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Gary Freeman tells NRL CEO David Gallop to relocate Sharks to Perth

Feej

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http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,27509375-5018866,00.html

Gary Freeman tells NRL CEO David Gallop to relocate Sharks to Perth
By Christopher Boyd
foxsports.com.au
August 05, 2010
Fox Sports rugby league commentator Gary Freeman has challenged NRL chief executive David Gallop to make a "hard decision" by forcing a Sydney club to relocate to Perth.

"The NRL have got to make a hard decision and say 'we're gonna go to Perth, there's going to be an expansion there', or 'we're gonna go to Adelaide' or 'we'll go the Central Coast'," Freeman declared face to face with Gallop on Fox Sports program NRL on Fox.

"Someone has to move out of Sydney; that's not a job for me; it's a job for you.

When Gallop retorted "who are you going to send?" Freeman, a former New Zealand international captain, continued: "Let's pick the Sharks. I know they might not like it but ... the Perth Sharks - what's wrong with that?

"The other codes have done it to two of their sides - why can't we?"

A hesitant Gallop described the idea of relocating an existing Sydney team - several of which are struggling financially to stay afloat - as "hard work", fearing a backlash from fans who want to identify with a new club built from the ground up.

"Making a move like that with one of your existing teams is going to be hard work," he said.

"You can't do these things in a half-baked way. You need your team living, breathing, part of the community so the local people feel like there is a real connection."

The NRL has been reluctant to speculate on when expansion is likely to happen, with clubs-in-waiting arguing that an expanded competition in 2013 would make for a more attractive television rights package, with the current deal up at the end of 2012.

However Gallop conceded Freeman had made some valid points in looking to take the game back to a state in which the AFL and Super 14 are currently solidified.

"The Western Australian economy is booming at the moment ... great for TV timeslots, the ability to run a game live back into the east coast," Gallop said.

"When we had teams in Perth and Adelaide before, they were victims of the circumstances of the game generally; we had too many teams, there was a limited amount of money.

"One of the things that I've said in Adelaide and in Perth recently, is 'it wasn't just about your team being a failure, it was about what was generally happening in the game at the time.

"Perth has got a lot going for it. I think in about 12 months' time we'll be in a position to look at expansion seriously. Perth are going to be one of the contenders."

But Gallop, who fielded several questions on the program from fans about the possibility of teams in Perth, the Central Coast and Adelaide, said the league had to consider whether to move into previously trialled areas or look for new pastures.

"There is a question that will come up in a year's time. Do you go into your heartland with a new team and shore it up, or do you take a strategic view and go to a new area to grow a new market," Gallop said.

"I would have thought try to do both. Let's look at two teams; and let's look at perhaps one in the heartland.

"We know how strong the game is in Queensland. That area out to the west of Brisbane, the people in Rockhampton are very keen. You've got the Central Coast, you've got Perth - it's a tough decision.

"There is a balance between fishing where the fish are or going out into new waters and seeing if you can attract fish."
 

Eion

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Freeman, a former New Zealand international captain, continued: "Let's pick the Sharks. I know they might not like it but ... the Perth Sharks - what's wrong with that?
Wow. Compelling stuff. You've won me over Gary, with your well thought out and articulate chocolate wheel approach to the future of league.
 

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I saw it , wasn't quite like it sounded .

They were talking about bringing in Perth , Adelaide or central coast . Freeman said if we do that surely a sydney team would have to locate , ( from memory here ) he said "Buldogs , Sharks , Roosters , someone..." Gallop then said it would be hard blah blah blah , Freeman kept up about relocating and Gallop said Ok who , Freeman said well what about the Sharks , Perth Sharks etc .

He never said at any time Cronulla SHOULD be relocated etc

Realistically Freeman is right if they want to bring in other teams , someone is going to have to relocate or be dumped , or else we are going to need two conferences.
 

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He may be a merkin but imo he is right.

I think if we stay we die.

We live in the Shire and most of the kids friends either support the Stains or Dogs, Sharks would be lucky to be 3rd most popular. Seems to be getting worse as well but this may just be becuase of how bad the team is going.

Team is going bad, and realistically don't look like improving next year either and this is reflected in the crowds and thus financial support for the club.

THe question I have though re expansion is where are the players going to come from? There are some very average players at the moment in first grade and they want to find another 25-50 for one or two teams?
 

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How dare he even suggest that? Look no one wants that. We'd much prefer you to remain in the shire to continue on as the NRL's primary financial basket case, with NRL grant advances to pay the bills, poor crowds and notoriously windy wet and miserable saturday night fixtures.
Hell if you moved to Perth or Adelaide, you would start getting good crowds larger corporate support / sponsorship and be able to recruit a better overall squad eventually making the sharks a powerhouse, hell we wouldn't want that ever, would we. I didn't think the relocation of the team would affect too many of you greatly especially judging by your home crowd numbers, it appears none of you go anyway.
 

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How dare he even suggest that? Look no one wants that. We'd much prefer you to remain in the shire to continue on as the NRL's primary financial basket case, with NRL grant advances to pay the bills, poor crowds and notoriously windy wet and miserable saturday night fixtures.
Hell if you moved to Perth or Adelaide, you would start getting good crowds larger corporate support / sponsorship and be able to recruit a better overall squad eventually making the sharks a powerhouse, hell we wouldn't want that ever, would we. I didn't think the relocation of the team would affect too many of you greatly especially judging by your home crowd numbers, it appears none of you go anyway.

how much longer will all the new Dragons fans hang around to watch them fail when it counts?

you dumb fuggers had a great chance this year and then you go and bring an unfit turncoat back into the team at the expense of a perfectly good combo .

