Can RL take over from RU in NZ?

[Polynesian Warrior]

exactly.

all these union fans must be spewing watching the S14 dieing whilst RL goes from strength to strength

Im happy watching S14 and rugby union internationals Are you happy with yours ?

 

[Cheezel]

I thought you were a rugby league fan . Check the teams that played in the tri-nations in the uk tour UK in the last couple of years and tell me if they were the best team Australia had ..

Irish Warrior you are digging your own whole here. For the Tri-Nations, Australia has sent their best team and so has New Zealand and to my knowledge so have the poms. (Maybe a pommy poster can confirm )

Check how many players pullout for personal reasons and clubs pull them out bot the Kiwi's and Kangaroo's . Im not talking about the two players Im talking about how long has the Kiwi's been denied players from Superleague to play in the test matches ...

Warrior they call it injuries, I am sure Union player get injuries aswell?

What makes you think this Hong Kong test match is a one off ? It might not work for rugby league in the states but Im sure there are fans of both the Wallabies and All Blacks living in Asia who would love to watch them and buy merchandise etc . Its a marketing brilliance ....

Just like the State of Origin in the US with all the Aussie and expats. As I said build from the ground up or risk wasting money that would be better spent somewhere else. But Good Luck with Hong Kong.

It might have lost ground to league but it still sports that thousands of kids and adults love and that what counts .
AFL is a national competition in Australia and the Lions have done well in the last couple of years and to their credits its on free to air .
Now that they are not doing well their tv ratings have drop . The Reds on the other hand are a pathetic lot and needs to win and do well . Its start at the top and the Reds fail big time .....

Agree totally

The NZRL lost 1.7 Million and ARU lost 14 Million = NZRL Big 0 and ARU = Millions & Millions . Whats the point . We know most of that is from the ARC . The more money you lose . The better you are at planning ahead so it doesn't happen again . Im sure the Warriors, Storms, Newcastle and other NRL clubs would be or have been planning ahead in the past .

Yes 8 Million from the ARC and 6 Million from general ARU operating expenses that includes Super 14's. So now your comparing Rugby League clubs to the ARU :? So really you want to compare the NZRU to the NZRL and the ARU to the ARL/NRL

As you can see Warrior only the ARL/NRL made money :shock: The NZRL will make money this year as they depend on internationals for ongoing revenue. Lucky for the NZRL the world cup is on. On the other hand the NZRU is in deep :x with the Super 14's losing Money and the RWC predicted to put them 30 Million in dept life is not looking so good for the NZRU.

Just look at the damage the Super League war did to League. It has really only just recovered in the last few years. That's about 10 years in the widerness.

This is what the ARU & NZRU have to look forward to if things go pair shaped and John O'Neill's pulls a Gerbil instead of a rabbit out of his hat in the next few years.

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

A) If you actually lived here (which I seriously doubt) you wouldn't be talking so much bullsh*t.
B) I'm still waiting for stats showing union's growth in Queensland. Take your time champ.

The QRU have said that players paticipation numbers are up . Is that good enough or you want me to count them all ?

C) The schools that I mentioned changing from union to league (and those dropping the union team) are catholic high schools in Brisbane's southside/logan/the redlands.

As far Im concern The GPS, AIC and TAS rugby schools are still there . Unless there is another school rugby union competition going around that we in Brisbane aren't aware of then I guess you can explain to us . Logan, now there's a rugby league area with heaps of Pacific Islands kids and rugby league schools .
Unfortunately the same rugby league schools took up rugby union as well with the help of the Polynesian kids and their parents . The result was league schools like Marsden SHS and St Francis College winning the Ballymore Cup since it started in 1999 .
It started in 1999 with only a handful of schools and by 2004 there were 91 schools from North Queensland, South Queensland and Metropolitan schools all vying for a Super 8 place at Ballymore.
Am I lying here too ?

t must be tough for you to be following a sport that's dying while a sport you seemingly hate is experiencing a renaissance. ;-)

It must be easy for you to think that rugby union is dying . Its like a pain killer . But it must be hard when you know internationally rugby union is still bigger than your sport . But hey, I like both and soccer, volleyball and basketball . So I must be the lucky one here .

 

[Cheezel]

Thats what happen when you have three countries running the S14 and can't agree together but I sure in the future there will a S14 Board running the show on their own .


