Lets hand the premiership to Storm on a silver platter!

[meltiger]

i think manly will take plenty out of this game.

orford's crappy 6th tackle options have probably cost them the game.

i think tonight they will have learnt what's required to roll the storm next time they meet.

Agree. Manly will be better for the loss.


Watching the Storm I'll admit, is much like watching Super 14 in that a pass needs to be a metre forward before it is pulled back BUT Manly lost that game last night because of their sh*t last tackle options.

Chiledude, you cannot blame the ref when you dominate the majority of the game, but simply can't score points.


Assuming the make the GF, Dessy now has 8 weeks to work out how his team can be a little less predictable, especially when within the attacking 20

 

[camsmith]

Agree. Manly will be better for the loss.

Watching the Storm I'll admit, is much like watching Super 14 in that a pass needs to be a metre forward before it is pulled back BUT Manly lost that game last night because of their sh*t last tackle options.

Chiledude, you cannot blame the ref when you dominate the majority of the game, but simply can't score points.

We did get called for something like 3 forward passes. In every game there are flat/forward passes and there were even some from Manly that looked forward but of course you dont get the crowd noise when that happens so it tends to go unnoticed.

I think your first and last sentence sort've contradict each other. Are Manly better for the loss knowing they threw everything at us but still couldn't get over the line?

Or are we better for it knowing we can play nowhere near our best but still come up with the points against one of the best teams in the comp on their turf.

 

[mxlegend99]

Ugh, completely different. Iosefa pushed someone trying to pick up the ball, Stewart ran into someone trying to impede him.

The situation was exactly the same. Masada Iosefa ran into a slower player trying to block him from getting the ball.

It would have been inconsistant with last week had Manly scored that try.

 

[meltiger]

We did get called for something like 3 forward passes. In every game there are flat/forward passes and there were even some from Manly that looked forward but of course you dont get the crowd noise when that happens so it tends to go unnoticed.

Like the try off the Slater break? The only lgal pass in that one was the last from Slater.

I think your first and last sentence sort've contradict each other.

Not at all.

Are Manly better for the loss knowing they threw everything at us but still couldn't get over the line?

Manly now know they have the game that can hinder the Storm.

They simply need to work on their attack.

Or are we better for it knowing we can play nowhere near our best but still come up with the points against one of the best teams in the comp on their turf.

Melbourne played only as well as Manly let them. That's why it's a positive for Manly.


There were no positives for Melbourne last night. The only reason you fell across the line was Orford's sh*ttehouse kicking game and the lack of any other last tackle options for Manly.


This of course can be rectified before GF day.

 

[mxlegend99]

No positives for Melbourne?

They won the game without playing anywhere near their best footy. That's a pretty good outcome IMO.

 

[camsmith]

Like the try off the Slater break? The only lgal pass in that one was the last from Slater.

Thats just wrong. Go and watch it again there was ONE in that passage of play that was line ball the rest were 100% fine.

Not at all.

So you say Manly dominated the game but didn't win... and thats a good thing for Manly?

Manly now know they have the game that can hinder the Storm.

They simply need to work on their attack.

Melbourne played only as well as Manly let them. That's why it's a positive for Manly.

Ok then..

There were no positives for Melbourne last night. The only reason you fell across the line was Orford's sh*ttehouse kicking game and the lack of any other last tackle options for Manly.

This of course can be rectified before GF day.

And any areas of the game where we struggled can be rectified before GF day. Isn't that a bit of a cop-out? Why didn't they rectify the problems after our first game against them this season?

No positives for Melbourne.. other than beating Manly at this ground for only the second time in our history. Winning a game with our best players having a quiet night, doing a double on Manly for the season, winning the game despite yet another team trying start fights with us attempting to get us off our game, drawing level to Manly on prem points and closing the gap on our for/against.

Good night for the Storm all things considered.

 

[salivor]

How could last night be a positive for Manly? They've now lost their last 3 against the Storm, put out their A game while their opposition didn't and still lost. I don't see where the improvement will come from as if they meet again Orford will still be in the 7 and therefore the general kicking game and last tackle options will be poor.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

The situation was exactly the same. Masada Iosefa ran into a slower player trying to block him from getting the ball.

It would have been inconsistant with last week had Manly scored that try.

Um, no, situation entirely different

Last week, ball on the ground, man bending down to pick it up

This week, ball in the air, man blocking away from the ball

 

[Beavers Headgear]

It was nowhere near our A game

If you want to see the A game grab the 1st half against the Sharks with 0 errors in it

Last night manly dropped plenty of ball, and run bugger all of their set plays. I have a feeling both teams were holding things back though. Lyon will make a clear difference on the last tackle as well, and give us an extra point of attack that will make more of a difference, King will offer more off the bench that Bryant too

To all the Manly fans complaining, don't.

