Avram Grant LOL Thread

[NK Arsenal]

AVRAM Grant insists the only way to separate Chelsea and Manchester United would be a play-off to decide the Barclays Premier League title.

The two clubs are level on points going into the final day of the season with Grant's Chelsea closing the gap in the last month but trailing on goal difference.

United's freescoring style has given them the edge despite Grant targeting more attractive football since taking over from Jose Mourinho.

Grant said: "We've won games 6-0, 6-1, 4-0 and 3-0 this season. When you miss so many players, the first target is to win games, especially in the beginning.

"I must admit that United have played very good football. They think this is the best season since Sir Alex Ferguson came.

"But I prefer the system in Italy. You play a play-off if you're level and it is decided on that.

"I have interest now to say that. But I like it anyway. Sometimes, you score more goals against weaker teams.

"If you have the same points, you are at the same level."

Perhaps a winner-takes-all clash in Moscow combining the Champions League final?

Grant joked: "I think it's a good idea, can you tell the FA?"

Instead of a mouth-watering play-off, the title will be decided on Sunday if United win at Wigan, which would mean Chelsea's result against Bolton would not matter.

If it ends in disappointment for Chelsea, Grant may point to his first game in charge, at Old Trafford, when he felt the referee denied him a result. There have also been dropped points recently against Wigan and Tottenham.

But the gulf in goal difference may be the ultimate factor.

"You can't push a button and change things immediately," Grant said. "We've won many games playing attractive football. We can change it with the players we have here."

United's goal difference stands at 56, compared to Chelsea's 39, but Grant feels his side have been playing the better football recently.

"There is no doubt about this, in the last month we have played very good games," Grant said. "The best football at the right times against big teams and big managers. "Whatever happens on Sunday I will be very proud of what we have done this season.

"Alex said a few months ago it was the best Manchester United side since he's been coaching. We've given a battle.

"If they take the title, and I'm not sure they will, it will be on goal difference."

Regardless of the outcome, Grant feels his relationship with Ferguson will not be affected.

"I promised him an Israeli wine and we're going to drink it before the Champions League final," Grant said.

"We're friends. I'm friends with other coaches who I've then gone out to try and beat. That's what happens. I wanted to beat him, even if he was angry with me afterwards."

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/75722,grant-proposes-premier-playoff.aspx

:lol:

 

[Eddie.]

Not sure about the idea of a playoff. I think the 38 games should not be comprimised, goal difference is a fair enough point of difference.

I never liked Grant, and it has been increasingly hard to warm to him. However I begrudgingly give him some credit. If someone said to me when he took charge we would in effect finish equal 1st with United I would of laughed very hard.

I still believe the main reason we have held it together is the tremendous leadership of John Terry, who has rallied seemingly unmotivated players to rise again under Grant.

 

[Dogaholic]

what a knob.
No shock that he wants to Americanise football.

 

[Matt23]

The real "special one" strikes again

 

[pennywisealfie]

i think its a super idea. if teams are tied for first or for a european spot or a spot to stay in the premier league/relegation then goal difference shouldnt decide this. there should be a playoff at the home ground of the team with the better goal difference.

 

[Foz]

I agree.
It wont happen that often that teams tie for a title but euro spots etc might
also be up for grabs.
A lot of luck in a lot of things in football anyway(eg get Derby on a dry pitch with half a squad out compared to playing them at full strength on a wet track might alter the goal difference)but thats football so I can see it both ways.

 

[eastsrule]

It is actually a good idea that teams on equal points play a one off match to decide who gets the higher spot.

I honestly believe that all these people hating Avram do so because he is Israeli. If he were of another nationality he would have more support.

 

[Mong]

I still believe the main reason we have held it together is the tremendous leadership of John Terry, who has rallied seemingly unmotivated players to rise again under Grant.

You'd have to question that of late, he didn't seem interested when Ballack and Drogba were looking likely to do a Bowyer V Dyer incident and there was something the match or 2 after that he was suspiciously missing for (can't remember exactly what that was right at the moment).

The first one especially stood out that it was a time the captain should have been there, if he was on the field, and i am pretty sure he was, then his captaincy was pretty poor.

 

[Mong]

It is actually a good idea that teams on equal points play a one off match to decide who gets the higher spot.

I honestly believe that all these people hating Avram do so because he is Israeli. If he were of another nationality he would have more support.

That's a big call.. Can't agree.

I'd more say it's the way he looks and sounds. hard to warm to that unfortunatley.. He's doing a fantastic job though no matter how boring they are to watch compared to Manure and Arsenal.

 

[Twizzle]

I like the idea

would be the game of the season if there were spots up for grabs

 

[NK Arsenal]

I honestly believe that all these people hating Avram do so because he is Israeli. If he were of another nationality he would have more support.

:lol:

 

[eastsrule]

That's a big call.. Can't agree.

I'd more say it's the way he looks and sounds. hard to warm to that unfortunatley.. He's doing a fantastic job though no matter how boring they are to watch compared to Manure and Arsenal.