Sorry to burst your bubbles but the ARU and the French also were expecting to lose millions hosting the RWC but it was far from it . The Auckland City Council and New Zealand goverment will come in to help just like the Federal Australia goverment and NSW did in 2003 . NZRU knew what the risks were hosting the RWC and knew they didn't have the big stadiums and so on . But hey, look in the bright side . The NZ goverment will update and help built the rugby stadiums which are all due for work . And it just go to show that the RWC is now not just any tournament taken for granted . As for the NZRU and 30 million dollars . Well the their sponsor with Adidas is worth 100 milliom (I think) . In sure the IRB will get over millions and millions from RWC to help fund rugby around the globe .

It's okay Warrior you can burst my bubbles if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside :lol:

I am just backing up my argument with articles. What are you backing yours up with? Burst my bubbles by all means but back it up with something :sarcasm:

I hope for the sake of Rugby Union in New Zealand that the IRB does not push all the profits up to the Northern Hemiphere nations which seem to be getting a tighter grip on the SANZA partnership as the days roll on. The ARU rolled in the cash in 2003 but 5 years later they are living on the edge. So as you can see money can't buy happiness NZ has a much smaller population and infrastructure then France and Australia. That's why they were keen for a 16 team comp. The extra 4 teams might be why the 30 Million loss figure is being thrown around. The NZ time Zone can't help to much as well.

 

[dallymessenger]

A) If you actually lived here (which I seriously doubt) you wouldn't be talking so much bullsh*t.
B) I'm still waiting for stats showing union's growth in Queensland. Take your time champ.

The QRU have said that players paticipation numbers are up . Is that good enough or you want me to count them all ?



As far Im concern The GPS, AIC and TAS rugby schools are still there . Unless there is another school rugby union competition going around that we in Brisbane aren't aware of then I guess you can explain to us . Logan, now there's a rugby league area with heaps of Pacific Islands kids and rugby league schools .
Unfortunately the same rugby league schools took up rugby union as well with the help of the Polynesian kids and their parents . The result was league schools like Marsden SHS and St Francis College winning the Ballymore Cup since it started in 1999 .
It started in 1999 with only a handful of schools and by 2004 there were 91 schools from North Queensland, South Queensland and Metropolitan schools all vying for a Super 8 place at Ballymore.
Am I lying here too ?





It must be easy for you to think that rugby union is dying . Its like a pain killer . But it must be hard when you know internationally rugby union is still bigger than your sport . But hey, I like both and soccer, volleyball and basketball . So I must be the lucky one here .

this guy deadseat is almost at dumb as eli.

earlier on he said hes been around for quite a while and seen all this stuff before, and more or less implied this whole debate was a waste of time.

time and again he keeps adding posts which makes no sesne.

looks like all those years of arguing that union was going well have taught him nothing. for as long as this guy has been around apparently union has been declining.

keep up the good work, its hilarious.
:lol::lol:

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

Irish Warrior you are digging your own whole here. For the Tri-Nations, Australia has sent their best team and so has New Zealand and to my knowledge so have the poms. (Maybe a pommy poster can confirm )


Warrior they call it injuries, I am sure Union player get injuries aswell?

Cheese, If you seach through this forum you might find that there are alot of post about this subject at how upset everyone was that the Kangaroo's were taking their second and third string team after alot of the first string players pull out and made themselves unavailable for personal reasons .

Just like the State of Origin in the US with all the Aussie and expats. As I said build from the ground up or risk wasting money that would be better spent somewhere else. But Good Luck with Hong Kong.

I think I'll listern to the NZRU on this one . I think they would made alot more money from playing in Hong Kong in front of a full house than not playing at all . Its not a risk . Why would they be spending money in Hong Kong when they are going there to make money ? You have to make money for it to spend . Agreee !

Yes 8 Million from the ARC and 6 Million from general ARU operating expenses that includes Super 14's. So now your comparing Rugby League clubs to the ARU :? So really you want to compare the NZRU to the NZRL and the ARU to the ARL/NRL

Like I say before the ARC was the main culprit and then it was the RWC year where the Wallabies played less test and didn't tour the NH where they share the gates . But Im sure you must have had amnesia on that one or do you just come out every time they declare a loss ? I wonder what you will be saying if they make a profit this year ?

As you can see Warrior only the ARL/NRL made money :shock: The NZRL will make money this year as they depend on internationals for ongoing revenue. Lucky for the NZRL the world cup is on. On the other hand the NZRU is in deep :x with the Super 14's losing Money and the RWC predicted to put them 30 Million in dept life is not looking so good for the NZRU.

