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You seem threatend by Karl's supporters and what he is doing.

Maybe do yourself a favour and see the video i just posted about what the True Australia used to look like.

Not the woke nonsense you and your cronies are turning it into.
I agree with the sentiment of the vid but found it strange at first that the Torana morphed into a Falcon.
Then I realised why. For the rolling burnout footage. A Torry could never do that.
 
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Christians say the Bible is historically irrefutable. Muslims say the Quran is perfect. Jews say the Torah is the true record of God’s covenant. Hindus have vast mythological histories tied to place and lineage.

Each group uses the same argument. You don't see it because that's your truth.

As an outsider, I see that many people offer their truth. You all can't be right.

You think that you are defending history, but really, you are defending your identity.
“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” – Exodus 20:3
That implies there is more than 1 god.


“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.” – Matthew 6:24

Who's your master?

“Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly, as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit.” – Colossians 3:16

You might be a Christian in denial.
 

Gronk

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“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” – Exodus 20:3
That implies there is more than 1 god.


“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.” – Matthew 6:24

Who's your master?

“Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly, as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit.” – Colossians 3:16

You might be a Christian in denial.

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TheParraboy

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New Atheism died 10 years ago. He's great in his field of work but when it comes to theology he has been dismantled time and time again. I wouldn't go to a preist for biology, I wouldn't go to Dawkins for theology and certainly not Gronk for History.

Is he condemned to hell, like Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Hawkins?
 

Gronk

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New Atheism died 10 years ago. He's great in his field of work but when it comes to theology he has been dismantled time and time again. I wouldn't go to a preist for biology, I wouldn't go to Dawkins for theology and certainly not Gronk for History.
Hey, I am no historian. I am very happy to leave it to the experts, archaeologists etc who practice their profession without any motivated reasoning*.

* when you begin with the conclusion you want and then search backwards for evidence, or logic that justify it.
 

Snoochies

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Hey, I am no historian. I am very happy to leave it to the experts, archaeologists etc who practice their profession without any motivated reasoning*.

* when you begin with the conclusion you want and then search backwards for evidence, or logic that justify it.
Hmmm, how have I done that? We agree Jerusalem fell to the Romans 70ad, we know historically Christians fled prior, just have to think logically if there may be something prior to that that may have given them a heads up maybe? If only we had some idea what was happening?
Or, happy to hear alternative theories but again, history show this happened, why?
 

Gronk

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Hmmm, how have I done that? We agree Jerusalem fell to the Romans 70ad, we know historically Christians fled prior, just have to think logically if there may be something prior to that that may have given them a heads up maybe? If only we had some idea what was happening?
Or, happy to hear alternative theories but again, history show this happened, why?

I don't think you are in the expert profession category that I referred to, so unsure why you responded in that manner.
 
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Stick to the topic, you replied to a post about door knocking, there was a claim evangelicals door knock, I said it's JW's and Mormons that door knock then you go and flip the subject again.
Oh dear.

I posted - not in a reply, but as a self-standing post - a graph showing how Evangelicals haven't come out of the dark ages around respecting sexuality, in the way that other Christian groupings have.

I can talk on both topics, and prove you wrong - but don't try and attempt to combine the topics as one, and then argue that talking about either part is flipping in an attempt to escape the obvious.

1. Evangelicals are the slowest Christian group in moving out of the dark ages.

2. Evangelical Christians also evangelise - including through door knocking and other cold approaches - because for some reason they believe everyone should have the same beliefs they hold (hence the term "evangelicals").
 

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Oh dear.

I posted - not in a reply, but as a self-standing post - a graph showing how Evangelicals haven't come out of the dark ages around respecting sexuality, in the way that other Christian groupings have.

I can talk on both topics, and prove you wrong - but don't try and attempt to combine the topics as one, and then argue that talking about either part is flipping in an attempt to escape the obvious.

1. Evangelicals are the slowest Christian group in moving out of the dark ages.

2. Evangelical Christians also evangelise - including through door knocking and other cold approaches - because for some reason they believe everyone should have the same beliefs they hold (hence the term "evangelicals").
Mate, the topic went onto talking about door knockers and you replied to my comment about door knockers and then you claim I'm claiming Christians don't evangelise?? It was completely off topic of what we were talking about. I replied to your graph, then the topic went on about someone watching midget porn and I claimed only JW's and Mormons door knock then you come in with a straw man.

We can certainly go back on topic but you may want to go and reply to what I have already said on the topic. If you want I'll repeat it. Majority of Christians do not care what others do in the bedroom. Christians may think something is wrong so they simply don't do the thing they think is wrong. Will some act crazy, sure they do, is that majority, no.
There is also another religion whom in my opinion is a lot more oppressive to gay rights, women and their own prophet married a 9 year old girl but we'll just target the evangelicals and cheer on that one which seems very ironic.
I disagree with evengelical christianity on a lot of things and you're targeting one small part which is mainly based in America and see Trump as the second coming of John the Baptist.

Happy to proceed sir, just promise you'll stick to the topic and not jump around creating straw men and shifting goal posts.
 

Soren Lorenson

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Mate, the topic went onto talking about door knockers and you replied to my comment about door knockers and then you claim I'm claiming Christians don't evangelise?? It was completely off topic of what we were talking about. I replied to your graph, then the topic went on about someone watching midget porn and I claimed only JW's and Mormons door knock then you come in with a straw man.

We can certainly go back on topic but you may want to go and reply to what I have already said on the topic. If you want I'll repeat it. Majority of Christians do not care what others do in the bedroom. Christians may think something is wrong so they simply don't do the thing they think is wrong. Will some act crazy, sure they do, is that majority, no.
There is also another religion whom in my opinion is a lot more oppressive to gay rights, women and their own prophet married a 9 year old girl but we'll just target the evangelicals and cheer on that one which seems very ironic.
I disagree with evengelical christianity on a lot of things and you're targeting one small part which is mainly based in America and see Trump as the second coming of John the Baptist.

Happy to proceed sir, just promise you'll stick to the topic and not jump around creating straw men and shifting goal posts.
You're doing God's work in this thread Snooch. Literally.
 
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