I guarantee that if Avram Grant was an Australian, from Spain or even Russian, people would have given him a chance to "warm to them". Fact is no one gave him a chance.

It is not as if Avram was instrumental in Jose leaving. Avram has also proven that he is at the very least a half decent manager. No one even knows how he acts around and with the players on the practice pitch or in the dressing room.

So you say how he looks and sounds? Rafa speaks like an idiot with his accent yet he is called a genius.

There is only one other factor that someone who was relatively unknown was never given a chance to be "warmed to". In less than one season, he may have out performed the 'special one' with a very similar bunch of players.

 

[eastsrule]

:lol:

Coming from an Arsenal fan?

Enjoy tonight and May 21. :lol:

Also, enjoy Wenger. I would take Frank Farina over him.

 

[Mong]

I guarantee that if Avram Grant was an Australian, from Spain or even Russian, people would have given him a chance to "warm to them". Fact is no one gave him a chance.

It is not as if Avram was instrumental in Jose leaving. Avram has also proven that he is at the very least a half decent manager. No one even knows how he acts around and with the players on the practice pitch or in the dressing room.

So you say how he looks and sounds? Rafa speaks like an idiot with his accent yet he is called a genius.

There is only one other factor that someone who was relatively unknown was never given a chance to be "warmed to". In less than one season, he may have out performed the 'special one' with a very similar bunch of players.

:roll:

Continue to play the silly race card..

 

[eastsrule]

“Avram Grant has come in and is doing a very good job,” he said. “Everyone is happy right now and I think that's why we are having success. All credit to him, he's been a fantastic man. We just have to keep going and, hopefully, we'll get our goal of winning the title and the Champions League.”
John Obi Mikel

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article3904373.ece

Also, those friendly Palestinians started a Facebook group:

Type:Sports & Recreation - International Sports
Description:C.F.C (Chelsea Football Club) recruited the Israeli trainer Avram Grant instead of Jose Mourinho,if a lot of members join this group we can send a message to the official site for Chelsea Football Club to inform them about our rage and rejection for this false decision !!!

 

[Mong]

Wow.. Some Palestinians have a problem with him.. Therefore everyone else does..

Try and keep your race cr*p for 4c's dude.

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

i think its a super idea. if teams are tied for first or for a european spot or a spot to stay in the premier league/relegation then goal difference shouldnt decide this. there should be a playoff at the home ground of the team with the better goal difference.

Goal difference rewards attacking football, do Chelsea deserve a playoff for grinding out 1-0 results every week when we have the same points from playing proper attacking football and destroying teams in the process?

It is actually a good idea that teams on equal points play a one off match to decide who gets the higher spot.

I honestly believe that all these people hating Avram do so because he is Israeli. If he were of another nationality he would have more support.

Sorry, but that is such bullsh*t.

He's hated because he is a big, ugly, obnoxious puppet who undermined one of the most popular figures in Chelsea's history. He has no personality, no profile, no experience, he hasn't changed their style of football at all and he walked into the job because Abramovich can manipulate him.

But of course none of that matters, it's because he's from Israel.

:roll:

 

[eastsrule]

Wow.. Some Palestinians have a problem with him.. Therefore everyone else does..

Try and keep your race cr*p for 4c's dude.

That group doesn't show that everyone has a problem. But it demonstrates that it exists.

It isn't necessarily race "cr*p". It was an observation that ironically enough you got worked up about. The manner by which you simply dismiss it has nothing to do with your own political opinions does it?

My opinion is that he has shown he can manage a team successfully and deserves more respect. Particularly from fans of clubs such as Arsenal and West Ham.

 

[Mong]

That group doesn't show that everyone has a problem. But it demonstrates that it exists.

Palestinians usually don't like people from Israel..No surprises there, doesn't explain what your trying to say though

It isn't necessarily race "cr*p". It was an observation that ironically enough you got worked up about. The manner by which you simply dismiss it has nothing to do with your own political opinions does it?

Not at all, i have already said why i think he isn't that well liked.

My opinion is that he has shown he can manage a team successfully and deserves more respect. Particularly from fans of clubs such as Arsenal and West Ham.

I have said earlier in this thread that he has done a great job, albeit they are still boring to watch..

 

[eastsrule]

Sorry, but that is such bullsh*t.

He's hated because he is a big, ugly, obnoxious puppet who undermined one of the most popular figures in Chelsea's history. He has no personality, no profile, no experience, he hasn't changed their style of football at all and he walked into the job because Abramovich can manipulate him.

But of course none of that matters, it's because he's from Israel.

:roll:

if what you say is true, it has worked hasn't it? We have a chance to do a double.

As opposed to Arsenal who rely on Wenger to develop talent. What has that won you this year? Has he developed a goal keeper and some fullbacks?

I have said earlier in this thread that he has done a great job, albeit they are still boring to watch..

Chelsea played much more attractive football than Liverpool and Man U in the last few games. Do you not agree?