Do the NRL make ? Im sure I read somewhere that after news Lmt take their share, funding given out to other organisation, salary cap to each NRL team and the expenses of running the NRL . There's shi* all left in the end of the day . So Mr Genius where does the NRL makes its money from apart from sponsors, tab, tv money, internet ?

Its very unhealthy to depend on pocket TV money year after year like the NZRL does.
It just have enough to get by every year because they either be playing one test , two test or none at all .:lol: New Zealand rugby union will not lose 30million dollars like you hope it would . The expensive RWC tickets would make sure of that . You wanna have a bet on that ?

 

[Cheezel]

But it must be hard when you know internationally rugby union is still bigger than your sport . But hey, I like both and soccer, volleyball and basketball . So I must be the lucky one here .

Warrior, I think everybody knows that Union is played in more nations then league. But league has everything to gain and Union everything to lose. Union really can't expand to any more nations.

According to the IRB website Rugby has close to 100 test nations :lol:. Considering that the Portugal team in the 2007 World Cup was the equivalent of the lebanon Team in the 2000 RLWC. Rugby has much work to do with teams outside the top ten.

League is not trying to take over the World but is looking to improve current League Nations like France and Wales so that their is more competition at the top level.

I mainly follow the NRL but always look forward to the Tri-Nations and now the 2008 RLWC. If in a few years time League can have a competitive 4 or 5 nations then I will be all the more happier but the NRL will always be what keeps me interested in the game. Just like the AFL does for AFL fans. You don't have to dominate the World to have a good product. You just need to talk to the Americans to realise that

Union seems to put all its eggs in the RWC basket. Which happens every 4 years. So Union is off the radar until the next World Cup comes around.

 

[Cheezel]

Like I say before the ARC was the main culprit and then it was the RWC year where the Wallabies played less test and didn't tour the NH where they share the gates . But Im sure you must have had amnesia on that one or do you just come out every time they declare a loss ? I wonder what you will be saying if they make a profit this year ?


Do the NRL make ? Im sure I read somewhere that after news Lmt take their share, funding given out to other organisation, salary cap to each NRL team and the expenses of running the NRL . There's shi* all left in the end of the day . So Mr Genius where does the NRL makes its money from apart from sponsors, tab, tv money, internet ?

Irish Warrior you don't get it do you? 2007 was a World Cup year! Where did all that money go and why did the ARU (ARC aside Warrior (talk about amnesia) and NZRU make a loss?

Irish Warrior every year the ARL/NRL makes money and increases revenue. Even blind Freddy knows that :sarcasm: So lets stick to facts and not some fantasy land were Union losing money is actual a good thing :lol: according to you!

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

A) If you actually lived here (which I seriously doubt) you wouldn't be talking so much bullsh*t.
B) I'm still waiting for stats showing union's growth in Queensland. Take your time champ.

this guy deadseat is almost at dumb as eli.

earlier on he said hes been around for quite a while and seen all this stuff before, and more or less implied this whole debate was a waste of time.

time and again he keeps adding posts which makes no sesne.

looks like all those years of arguing that union was going well have taught him nothing. for as long as this guy has been around apparently union has been declining.

keep up the good work, its hilarious.
:lol::lol:

I've seen this sort of post before . Its alot easy to get personal than to hear the truth . Keep up the good work . I don't mind the positive talk and the one eye view and all that . But denial and lying is another thing .

Warrior, I think everybody knows that Union is played in more nations then league. But league has everything to gain and Union everything to lose. Union really can't expand to any more nations.

According to the IRB website Rugby has close to 100 test nations . Considering that the Portugal team in the 2007 World Cup was the equivalent of the lebanon Team in the 2000 RLWC. Rugby has much work to do with teams outside the top ten.

Can't expand to anymore nations ? Why is that ? There more than 100 nations around aren't there ? Sky is the limit . Goodluck to league with their expansion .
Portugal rugby has many age grades playing in international tournaments and also have a strong junior base . Not as strong as other nations but it still good . If Lebanon league has the same numbers of players and paticipate in many international tournaments then I guees your right .

League is not trying to take over the World but is looking to improve current League Nations like France and Wales so that their is more competition at the top level.

Well once again goodluck to that . Rugby union has doen the same with many nations very competitive in the last RWC .

