustain the amount of teams they already have. The competition is so lopsided that teams at the bottom will eventually drop off.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

It is what it is. The competition can’t really sustain the amount of teams they already have. The competition is so lopsided that teams at the bottom will eventually drop off.

take panthers and dragons out (opposite ends) and the comp is actually closer than people give credit for.
titans been in contests (outside round 1), manly improved, cows improved.

no panthers killing it, no dragons stinking it from equation and theres bugger all splitting the teams really. just moments in games that get the W or L.

 

[Colk]

take panthers and dragons out (opposite ends) and the comp is actually closer than people give credit for.
titans been in contests (outside round 1), manly improved, cows improved.

no panthers killing it, no dragons stinking it from equation and theres bugger all splitting the teams really. just moments in games that get the W or L.

There just isn’t enough players for the amount of teams that we have. Strip it back to 10 to 12.

 

[Colk]

take panthers and dragons out (opposite ends) and the comp is actually closer than people give credit for.
titans been in contests (outside round 1), manly improved, cows improved.

no panthers killing it, no dragons stinking it from equation and theres bugger all splitting the teams really. just moments in games that get the W or L.

Also 32-0, 52-18 and 50-10 aren’t close

 

[mongoose]

There just isn’t enough players for the amount of teams that we have. Strip it back to 10 to 12.

that is never going to happen, 10 teams? c'mon

content is king - "quality" is subjective as well.

 

[BuffaloRules]

100% there will be more academies etc set up in nz.
warriors should have shored up home instead of heading to logan, qld for a pathways academy. the moment they did that i think it raised some eye brows. like we get it, plenty talent there in logan/south qld but one imagines just as much in entire nz compared to one city.. just seemed odd and i get the chat that aussie clubs set up shop in nz and scout etc. so warriors are entitled to set up shop in aus and do the same. thats 100% true, no argument there.

just strange though. setting up shop in seqld should have been a long term thing after all or very least majority of nz rl pathways are streamlined. doing it now is kinda conceding that the base in seqld is prime and doesnt need as much work. which is true to be honest but still.

According to George … the Logan council approached them … why would they turn it down ? Seems a no brainer for them … but they need to be doing plenty in NZ too instead of whinging about another team

Warriors announce pathways prorgram with Logan City Council

“If we can get two or three footy players out of there a year, then that’s great."

sen.com.au

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Also 32-0, 52-18 and 50-10 aren’t close

souths got belted by 50 points 2 weeks out of 3 week period in 2021 and still finished top 4 and made a gf.
every year teams have off games or periods. on their day any team can beat another.

tigers in 2023 hadnt won a game, faced a full strength panthers and beat them.... teams are better in 2026 overall.

 

[Colk]

souths got belted by 50 points 2 weeks out of 3 week period in 2021 and still finished top 4 and made a gf.
every year teams have off games or periods. on their day any team can beat another.

tigers in 2023 hadnt won a game, faced a full strength panthers and beat them.... teams are better in 2026 overall.

Any team on their day simply can’t beat one another so that’s false

Teams aren’t better in 2026 overall. If that were the case, we wouldn’t be seeing those scorelines every week.

What invariably happens with expansion looking at data from other competitions is that the top remain at the top for a lot longer while the bottom remain locked down there for a lot longer. The difference between the top and bottom increases, it doesn’t decrease. Look at RL from about the mid 90’s to the cull of the late 90’s.