Tamghart Blasts French

[marv]

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/local/Toulouse-v-Halifax-RLFC-Tamghart.5469269.jp


HALIFAX'S Said Tamghart has lit the fuse on a potentially explosive homecoming in Toulouse tomorrow night, saying he believes there is an element of racism in his persistent omission from the French national side.

 

[cumberlandsashes81]

Interesting...

Never seen Tamghart play so I can't comment but France seems reasonably well served by its front-rowers.

Also, there have been a few players of North African origin in the team of recent years?

 

[deluded pom?]

"It is not enough to be born there. They expect you to be like them."

:lol:

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

"It is not enough to be born there. They expect you to be like them."

:lol:

I thought that funny too.

 

[Albert Rosenfeld]

Fakir and Fellous are both Moroccan heritage and have played often for France.

 

[marv]

Fakir and Fellous are both Moroccan heritage and have played often for France.

Tamghart is Algerian, maybe thats his point?

 

[marv]

Interesting...

Never seen Tamghart play so I can't comment but France seems reasonably well served by its front-rowers.

He is a fantastic impact player, but France have always been pretty well off for forwards like you say.

 

[cumberlandsashes81]

Tamghart is Algerian, maybe thats his point?

Having read Camus' The Stranger (well, I read the crib notes to it while at University) I know there's a lot more history in the Algerian-French relationship than with other countries in Northern Africa...

 

[marv]

Having read Camus' The Stranger (well, I read the crib notes to it while at University) I know there's a lot more history in the Algerian-French relationship than with other countries in Northern Africa...

enlighten me............................

 

[cumberlandsashes81]

enlighten me............................

French Colonialism... local terrorism... war for independence... etc. The book is about a French bloke in Algeria who kills an Algerian amongst the first waves of an Algerian independence movement. The colonial authorities are happy to let him off as long as he pleads self-defence... which he doesn't for some reason. The Cure did a song about it "Killing an Arab"...

 

[winnyason]

did he not get done for performance enhancing drugs while at utc?

 

[marv]

French Colonialism... local terrorism... war for independence... etc. The book is about a French bloke in Algeria who kills an Algerian amongst the first waves of an Algerian independence movement. The colonial authorities are happy to let him off as long as he pleads self-defence... which he doesn't for some reason. The Cure did a song about it "Killing an Arab"...

So there is a bit more ill feeling from the Algerian community towards the French than other north africans, there may be a modicum of truth to what he is saying, i dont see it myself but I dont know anything about what its like to live in France as a person of Algerian decent.

 

[marv]

did he not get done for performance enhancing drugs while at utc?

dont know, if true that might have something to do with it?

 

[AlbertRosenfeld]

Tamghart is Algerian, maybe thats his point?

No that is not his point. His point is that he is of Arab heritage, and hence he feels that he is discriminated on that basis. Being from one of the subsets Algerian heritage vs Moroccan heritage is not the issue.

 

[AlbertRosenfeld]

did he not get done for performance enhancing drugs while at utc?

Yes he did.

Unlike the Arab heritage players Jamal Fakir and Adel Fellous, who have never been caught with drugs in their systems, and who have been picked to play for France many times over the years by John Monie.

 

[marv]

No that is not his point. His point is that he is of Arab heritage, and hence he feels that he is discriminated on that basis. Being from one of the subsets Algerian heritage vs Moroccan heritage is not the issue.

Have you asked him this?

 

[deluded pom?]

So there is a bit more ill feeling from the Algerian community towards the French than other north africans, there may be a modicum of truth to what he is saying, i dont see it myself but I dont know anything about what its like to live in France as a person of Algerian decent.

It didn't seem to bother M. Zidane much.

 

[winnyason]

He played nl2 last year that would not help his chances, given the backrow talent that is a valid reason: mounis, fakir, elima, gossard, raguin to name a few plus saudoni can cover backrow.

 

[Albert Rosenfeld]

He played nl2 last year that would not help his chances, given the backrow talent that is a valid reason: mounis, fakir, elima, gossard, raguin to name a few plus saudoni can cover backrow.

Who is saudoni?

 

[Albert Rosenfeld]

Have you asked him this?

Why would one have to ask him?

Try reading his statements, and it will become obvious what he is talking about.

"Without being rude to anyone, France is a racist country and I have never had good contact with the French players.

"It is not enough to be born there. They expect you to be like them. (emphasis added)


Algeria is a nation-state, not a race. Arab is a race and culture, not a nation-state. No mention is made of the specific nationality of being Algerian. It is obvious that race and culture are his grievances, not nationality.