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NRL clubs feeling the pinch

Ridders

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NRL clubs feeling the pinch as poker machine tax hits grants from licensed clubs
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Source: The Daily Telegraph



CONCERNED NRL chief executives fear some Sydney-based clubs could collapse amid revelations that almost $10 million has been hacked from their budgets.

An investigation by The Daily Telegraph has revealed that annual grants from the licensed club industry to the nine Sydney NRL sides they support has been slashed by a third in just five years - from $28.8 million in 2005 to an estimated $19.1 million this year. Senior teams are now desperately feeling the pinch and junior and grassroots competitions have been decimated. The State Government's unpopular poker machine tax has been identified as the major reason behind the stunning reduction in grants from leagues clubs to football clubs.
"It is a major problem for the game. Rugby league could be in a drastic state within two to three years," Souths' chief executive Shane Richardson said last night.

NRL boss David Gallop said clubs were hurting badly. "There have been numerous examples of clubs being forced to drop teams out of junior competitions and cut competitions altogether," he said. "Cuts across the board have impacted on every club. I can definitely say that our footy clubs have been hit hard by the leagues clubs being put into a position where they haven't been able to provide the traditional funding sources." The cuts also come amid an exodus of punters from clubs and a resurgence of gambling in pubs.

St George Illawarra enjoyed a $4.5 million grant in 2007, which has now been reduced to $2.9 million in 2010. The Sharks' $2.5 million grant in 2008 has been pruned to $750,000 in 2010, Parramatta are down from $5 million in 2008 to $3 million and Penrith drop from $6 million in 2004-05 to $3 million this year.

Souths boss Richardson said: "We have to make sure clubs don't collapse but it's a real danger. This $10 million is the tip of the iceberg. The only way clubs will disappear is through natural attrition. "Leagues clubs can't afford to keep putting money in. I have great confidence in the game but rugby league has major financial difficulties. "Hopefully the membership drive will solve some problems, but we need a business plan that doesn't rely on poker machines.
"I've been saying this for four years but no one has listened. It's biting hard."

Wests Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys and Panthers boss Mick Leary also spoke of their fears. "Clubs are facing a difficult challenge. It's not easy," Humphreys said.

Parramatta CEO Paul Osborne said his club was exploring every path to financial security. "This is why membership is important. We are looking at all revenue streams," Osborne said.
The Bundaberg Red Cup was cut from 12 teams to 10 last year and just eight this season.
And last year the Roosters were forced to pull out of the Harold Matthews and S G Ball junior competitions after their leagues club funding dropped from $6 million a year to its current level of between $3-4 million.
The powerful Souths Juniors has even been hit, recording a $6 million loss last year as it tries to comply with the 2007 indoor smoking ban. Latest figures show gaming revenues in clubs have taken another dive, prompting warnings from some operators clubs may soon be unable to provide any rugby league funding.

A spokesman for NSW Treasurer Eric Roozendaal said Clubs NSW agreed to the tax rates through a memorandum of understanding, and that the Government had introduced financial hardships provisions to assist clubs experiencing a decline in gaming revenue.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...m-licensed-clubs/story-e6frexnr-1225830699774
 
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Pj,Rj,Hj

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I'm not going with a "She'll be right" fatalistic attitude but many clubs have not been far off colapse for many years yet they still manage to keep their heads above water. If one or some clubs did go under it would be devastating for hundreds of thousands but give it 20 years, could it be a milestone for a new generational structure where league is healthy, wealthy and powerful. It no doubt hurt many in Qld to see the BRL totally devalued with the emergence of the Broncos much like the WAFL with the West Coast Eagles but you get over it and more money comes into the Code, State Bodies and grass routes than ever before especially under previous structures.
I guess I got a little side tracked but what I mean to ask is if the current structure fatally flawed and a radical remodelling should take place or can it all work under the current structure. My point about the emergence of the Brisbane in the NSWRL and West Coast in the VFL is that as much as people who rather not consider it if your team/club colapses / relegated like Newtown or the BRL team one followed, it is not impossible to adopt a new team (hypothetically Wests and Penrith colapse, but under a new designed competion a new Western Sydney with no links to the past or any other club is formed to pick up the fans).
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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I'm not going with a "She'll be right" fatalistic attitude but many clubs have not been far off colapse for many years yet they still manage to keep their heads above water. If one or some clubs did go under it would be devastating for hundreds of thousands but give it 20 years, could it be a milestone for a new generational structure where league is healthy, wealthy and powerful. It no doubt hurt many in Qld to see the BRL totally devalued with the emergence of the Broncos much like the WAFL with the West Coast Eagles but you get over it and more money comes into the Code, State Bodies and grass routes than ever before especially under previous structures.
I guess I got a little side tracked but what I mean to ask is if the current structure fatally flawed and a radical remodelling should take place or can it all work under the current structure. My point about the emergence of the Brisbane in the NSWRL and West Coast in the VFL is that as much as people who rather not consider it if your team/club colapses / relegated like Newtown or the BRL team one followed, it is not impossible to adopt a new team (hypothetically Wests and Penrith colapse, but under a new designed competion a new Western Sydney with no links to the past or any other club is formed to pick up the fans).