I mainly follow the NRL but always look forward to the Tri-Nations and now the 2008 RLWC. If in a few years time League can have a competitive 4 or 5 nations then I will be all the more happier but the NRL will always be what keeps me interested in the game. Just like the AFL does for AFL fans. You don't have to dominate the World to have a good product. You just need to talk to the Americans to realise that .

You can look at it that way . I mean you can also built from the top down and Im sure the S14 would be strong again if SANZAR put a stop to players going over to the NH .
So you are saying that rugby league fans would love to have just the NRL and no internationals like the AFL fans ?

Union seems to put all its eggs in the RWC basket. Which happens every 4 years. So Union is off the radar until the next World Cup comes around.

You might think that living Australia . But Im sure that people in Fiji, Samoa and Tonga stays up late to catch their team playing in the IRB 7's circut or the Munsters and Tolouse fans colour their town in Red for the Heineken Cup final like Wales did with Cardiff when they they played France for the 6 Nations title and grand slam . Then there's the French top 14 finals which is always colourful and exciting . Then theres the Bledisloe Cup and many more . Very exciting year stuff .

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

Irish Warrior you don't get it do you? 2007 was a World Cup year! Where did all that money go and why did the ARU (ARC aside Warrior (talk about amnesia) and NZRU make a loss?

Let me explain to you one more time cheese since your a league fan and probably don't know how rugby union is run .
France host the RWC not Australia or New Zealand .:sarcasm: The profit from the RWC goes to the IRB who use this money to fund rugby union around the world . So another word do your homework . New Zealand and Australia rugby loss money due to the preparations for the RWC and other reasons associate to the RWC .
The NH teams sending weak teams to the SH to rest players for the RWC . The All Blacks resting players from the S14 to prepare for RWC . NZ and Australia didn't tour the NH due to the RWC where they would have earn millions from gate sharing . SANZAR downsize the amount of games because of the RWC . Anything else you want to know ?

Irish Warrior every year the ARL/NRL makes money and increases revenue. Even blind Freddy knows that :sarcasm: So lets stick to facts and not some fantasy land were Union losing money is actual a good thing :lol: according to you!

Its simple . What would you say if NZ and Australia makes a profit this year ?

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

It's okay Warrior you can burst my bubbles if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside :lol:

I am just backing up my argument with articles. What are you backing yours up with? Burst my bubbles by all means but back it up with something :sarcasm:

I hope for the sake of Rugby Union in New Zealand that the IRB does not push all the profits up to the Northern Hemiphere nations which seem to be getting a tighter grip on the SANZA partnership as the days roll on. The ARU rolled in the cash in 2003 but 5 years later they are living on the edge. So as you can see money can't buy happiness .

Another rugby lesson . The IRB doesn't give this money to SANZA or the NH nations . They pretty much look after themselves . The money is spent on second and third tier nations and also help fund rugby tournaments all over the world like . North America Four, Pacific Nations Cup, Pacific Cup, Under 19 RWC, Under 21 RWC, European Nations Cup, Asian 5 Nations, South America Championships & Under 18, African Nations Cup and many more .

NZ has a much smaller population and infrastructure then France and Australia. That's why they were keen for a 16 team comp. The extra 4 teams might be why the 30 Million loss figure is being thrown around. The NZ time Zone can't help to much as well

New Zealand might have a smaller population but its the smaller stadiums that going against them .
We all know that the RWC tickets are going to go through the roof in New Zealand and sell very fast not only by Kiwi's but by over 50,000 international rugby fans expecting in New Zealand . This is going to be the most expensive RWC (tickets prices) ever because I know the NZRU would want to put the ticket prices up to make up for the small stadiums .

New Zealand wants to downsize the teams from 20 to 16 because it cannot cope with numbers of teams and visitors . But like I was saying before they put their hands up and they have got to sleep in it .

The 30 Million loss is only a cry for help to make the goverment spend and help out . I think the NZ goverment might have jump on board and cover any money that the NZRU might loss hosting the tournament . But I'll bet my house that the NZRU would walk away with over 20 million in profit from the RWC .

 

[Lockyer4President!]

A) If you actually lived here (which I seriously doubt) you wouldn't be talking so much bullsh*t.
B) I'm still waiting for stats showing union's growth in Queensland. Take your time champ.

The QRU have said that players paticipation numbers are up . Is that good enough or you want me to count them all ?