Not only that ..next year about 4 of the teams best and toughest players have to leave so you can accomodate the turncoat on a ridiculous million dollar deal.

The only game you have won since he came back was off the brilliance of one of the blokes getting pushed out.

Yeah we're fuggen hopless ...but watching you merkins fug it up every year makes us feel better about own own team.
 
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We have to look at relocation, but i believe it should be to the Sunshine Coast, the ground up their is currently being upgraded, with new grandstand of course it would need to be a 20,000 seater.

The option would be whilst we are be moved thier, we could continue to play the sydney clubs at Cronulla, and interstae teams at Suncorp, this would elivate the short term fix till the ground is ready at sunshine Coast.

To those who say would anyone go to match at Brisbane if team is based in Sunshine Coast look at name of the ANgels in MLB, Los Angeles, they play in Anaheim.

We do need to consider this as option, in long run we could say that we play 2 matches per year at Cronulla or in sydney vs Saints and Manly
 

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He never said at any time Cronulla SHOULD be relocated etc

and i agree.. cronulla should not be relocated..


like any business in financial trouble they should be shut down, and the sharks branding be transferred to new owners in perth..
 

Eion

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He may be a merkin but imo he is right.

I think if we stay we die.

We live in the Shire and most of the kids friends either support the Stains or Dogs, Sharks would be lucky to be 3rd most popular. Seems to be getting worse as well but this may just be becuase of how bad the team is going.

If we have success the local kiddies will jump on board. Hell, I used to go for parra living in Gymea Bay when I was a little'un in the era of grothe, kenny etc. It's got nothing to do with the shire and everything to do with dour, sh!t teams.
 

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We have to look at relocation, but i believe it should be to the Sunshine Coast, the ground up their is currently being upgraded, with new grandstand of course it would need to be a 20,000 seater.

The option would be whilst we are be moved thier, we could continue to play the sydney clubs at Cronulla, and interstae teams at Suncorp, this would elivate the short term fix till the ground is ready at sunshine Coast.

To those who say would anyone go to match at Brisbane if team is based in Sunshine Coast look at name of the ANgels in MLB, Los Angeles, they play in Anaheim.

We do need to consider this as option, in long run we could say that we play 2 matches per year at Cronulla or in sydney vs Saints and Manly

Sunshine coast/ Qld based team would attract more players than relocating to Perth or Adelaide.
 
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Souths should relocate to perth and become the WA Rabbitohs- The Sharks have two options relocate or merge- Relocate the Sharks to Adelaide and they become the SA Sharks. In the future a relocation of a team to Tasmania and to Northern Territory.Also two new teams - Central Coast Bears and another Queensland team

18 teams covering the whole of Australia the tv/radio/internet/pay tv etc should be significant. Also the league needs to set up merchandise places that sell supports gear under licence - the money made then is distributed evenly amongst the clubs and nrl something along the lines of Major League Baseball.
 

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Eion, when do you see some success coming our way? First grade is realistically coming last and the other two grades not much better. Recruitment for next year is one player who has potential and that is about it.

Marshall where will all the players come from for 18 teams? IMO there aren't enough first grade quality players for the existing teams.
 

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St John Bosko Engadine has 800 odd kids alone.

If people got off their arse and went to the game things would improve.
 

Eion

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Eion, when do you see some success coming our way? First grade is realistically coming last and the other two grades not much better. Recruitment for next year is one player who has potential and that is about it.

Marshall where will all the players come from for 18 teams? IMO there aren't enough first grade quality players for the existing teams.
PJ - I wouldn't have a clue. Once you're in a rut it's hard to get out, who knows if we make. Souths managed it, I believe we can too.
 

PJ

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Souths made it because, and imo only because they had a couple of rich guys come in with high profiles and money to spend.

We can do the same if those sort of people came to the club, but none on the horizon.
 

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He may be a merkin but imo he is right.

I think if we stay we die.

We live in the Shire and most of the kids friends either support the Stains or Dogs, Sharks would be lucky to be 3rd most popular. Seems to be getting worse as well but this may just be becuase of how bad the team is going.

Team is going bad, and realistically don't look like improving next year either and this is reflected in the crowds and thus financial support for the club.

THe question I have though re expansion is where are the players going to come from? There are some very average players at the moment in first grade and they want to find another 25-50 for one or two teams?

If we become the Perth Sharks, we may as well be dead, because I know I won't support a relocated team.
 
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I'd prefer the Sharks to stay in the Shire, but I'd also prefer them to relocate than fold.

Let's face it, we're currently struggling on and off the field and from an NRL viewpoint relocating a Sydney team makes good sense on many levels. Brings in new territories while keeping tradition alive and leaving a team for original fans to support.

I'd still support a relocated Sharks. So long as they kept the colours and the Sharks name. Many North Sydney supporters still back the Central Coast Bears. How many Newtown fans do you think would still like to see the Jets getting around in the top grade ?

On the other side of the coin, we could turn it around in a matter of a year or two. Roosters have gone from spooners to favourites in a year with a new coach and a few personnel changes, so that's not beyond the realms of possibility. If we can manage that under Flanagan and get this development sorted to start bringing in the required finance then we're a good thing.

That is, if club management is worth it's salt...
 

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Relocate ST GEORGE it is always said by there supporters that St George is a national Brand so relocate those monkeys, they'll be right at home at Perth.
 

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