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Sack Flanagan

I'm Hornby

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Time to move on from Floppocan't, it didn't take Webster all that long to get the Warriors firing, I actually think in his first year they made the top 8.
Two seasons and 5 rounds is about the lifespan of a any flop.
Webster sure did, first year in charge they came 4th and made the prelims after finishing second last the year before.
 

SEAT 1A

Bench
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He's digging his own grave by continuing lay blame on individuals. If he is backing the current squad, who are kicking stones why lay blame.

If he really thinks he's the best man for the job, don't blurt out there no other player options in reggies when they are coming second one point from first if he may well coach them next year.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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Flanno is either not watching the juniors play or just disrespecting them when he says he has nobody to replace the NRL squad with. The halves are that bad yet he is telling us that the guys underneath are worse hence why he has to by force keep my son Kyle in his favourite position.

Then blames Hunt leaving and no plan B. Well, Kyle was obviously his plan B all along and it has gone to $shite so is blaming everyone and anyone in the process.

If his comments have not ruffled a lot of feathers within the club and playing group then I would be shocked. The bye cannot come quick enough as we are all hoping change will come then. The NRL should seriously not allow Saints to get 2 points. The don't deserve it.

Another point, if Saints beat Parra (which the should of if not for the ineffective halves), then Parra would be last. And people here are saying Ryles is a super coach. Looks like Saints were screwed either way if they brought in Ryles or Flanno. Saints picked the better of the 2 $hite coaches.
 
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Flanno is either not watching the juniors play or just disrespecting them when he says he has nobody to replace the NRL squad with. The halves are that bad yet he is telling us that the guys underneath are worse hence why he has to by force keep my son Kyle in his favourite position.

Then blames Hunt leaving and no plan B. Well, Kyle was obviously his plan B all along and it has gone to $shite so is blaming everyone and anyone in the process.

If his comments have not ruffled a lot of feathers within the club and playing group then I would be shocked. The bye cannot come quick enough as we are all hoping change will come then. The NRL should seriously not allow Saints to get 2 points. The don't deserve it.

Another point, if Saints beat Parra (which the should of if not for the ineffective halves), then Parra would be last. And people here are saying Ryles is a super coach. Looks like Saints were screwed either way if they brought in Ryles or Flanno. Saints picked the better of the 2 $hite coaches.
Kyle was Plan A. Hunt leaving just allowed for it.
 
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I think this story is symptomatic of the problems at the dragons and Flanagan's unwillingness to integrate young players into the first grade squad -


Not saying necessarily he should be in first grade, but when you apparently can't get an answer from the coach as to what you have to do (as in improve on) to make it to first grade, to me, that's damning.
 
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I think this story is symptomatic of the problems at the dragons and Flanagan's unwillingness to integrate young players into the first grade squad -


Not saying necessarily he should be in first grade, but when you apparently can't get an answer from the coach as to what you have to do (as in improve on) to make it to first grade, to me, that's damning.
It was a common complaint during the Hook era as well. Is it just our coaches or is it an ingrained part of the club's philosophy?
 
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The Dragons have denied the release request according to the Sydney Morning Herald.

The following article it just published (source: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/un...ng-gun-s-release-request-20260415-p5znzk.html) makes for interesting reading as its author claims he saw the wording of the release request and quotes it in his article -

‘Untenable’: War of words erupts after Dragons deny young gun’s release request​

Adrian Proszenko

Adrian Proszenko
April 15, 2026 — 8:53am

St George Illawarra has knocked back a request from Loko Pasifiki Tonga to explore his options despite the club’s “confusing” and “demoralising” decision to continue snubbing the promising prospect.

Tonga is contracted until the end of next season, but is frustrated he hasn’t been able to add to his 10 first-grade appearances so far this year. Despite being winless, the Dragons continue to overlook the Australian Schoolboys and the NSW under-19s State of Origin representative, prompting him to want to explore opportunities elsewhere.

This masthead has obtained a copy of the written request Tonga’s manager, Craig Clifton, sent to the Red V.

“This request is not made lightly,” Clifton wrote to chief operating officer Ben Creagh and football manager Ben Haran on Tuesday afternoon.

“However, following extensive discussions with Loko regarding his current standing within the club and his future career trajectory, it has become evident that his continued tenure at the Dragons is no longer tenable or beneficial for either party.