Sure, there were some crucial calls that we sh*t and we didnt get the 50/50s at all, but at the end of the day, our errors contributed to the loss, and we had our chances to put them away, but did not

I also find it amusing that Manly can't win the GF because Melbourne have beaten us 3 times in a row

Kinghts fans may be able to help here, but Manly had won something like 16 times in a row against Newcastle prior to the GF, and it meant nothing

Also think back to 2001, about 5 weeks out from the finals the Eels absolutely hammered Newcastle 40-0, didn't count for a lot in the GF

 

[mxlegend99]

Um, no, situation entirely different

Last week, ball on the ground, man bending down to pick it up

This week, ball in the air, man blocking away from the ball

Both players knocked someone over while trying to get the ball. Both players got penalised for it... even though neither player had much choice.

You only see it as different because you're a biased Manly supporter.

 

[Mr Saab]

It was nowhere near our A game

If you want to see the A game grab the 1st half against the Sharks with 0 errors in it

Thats fine....but its who you play and the Sharks are pretenders

Also think back to 2001, about 5 weeks out from the finals the Eels absolutely hammered Newcastle 40-0, didn't count for a lot in the GF

That was longer than 5 weeks and it was also minus Johns and we all know they sucked without him back then

 

[cupid]

No positives for Melbourne?

They won the game without playing anywhere near their best footy. That's a pretty good outcome IMO.

You missed this ' Melbourne played only as well as Manly let them' read it over next time.

 

[Ice777]

It was nowhere near our A game

If you want to see the A game grab the 1st half against the Sharks with 0 errors in it

Pretty much every team has a half like that every once in a while and are capable of it but how often does it happen? Not very often at all so i wouldn't be pinning my hopes on that happening especially in the pressure of finals footy.

I'm not one of those saying that Manly can't win the GF because they certainly can. If they make it and they're right on their game and the opposition whoever that may be are right off their game they're more than capable of taking it out. But that goes for all teams really, you can't show up and play well below your best and win it.

I also think it's a bit laughable that someone said that the Storm can't take anything out of the game given that as mentioned we haven't won at the ground since 1999. Manly are near unbeatable there and seem to grow and extra leg so i think people under estimate the huge advantage that gave them last night which to me made the Storm win even more impressive. As Bellamy said it was one of our gutsiest wins and i can't argue with him there.

 

[Marshall_magic]

If that's Manly's A Game then they shouldn't be in first, the kicking game was atrocious, even as a neutral fan I was tearing my hair out. Manly definitely have the game to rattle Melbourne, once they get their kicking game right (and have some decent refereeing) they can comfortably beat Melbourne.

 

[Jobdog]

Why was Brett Stewarts try disallowed (besides a dodgy vid ref call).....if we reverse that decision anjd let the Storm score that try, does it go to the vid ref?????
Simple.....NO! Win, lose or draw tonight, yet again the Storm get the rub of the green!

Melbourne are run by News Limited. News Limited run the game. Come to your own conclusion.

 

[kia ora storm]

Pretty much every team has a half like that every once in a while and are capable of it but how often does it happen? Not very often at all so i wouldn't be pinning my hopes on that happening especially in the pressure of finals footy.

I'm not one of those saying that Manly can't win the GF because they certainly can. If they make it and they're right on their game and the opposition whoever that may be are right off their game they're more than capable of taking it out. But that goes for all teams really, you can't show up and play well below your best and win it.

I also think it's a bit laughable that someone said that the Storm can't take anything out of the game given that as mentioned we haven't won at the ground since 1999. Manly are near unbeatable there and seem to grow and extra leg so i think people under estimate the huge advantage that gave them last night which to me made the Storm win even more impressive. As Bellamy said it was one of our gutsiest wins and i can't argue with him there.

Exactly...Storm had everything against them last night. A loss could have made their finals run a lot harder.

It was a good tough match for Storm and this will have them ready for the Chooks next Friday...

 

[Eagle_Rocker]

Manly played with great passion and intensity, but it was far from their "A game". It was Manly that was coming up with more unforced errors and poor 5th tackle options, so it's stupid for anyone to say we can't improve. I thought our defence shut down Melbourne's big names fairly well, except for some great plays from Cronk and Slater. Everyone seems to just dismiss the fact we were missing Lyon who was probably our best over the 7 game winning streak (which came to an end the next match after his injury). I'm not going to give up on 2008 yet!

There seems to be a number of Brisbane fans trying to pull Manly down, any reason why?

 

[Downie]

Both players knocked someone over while trying to get the ball. Both players got penalised for it... even though neither player had much choice.

You only see it as different because you're a biased Manly supporter.

Fmd, Stewart ran into someone shepherding him from Slater who was jumping for the ball, Iosefa pushed over Williams who was trying to pick up the ball. If you see them as the same you're a deadset idiot.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Both players knocked someone over while trying to get the ball. Both players got penalised for it... even though neither player had much choice.

You only see it as different because you're a biased Manly supporter.

:lol:, sure thing champ. I won't go down the biased Panther supporter line, coz i am past my teenage years

A player bending down, with his hands pretty much on the ball, compared to a guy not even making a play at the ball, is the same situation :lol:

 

[Dutchy]

we had will chambers out :sarcasm:

Bani ;-)