What to do with Level 3 - Parramatta Leagues Club

[Gronk]

or is he as qualified as Fitzy was when he took the job on ?

These days you would expect a Bachelor of Commerce (Sports Administration) together with the experience to back it up.

 

[Suitman]

These days you would expect a Bachelor of Commerce (Sports Administration) together with the experience to back it up.

What a load of sh*t.

What has changed "these days"?

These days, they expect a carpenters apprentice to have gone onto Year 12. Waste of time in my opinion.
What is "expected", and what is "practical" or "essential", is two different things to me.

Suity

 

[Gronk]

Originally Posted by Gronk
These days you would expect a Bachelor of Commerce (Sports Administration) together with the experience to back it up.

What a load of sh*t.

What has changed "these days"?

These days, they expect a carpenters apprentice to have gone onto Year 12. Waste of time in my opinion.
What is "expected", and what is "practical" or "essential", is two different things to me.

Suity

Welcome to the real world Suity. You don't put a unqualified bloke in charge of a multi-million dollar business cos he's a nice guy and has his heart in the right place. You need the runs on the board. A tertiary education in the relevant field and some experience in sports admin is essential. You're kidding, right ? :?

 

[Suitman]

Welcome to the real world Suity. You don't put a unqualified bloke in charge of a multi-million dollar business cos he's a nice guy and has his heart in the right place. You need the runs on the board. A tertiary education in the relevant field and some experience in sports admin is essential. You're kidding, right ? :?

No I'm not. Who says's he's (or anyone else for that matter) unqualified because he doesn't have a tertiary education. A tertiary education gives you business experience does it?
You're kidding, right?

Suity

 

[strider]

a tertiary education gives you a bit of paper

that your mum can put in a frame

with a blue border around it - cos it matches the bit of material on your graduation gown


nah - you do learn alot - half of which u actually use in real life (well thats my experience)

 

[Gronk]

No I'm not. Who says's he's (or anyone else for that matter) unqualified because he doesn't have a tertiary education.

There are always exceptions to the rule. Of course if he has a sports admin background then there is no reason why he would not be a viable candidate.

A tertiary education gives you business experience does it?
You're kidding, right?

I never said that.

What I'm concerned about here (and I'll be stoked to be wrong) but when the current CEO gets the boot, that 3P will seek public applications in the National Press for the 2 CEO roles rather than simply appoint their mates.

 

[Suitman]

There are always exceptions to the rule. Of course if he has a sports admin background then there is no reason why he would not be a viable candidate.

And why would he even need that? Did Denis have it? And if he did, what experience did he have in Sports Management? What's changed?
From my memory, he delivered fruit and vegies to the markets.

I never said that..

Yes you did. You said it was "essential".

What I'm concerned about here (and I'll be stoked to be wrong) but when the current CEO gets the boot, that 3P will seek public applications in the National Press for the 2 CEO roles rather than simply appoint their mates.

I'd like that as well, but if, on the other hand, they find a candidate that they think is suitable, so what?
If you are that concerned, vote for the incumbants and be satisfied with the staus quo. We all know where that has got us.

Suity

 

[parra pete]

pete?

Suity

Don't know anything about the bloke (Terry) to be honest.

Fitzy ran a trucking business, and went to the same school as me... that's enough to qualify him for the job at the time. :lol: (I don't know if it made him bright or just able to lift heavy fings.. ;-)
Bomber Peard told me that Denis was a key man in the rights of players when he first sought to get on to the Football Board. He has been in the position for over 30 years...you can't buy experience like that...
Can't see the point in replacing him for the sake of replacing him..How is he not doing his job as the Football Club CEO. I go along with the thoughts of blokes like Nathan Hindmarsh, Bomber Peard, Mick Cronin, Peter Wynn who have all come out in support of Fitzy..

 

[Gronk]

And why would he even need that? Did Denis have it? And if he did, what experience did he have in Sports Management? What's changed?
From my memory, he delivered fruit and vegies to the markets.

That's hardly a precedent worth repeating.

Yes you did. You said it was "essential".

No I said that both the degree in sports admin and experience was essential. That would be your goal. If you cant get applications for that sort of qualifications & experience, then you look at those lesser qualified. It's a high paid gig. You want the best for the kind of cash they'll be getting

I'd like that as well, but if, on the other hand, they find a candidate that they think is suitable, so what?

I would think it's outrageous and kinda dodgy that they haven't tested the market

If you are that concerned, vote for the incumbants and be satisfied with the staus quo. We all know where that has got us.

These guys don't have a mandate to do/appoint as they please. But basically you think I should shut up or vote for Fitzy. Hmmmmok. :roll:

 

[Suitman]

That's hardly a precedent worth repeating.

So I take it that you are not happy with the precedent that was set? Doesn't mean someone else that HAS business experience, can't be the right person for the job.