“Loko has expressed deep and growing frustration regarding his lack of selection in first grade this season. Despite his undeniable potential and proven capabilities, he has not been afforded a genuine opportunity to build upon the 10 NRL appearances he made in 2025.

“As a 20-year-old prop forward who has already represented the Australian Schoolboys and the NSW under-19s State of Origin team, consistent first-grade football is critical for his development.”

Clifton said Tonga’s frustration was compounded by “exceptional” performance in reserve grade, that warranted NRL selection, and that his average of 179.3 run metres per game put him on par with some of the league’s best forwards.

“His dominance was most recently highlighted in round 6 against the Sea Eagles, where he scored a try and amassed a staggering game-high 252 run metres— – nearly 100 metres more than any other player on the field. Despite these commanding performances and his near 98 per cent tackle efficiency in the NRL last year, he remains overlooked for first-grade selection.”

Clifton said Tonga had mixed support from coaching staff, with some holding reservations while others were very supportive of him.

“This becomes confusing and somewhat demoralising and it appears to some he does not feature in the club’s long-term strategic plans for first grade. While we appreciate the candour, it reinforces our position that Loko is currently in an environment where he is neither valued nor viewed as a genuine first-grade prospect.

“Staying at a club where his pathway is blocked and his contributions are undervalued is detrimental to Loko’s development and mental wellbeing. He requires an environment that believes in his ability and is willing to invest in his growth by providing consistent NRL opportunities.

“From the club’s perspective, granting permission to negotiate and subsequently facilitating a release will free up valuable salary cap space and a Top 30 roster spot for the 2026 and 2027 seasons, allowing you to recruit players who better align with the club’s vision for the squad.

“We respectfully request that the club grant Loko permission to speak with other NRL clubs immediately on compassionate and professional grounds, allowing him to explore opportunities with a club that will provide him with the first-grade pathway his form demands …”

Creagh responded in writing, assuring Clifton that Tonga was a valued member of the club and denying the release request. That prompted further correspondence from Clifton, who doubled down on a release request after labelling the situation “untenable”.

“While I note your written assurances that the Dragons hold Loko in high regard and see a genuine pathway for him, the reality of his situation at the club directly contradicts these sentiments,” Clifton wrote.

“Words mean very little when they are not supported by action.”

Clifton said no one at the club had spoken to Tonga about his concerns in the week since they were first raised, and that “this deafening silence speaks volumes about where he actually sits in the club’s priorities.”

“Furthermore, your assertion that he has a genuine pathway is entirely undermined by the public comments made by your head coach. Following the team’s recent loss, Shane Flanagan publicly stated regarding squad changes: ‘If I had someone that was better out of the side, I would put them in, trust me.’”

Clifton said Flanagan’s comments were a clear and public declaration that Tonga was not viewed as a first-grade option by the man picking the team.

“You cannot tell us privately that he is a valued part of your future while the head coach states publicly that he has no better options to call upon. The contradiction is glaring, and it is entirely unfair to expect a 20-year-old player of Loko’s calibre to languish in an environment where his pathway is so clearly blocked.

“Our position has not changed. The current situation is untenable and detrimental to Loko’s career. We are formally reiterating our demand for immediate permission for Loko to speak and negotiate with other NRL clubs.

“We expect a prompt and realistic resolution to this matter.”

The flashpoint between the bottom-placed club and one of its most promising stars comes just days after Maroons forward Jaydn Su’A opted not to take up an extension option, to instead link with Parramatta from next season. The Eels want Su’A to join immediately if the Dragons allow a release.

The Dragons have been contacted for comment.
 

JubileeJeffro

Juniors
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It is another of those scratch your head moments of this year… why are we using Blake Lawrie and Emre Guler when we have this kid who did well last year.
Sure lawrie looks fitter, but he is not part of the plans beyond 2026… so why limit the development of big Loko.
…who’s next Halangahu?
This club is making it untenable for me to support them moving forward… I am closely monitoring this situation.
 

Flinstone

Juniors
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The Dragons have denied the release request according to the Sydney Morning Herald.

The following article it just published (source: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/un...ng-gun-s-release-request-20260415-p5znzk.html) makes for interesting reading as its author claims he saw the wording of the release request and quotes it in his article -
Would of been good to see what Creagh said in response.
I don't blame him, I don't understand what Flanno is doing either.
Just put Loko in that's all he wants.
 

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