As far Im concern The GPS, AIC and TAS rugby schools are still there . Unless there is another school rugby union competition going around that we in Brisbane aren't aware of then I guess you can explain to us . Logan, now there's a rugby league area with heaps of Pacific Islands kids and rugby league schools .
Unfortunately the same rugby league schools took up rugby union as well with the help of the Polynesian kids and their parents . The result was league schools like Marsden SHS and St Francis College winning the Ballymore Cup since it started in 1999 .
It started in 1999 with only a handful of schools and by 2004 there were 91 schools from North Queensland, South Queensland and Metropolitan schools all vying for a Super 8 place at Ballymore.
Am I lying here too ?





It must be easy for you to think that rugby union is dying . Its like a pain killer . But it must be hard when you know internationally rugby union is still bigger than your sport . But hey, I like both and soccer, volleyball and basketball . So I must be the lucky one here .

Well that'd explain why I've seen you called Polly Waffle, neverending streams of opinionated bullsh*t. Do you realise that you have yet to actually back up anything you've said so far with facts?

You said union was growing in Queensland and haven't posted a single thing to back that up. I pointed out the number of schools that've dumped union for league and you start talking about the GPS union comp for some reason? (Whatever will you do when they start playing league again lol) After that you start talking about union's popularity worldwide? Talk about avoiding the argument...


Polly, do you even proofread what you post or do you post in a stream-of-conscious style because that's what it seems like to me.

I honestly think you need to reasses your priorities in life mate. If you really do live in Brisbane you've seen firsthand how far union has fallen in such a short space of time since the hypefest in 2003, and you'll know that it's showing no signs of stopping the fall.

Union is at death's door and no amount of bullsh*t you post on a rugby league forum will make that any less true.

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

You said union was growing in Queensland and haven't posted a single thing to back that up. I pointed out the number of schools that've dumped union for league and you start talking about the GPS union comp for some reason? (Whatever will you do when they start playing league again lol) After that you start talking about union's popularity worldwide? Talk about avoiding the argument...

Show me then any proof that rugby union playing numbers is declining in Queensland .
I mention to you that the rugby union schools in Queensland are TAS, AIC and GPS schools . True or false ?
I've mention rugby league schools that have taken up rugby union by names and you come up with Logan and Redlands .:lol: Logan and Redlands are big area and I would like know which rugby union schools and which rugby union competitions they played in ? Because we all know there's only the private schools competitions and the new Ballymore Cup competitions which as seen many rugby league schools paticipated in it . True or false ?

I honestly think you need to reasses your priorities in life mate. If you really do live in Brisbane you've seen firsthand how far union has fallen in such a short space of time since the hypefest in 2003, and you'll know that it's showing no signs of stopping the fall.

Union is at death's door and no amount of bullsh*t you post on a rugby league forum will make that any less true.

The good thing about living in Brisbane is I can catch a liar like you . The Reds might not be performing but it still doesn't stop new kids taken up the sport . We had trials for the Samoan rugby union team & under 20 RWC team at Sunnybank last monday . We were very surprise to see many rugby league kids currently playing for the Broncos & Titans under 20 team and many Queensland Cup players wanting to represent the most famous Samoan national rugby team .

 

[Cheezel]

Another rugby lesson . The IRB doesn't give this money to SANZA or the NH nations . They pretty much look after themselves .

New Zealand wants to downsize the teams from 20 to 16 because it cannot cope with numbers of teams and visitors . But like I was saying before they put their hands up and they have got to sleep in it .

The 30 Million loss is only a cry for help to make the goverment spend and help out . I think the NZ goverment might have jump on board and cover any money that the NZRU might loss hosting the tournament .

Irish Warrior you really need to start reading my posts properly :sarcasm:. Your reply posts are not getting any better. So I am going to keep to really simple this time :shock:

When the RWC is on all nations get allocated money and the higher placed they finish the more money they get. So union expert you think you might be but your poists are painting a different picture.

Cry for help from the NZRU? Once again you are saying "I THINK" :crazy: Warrior I have done the correct thing and backed up my whole argument with articles. You can't give me one article and tell me YOU THINK the NZ government might jump on board and help out.