Someone should have thought of that 15 years ago.
 
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Ridders

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So what if it's the Telegraph?

Alot of the quotes in the article come from NRL CEO's so it's not like the DT is just making the issue up.

This should be even more reason for why we need to get as much money as we can from our next TV deal.
 

Noa

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:-({|=

Also had to laugh at the "financial hardships provisions to assist clubs experiencing a decline in gaming revenue." Very ironic.
 

Bluebags1908

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It wouldn't surprise me if this article wasn't timed to provide a boost in season ticket memberships, which isn't a bad thing.

But the answer really is simple - cut a better TV deal next time and direct some of that extra money to the clubs to make up for the shortfall in loss of pokie revenue.
 

Bulldog Force

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So what if it's the Telegraph?

Alot of the quotes in the article come from NRL CEO's so it's not like the DT is just making the issue up.

This should be even more reason for why we need to get as much money as we can from our next TV deal.
Well there you go dude - Noa's post says it all :) they contradicted themselves there lol. Oxymoron usage at its best :lol:
 
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Don't like the fact that clubs are having to drop out of junior comps.

Thats their choice. I'd be surprised if there weren't alternative costs they could take out if they chose differently. Personally I think full participation in the junior comps should be a mandatory prerequisite for NRL participation.

The clubs have had years to plan and implement new revenue streams - too bad, so sad. Rather than having a whinge (again) maybe some of the CEO's should have been doing something other than hoping the govt would back down.
 

_Johnsy

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Says someone who's club is propped up to the tune of $6,000,000 per year minimum (at the expense of all other clubs, as all clubs provide the "product" not just Melbourne, so therefore are they not worthy of funding from News Ltd also?). And will continue to be propped up in years to come, ironic indeed.
 

Glenn

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The declining grants to juniors etc due to poker machine revenue falling is not something new, however News Ltd thinks this is suddenly news worthy again.
 

coach

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Old story, new day.

Totally agree.

For the past couple of years this story has been given a run at around this time of the season. Nothing new mentioned in the article today.

Not hard to workout we are just over a year away from the next NSW election and we all know that this paper loves giving it to the government. This paper will rehash any old story just to rub it in the face of the government.

Interestingly they used Shane Richardson as the main spokesperson of the leagues clubs in the story. Souths are the only Sydney team that doesn't have an operating leagues club.
 

Doug2234

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Dean "Bulldog" Ritchie is a friggin joke.

He pulls this story out once a year pre season.


EDIT - Sorry Coach didnt see your post but yes what you said..
 

coach

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Dean "Bulldog" Ritchie is a friggin joke.

He pulls this story out once a year pre season.


EDIT - Sorry Coach didnt see your post but yes what you said..

Thats fine. Good to see that not everyone is falling for the Telegraph propaganda.
 

Perth Red

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Why are the Leagues clubs cutting junior funding whilst still funding NRL clubs millions $'s? Surely to justify their existence junior clubs should be their priority for funding not a professionally run business.
 

Loudstrat

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F*ck off Sydney hater. Who says they are all cutting junior funding?

I think Easts did. Meaning they save about $20. What others did?
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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Easts were the only club to do it, and because they were then poaching a large amount of Penrith juniors, the Penrith CEO questioned whether the Roosters were fulfilling their licence agreement. Im not actually certain that they did actually cut off their Harold Matts and SG Ball sides. I think it was mentioned but never happend. Not too certain.
 

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