No I said that both the degree in sports admin and experience was essential. That would be your goal. If you cant get applications for that sort of qualifications & experience, then you look at those lesser qualified. It's a high paid gig. You want the best for the kind of cash they'll be getting

And I replied that that would be my goal as well, but I wouldn't be prejudiced against someone who didn't have those qualifications, if they were considered the right person for the job. I'm keeping an open mind, unlike you, who has set very restricting ground rules.

I would think it's outrageous and kinda dodgy that they haven't tested the market

Already answered that.

These guys don't have a mandate to do/appoint as they please. But basically you think I should shut up or vote for Fitzy. Hmmmmok. :roll:

With your basic line of questioning, yes I do. As I posed to Fishy, I'd like you to ask the same questions, and more, of the current admisistration. Of course, I think you appear to be reluctant to do that. Unless of course it's because they are not available to give their point of view. Ovo has been the exception, but his answers have been as weak as piss. I'd be more concerned about that tbh.
Seriously, you are now coming across as questioning for questions sake.
I haven't seen you be objective yet.

Junior009 said it best.

Suity

 

[Suitman]

Don't know anything about the bloke (Terry) to be honest...

Then maybe you should send another PM to PF and find out.

Mick Cronin, Peter Wynn who have all come out in support of Fitzy..

So what?

And Price, Kenny and Grothe have come out in support of 3P.
I know of others as well. In fact, as I stood in line to vote, a former first grade grand final winner was in front of me in the queue. He said that he'd had a gutful of the current mob, and was voting otherwise.

Suity

 

[fish eel]

With your basic line of questioning, yes I do. As I posed to Fishy, I'd like you to ask the same questions, and more, of the current admisistration. Of course, I think you appear to be reluctant to do that. Unless of course it's because they are not available to give their point of view. Ovo has been the exception, but his answers have been as weak as piss. I'd be more concerned about that tbh.
Seriously, you are now coming across as questioning for questions sake.
I haven't seen you be objective yet.

Junior009 said it best.

Suity

Of course Suity, that type of question is really only relevant if somebody was undecided on the current board and their record wasn't enough to form a view on them. ;-)

EG: I know what the board is like. I know what I think about the job they've. I dont think I need to question them at all as, given their record, there is probably very little they could say that would influence me.

That doesnt mean we shouldnt ask 3P hard questions, which I did, and after everyone tried answering for them(which was pretty ironic to see) I got a good, sizeable answer from Col and will no doubt talk more to him.

 

[Gronk]

So I take it that you are not happy with the precedent that was set? Doesn't mean someone else that HAS business experience, can't be the right person for the job.



And I replied that that would be my goal as well, but I wouldn't be prejudiced against someone who didn't have those qualifications, if they were considered the right person for the job. I'm keeping an open mind, unlike you, who has set very restricting ground rules.



Already answered that.



With your basic line of questioning, yes I do. As I posed to Fishy, I'd like you to ask the same questions, and more, of the current admisistration. Of course, I think you appear to be reluctant to do that. Unless of course it's because they are not available to give their point of view. Ovo has been the exception, but his answers have been as weak as piss. I'd be more concerned about that tbh.
Seriously, you are now coming across as questioning for questions sake.
I haven't seen you be objective yet.

Junior009 said it best.

Suity

My agenda is that they appoint the best (wo)man available in the market place and take our club to a new level. Sorry if you don't like what I say.

 

[Suitman]

Of course Suity, that type of question is really only relevant if somebody was undecided on the current board and their record wasn't enough to form a view on them. ;-)

EG: I know what the board is like. I know what I think about the job they've. I dont think I need to question them at all as, given their record, there is probably very little they could say that would influence me.

That doesnt mean we shouldnt ask 3P hard questions, which I did, and after everyone tried answering for them(which was pretty ironic to see) I got a good, sizeable answer from Col and will no doubt talk more to him.

No worries. I know what your view is, I was posing the question to Gronk.
Thankyou however, for answering on his behalf.

Suity

 

[Suitman]

My agenda is that they appoint the best (wo)man available in the market place and take our club to a new level. Sorry if you don't like what I say.

FFS? Do you not read my replies?

Suity

 

[fish eel]

No worries. I know what your view is, I was posing the question to Gronk.
Thankyou however, for answering on his behalf.

Suity

Just taking the lead of everyone in this thread who are answering everyones questions ;-) :lol:

 

[Suitman]

Just taking the lead of everyone in this thread who are answering everyones questions ;-) :lol:

:lol::lol:

Suity

 

[Gronk]

FFS? Do you not read my replies?

Suity

No I didn't actually. I got bored with it all. Sorry.

 

[Suitman]

No I didn't actually. I got bored with it all. Sorry.

Well, I know why.

Suity

 

[fish eel]

Well, I know why.

Suity

He was looking for some new smilies?