So you say that they have downsized because they can't cope with the numbers? Only time will tell my friend

Please do some research before replying this time and read my previous posts. The "I Think" response does not stack up. :sarcasm:

 

[Cheezel]

Let me explain to you one more time cheese since your a league fan and probably don't know how rugby union is run . France host the RWC not Australia or New Zealand .:sarcasm: The profit from the RWC goes to the IRB who use this money to fund rugby union around the world . So another word do your homework . quote]

Irish Warrior this is starting to become fun I think you need to do some homework champ if you think the participating nations don't get any money :lol:.

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

Irish Warrior you really need to start reading my posts properly :sarcasm:. Your reply posts are not getting any better. So I am going to keep to really simple this time :shock:

When the RWC is on all nations get allocated money and the higher placed they finish the more money they get. So union expert you think you might be but your poists are painting a different picture.

Are you talking about packet money that the IRB gives out to RWC teams to help with expenses and appearance at the RWC ? You had us thinking NZ & Australia got millions each .:sarcasm: The IRB keeps all the profits apart from half of the gates which goes to the host nations which I think its good idea . More money to fund rugby union .

Cry for help from the NZRU? Once again you are saying "I THINK" :crazy: Warrior I have done the correct thing and backed up my whole argument with articles. You can't give me one article and tell me YOU THINK the NZ government might jump on board and help out.

So you say that they have downsized because they can't cope with the numbers? Only time will tell my friend .

Only time will tell my friend but trust me . The NZRU will come out with a huge profit in the end . Like I was saying the NZRU knew what it was getting itself when they put their hands up to host the RWC . The goverment and local goverments has already jump on board . Who do you think is funding most of the work done on the stadiums ? They would be foolish not to fund the biggest event ever in New Zealand's history .

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

Let me explain to you one more time cheese since your a league fan and probably don't know how rugby union is run . France host the RWC not Australia or New Zealand .:sarcasm: The profit from the RWC goes to the IRB who use this money to fund rugby union around the world . So another word do your homework . quote]

Irish Warrior this is starting to become fun I think you need to do some homework champ if you think the participating nations don't get any money :lol:.

No kidding . I already know about paticipation money . But Im sure that little pocket money aint going to cover what has already spend getting there .

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

Can RL take over from RU in NZ? Can RL take over from RU in NZ? .......Looks like its already happening in a big way .:lol::lol: The Road To
El Dorado is looking very bleak .

Sparc orders league to shape up

By STEVE KILGALLON - Sunday Star Times | Sunday, 04 May 2008

Reuters​

The NZRL fears Sparc's move could deeply damage talks with the Australian Rugby League for a huge funding injection and jeopardise the continuing competitiveness of the Kiwis.




Government sport funding agency Sparc is poised to effectively take control of rugby league and will cut off its major source of funding if it doesn't agree to an extensive and immediate review of the entire sport.

 

[Cheezel]

Can't expand to anymore nations ? Why is that ? There more than 100 nations around aren't there ? Sky is the limit . Goodluck to league with their expansion . .

Warrior you and I both know about 50 of the 100 test nations are farcical at best and only about 10 nations would be classed as competitive. But I am sure you will tell me different

Portugal rugby has many age grades playing in international tournaments and also have a strong junior base . Not as strong as other nations but it still good . If Lebanon league has the same numbers of players and paticipate in many international tournaments then I guees your right ..

Yes I must be right then

I mean you can also built from the top down and Im sure the S14 would be strong again if SANZAR put a stop to players going over to the NH .
So you are saying that rugby league fans would love to have just the NRL and no internationals like the AFL fans ?..

Their you go again putting words into my mouth :sarcasm: Read my post again!

You might think that living Australia . But Im sure that people in Fiji, Samoa and Tonga stays up late to catch their team playing in the IRB 7's circut or the Munsters and Tolouse fans colour their town in Red for the Heineken Cup final like Wales did with Cardiff when they they played France for the 6 Nations title and grand slam . Then there's the French top 14 finals which is always colourful and exciting . Then theres the Bledisloe Cup and many more . Very exciting year stuff .

So your talking about nations that league is also played in :crazy: so what are you trying to say Irish Warrior?

 

[dallymessenger]

Im happy watching S14 and rugby union internationals Are you happy with yours ?

if you are so happy, what are you doing trolling RL message boards, desperately defending union/

if i were happy with my sport - i am - i wouldnt bother going on a RU message board to defend league.

i wouldnt care what they say.

judging by your posts this thread has upset you.

im guessing as RL grows whilst union stagnates you wont he a happy chappy