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Joel Moon

NZ Warrior

First Grade
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I think once he settles in, he's going to be the buy of the year. People have got to remember that he is still young, and 5/8 is a magnanimous role to play.

He's got a great boot on him and he's a strong player. But he has got Stacey Jones on the other side of him. So he may be a bit hesitant to direct play his way, that's understandable.

One good thing, is that the Fien fiasco has been sorted out. Meaning that we may get our halves combination settled. It looks like it's going to be Jones at halfback and Moon at 5/8. The more time Moon gets in the stand off position, the better he's going to be.

He was shifted to centre for a few games, and he filled in admirably. But I felt the team suffered. Hopefully the Warriors get back to some sort of structure now that they have the halves combo sorted out.

So far, I'd give him an 8 out of 10. That is sure to improve with the more game time he gets at 5/8. And I tell you, there will be a few forumers in here eating humble pie with a side of hat, come season's end.
 

Rich102

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I think once he settles in, he's going to be the buy of the year. People have got to remember that he is still young, and 5/8 is a magnanimous role to play.

He's got a great boot on him and he's a strong player. But he has got Stacey Jones on the other side of him. So he may be a bit hesitant to direct play his way, that's understandable.

One good thing, is that the Fien fiasco has been sorted out. Meaning that we may get our halves combination settled. It looks like it's going to be Jones at halfback and Moon at 5/8. The more time Moon gets in the stand off position, the better he's going to be.

He was shifted to centre for a few games, and he filled in admirably. But I felt the team suffered. Hopefully the Warriors get back to some sort of structure now that they have the halves combo sorted out.

So far, I'd give him an 8 out of 10. That is sure to improve with the more game time he gets at 5/8. And I tell you, there will be a few forumers in here eating humble pie with a side of hat, come season's end.

Magnanimous, a. High-souled, above petty feelings.
How does this apply to a standoff?
 
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I think he`s been one of our best players. Not a visionary Lockyer type 5/8th though, more in the mold of Anasta, a very strong runner, always looking to bust the line and offload. His long kicking is very useful. He defends hard. With time I trust that he will add more dimensions to his passing and short kicking game, but very happy with him so far.
 

shiznit

Coach
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i put him in the mold of a freddy fittler or a jason smith... big 5/8 or lock imo...

he just needs some time to work on his ball skills... imo he could be ANYTHING...

i really hope the warriors stick with the kid...

my only criticism is probably that he doesn't involve himself in the key moments enough... thats probably because hes still learning his way.. but with his big boot he should be stepping up and going for 40/20s... or he should get his hands on the ball at the critical moments more often. at the moment when a key play is coming up it goes to Jones straight away...
 

Lego_Man

First Grade
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He puts in.

Great long kicking game.

Muscles up on D.

Good grounding in basic skills (draw and pass etc) that NZ-developed players seem to lack.

Deceptively strong, good ball runner.

All in all I really like the kid.
 

ozbash

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While Nathan Fien might feel unloved as he contemplates the next move of his rugby league career, Joel Moon senses he is back where he belongs at the New Zealand Warriors.
The Queenslander pair received contrasting news as the Warriors seek to address an alarming form slump when visiting a similarly troubled Canberra Raiders in the Australian capital on Sunday (4pmNZT).
Fien lost his role as starting five-eighth - and was told his contract will not be renewed - while Moon returns to his favoured position for an 11th round National Rugby League (NRL) clash.
Warriors head coach Ivan Cleary, livid after the Warriors' insipid 12-34 home defeat to North Queensland last Sunday, revealed a ruthless streak this week when acknowledging World Cup-winner Fien and Stacey Jones - the man he was recruited to replace - are incompatible as a halves pairing.
There is only room for one specialist halfback as the Warriors strive to improve on their 11th position, meaning Moon is reinstated after a brief exile in the centres.
The off-season recruit from the Brisbane Broncos started the season at five-eighth outside Fien but has spent the Warriors last two losses at centre, a reflection on his performance in the No 6 shirt and the need to fill the void left by Brent Tate.
Moon was not an instant success outside Fien - and then Jones - but he has another opportunity to build a rapport with the Kiwis legend.
"I haven't really worked with Stacey, that's what we're trying to develop now - a bit of a combination," said Moon, who is happy to let Jones navigate the Warriors around Canberra Stadium.
"Ivan wants me to get involved but Stacey controls where we move around the park. I'll just run off him."
Moon has logged game time in each of the Warriors nine matches this season and although he enjoys centre, five-eighth is the role he was contracted to play.
He was relishing the prospect of getting more touches outside Jones, reasoning he was more dangerous "with ball in hand".
Moon's naturally left-footed kicking game remains a work in progress, heaping more responsibility on Jones to keep the Raiders hemmed in their own territory - an assignment the Warriors flunked against a Johnathan Thurston-inspired Cowboys.
Cleary hoped the rejigged halves combination would also provide fullback Wade McKinnon more scope to attack given he is the Warriors most potent attacking weapon.
McKinnon, who missed the bulk of last season with a knee injury, has touched down twice in seven matches though Cleary offered mitigating circumstances.
"He's not getting the ball in the right areas," the coach said, blaming the Jones-Fien axis.
"That's part of the direction issues we've been having."
While Fien has been cast as the scapegoat, Cleary also acknowledged the halves were hamstrung by an error-prone pack that only rarely drive the side into attacking positions.
"Without a doubt we were inaccurate and turned the ball over far too often at the start of the game."
The Warriors completion rate was an unsatisfactory 28 from 45 against the Cowboys while they also conceded the first four penalties of the contest to gift Thurston a wealth of early possession.
Still, the Warriors are only three points outside the top eight and should take solace from the 14th-placed Raiders shipping 46 points against the Melbourne Storm on Monday - a side the Warriors shared a 14-14 stalemate with on Anzac Day.
But Cleary warned victory was not a given.
"It's all about attitude," Cleary said.
"It's a game we have to perform in, no doubt about that. It's time for us to really play well. Everyone's hurting."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/2433616/Moon-happy-as-Fien-fades
 

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