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If Canberra win the premiership

Rovelli

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There is no way the Raiders should be called the 'Bradbury' if they won 12 of 13 to take the title. That's some run of form.

Bradbury won his gold because the other skaters fought and knocked each other over. The league equivalent would be two teams getting into a massive punch-up and the injuries and suspensions take their teams out. Or we see another Super League war and teams boycott a Grand Final. In other words, really SFA.
 
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It's a bradbury because all the other teams got knocked out leaving one standing apparently. Watching plenty of different sports, over a long period of time, I'm yet to see or hear of a finals series ending a different way.
 

chrisD

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'Bradbury', 'Clayton' and 'Choke'. All terms used by idiots who have no understanding or appreciation of the game, or for that matter competitive sport in general.

It's all fair and proper to praise a player or a team when they step up when the pressure is on, but it's a lack of understanding or appreciation for the game that leads people to state the opposite when the opposite situation presents itself clearly?

Makes sense, completely.
 

Canard

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Many of those players including Marshall and Prince were not household names at the start of the year, and as usual we were snubbed by SOO selectors completely.

Princey played all three Origin matches in 2004, hardly a "no-name"
 

dice

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I will never rate the 2005 premiership. There was a very clear intent by the NRL to rub out the defensive tactics of the highly successful teams like the Bulldogs and Roosters. They achieved this with the interpretation of the surrender tackle which turned the NRL into a touch footy competition. No surprises Tigers did FA after the speed of the play the ball was slowed down again in 2006.

Kudos to Cowboys for performing so well under both sets of rules in 2004 and 2005.
 

bottle

Coach
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It's all fair and proper to praise a player or a team when they step up when the pressure is on, but it's a lack of understanding or appreciation for the game that leads people to state the opposite when the opposite situation presents itself clearly?

What you're describing is a critique, or analysis of failure to perform. Perfectly valid, and what I'd hope these forums would present more of. Namely sensible, reasoned discussion.

However these terms when used are not that. They are a glib throw away attempt to insult used by people who i have to assume are incapable of understanding the game at anything but the basest level. People incapable of analysis of performance. The same people who buy into, hook , line and sinker, the latest media dribble. There's plenty of 'em, the Telecrap sells a lot of papers. Doesn't mean I have to agree with 'em.
 

Apey

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I will never rate the 2005 premiership. There was a very clear intent by the NRL to rub out the defensive tactics of the highly successful teams like the Bulldogs and Roosters. They achieved this with the interpretation of the surrender tackle which turned the NRL into a touch footy competition. No surprises Tigers did FA after the speed of the play the ball was slowed down again in 2006.

Kudos to Cowboys for performing so well under both sets of rules in 2004 and 2005.

Wow :lol:
 

Mr Angry

Not a Referee
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Canberra will not win.

Then again, Perry won one, perhaps the Canberra half will too.

Na.
 

chrisD

Coach
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Bradbury isn't applicable to League and I don't know what a Clayton means, but a choke can be pretty clearly defined and certainly is applicable to league. Players and teams sometimes fail to perform at or near their best due to pressure, and a choke is an apt description of such a performance.
 
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I will never rate the 2005 premiership. There was a very clear intent by the NRL to rub out the defensive tactics of the highly successful teams like the Bulldogs and Roosters. They achieved this with the interpretation of the surrender tackle which turned the NRL into a touch footy competition. No surprises Tigers did FA after the speed of the play the ball was slowed down again in 2006.

Kudos to Cowboys for performing so well under both sets of rules in 2004 and 2005.

Conversely, you could say that between 2002-2004 the referees allowed teams to interfere in the ruck and slow the speed of the game down inordinately, thus allowing defensive sides to gain the ascendancy.

The fact that the NRL recorded its highest average attendances in 2005 reflects the fans' appreciation for the faster flow of the game and attacking footy that it encouraged.
 

bottle

Coach
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Bradbury isn't applicable to League and I don't know what a Clayton means, but a choke can be pretty clearly defined and certainly is applicable to league. Players and teams sometimes fail to perform at or near their best due to pressure, and a choke is an apt description of such a performance.

There used to be a non alcoholic drink named Claytons (showing my age). The punchline for the ad was 'The drink you have when you're not having a drink'. The term 'Clayton' came to be used to describe a number of things where something is probably a poor imitation of the original, or intended product or outcome. I've seen some dummies refer to this year's premiership as a 'Clayton's' premiership because a team that cheated was denied the opportunity to compete in the end of year festivities. Usually they are supporters of teams with no chance of being there anyway. As I said originally, lack of understanding/appreciation of competitive sport in general.

I agree with you re the validity, or otherwise, of both Bradbury and Choke. No such thing as a Bradbury in this game. The term 'choke' however is used to the point of being ridiculous now. Apparently some tenuous relationship with a team that ran out onto the field almost twenty years ago renders it valid in the eyes of some. I maintain its used in the main by those intending to insult rather than discuss, and those incapable of doing much else in most cases.
 

Mr Angry

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LOL @ dice, well HE does not rank it.\



Bwwwwahahahahha

f**ken wanker, here is a clue, check the books, dickhead.
 

soc123_au

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Conversely, you could say that between 2002-2004 the referees allowed teams to interfere in the ruck and slow the speed of the game down inordinately, thus allowing defensive sides to gain the ascendancy.

The fact that the NRL recorded its highest average attendances in 2005 reflects the fans' appreciation for the faster flow of the game and attacking footy that it encouraged.

Panthers winning it in 03 puts that theory to bed. They were hardly a feared defensive unit. Attack was awsome.
 
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