If Canberra win the premiership

[dice]

Conversely, you could say that between 2002-2004 the referees allowed teams to interfere in the ruck and slow the speed of the game down inordinately, thus allowing defensive sides to gain the ascendancy.

The fact that the NRL recorded its highest average attendances in 2005 reflects the fans' appreciation for the faster flow of the game and attacking footy that it encouraged.

True. My only suggestion is that the teams that were competitive before 2002 were still competitive in 2002 which indicates the rule changes did not massively advantage or disadvantage teams.

I don't mind the NRL trying to improve the game but they way overdid it in 2005. They even acknowledged as much by slowing down the play the ball in 2006. Tigers were the beneficiaries of a temporary rule change and I don't rate their premiership victory.

And I appreciate that unlike the "lol@dice" simpletons that you do actually understand something about rules affecting teams chances.

 

[Jason_(Is_our_King)_Smith]

True. My only suggestion is that the teams that were competitive before 2002 were still competitive in 2002 which indicates the rule changes did not massively advantage or disadvantage teams.

I don't mind the NRL trying to improve the game but they way overdid it in 2005. They even acknowledged as much by slowing down the play the ball in 2006. Tigers were the beneficiaries of a temporary rule change and I don't rate their premiership victory.

And I appreciate that unlike the "lol@dice" simpletons that you do actually understand something about rules affecting teams chances.

Those who didn't like the fast paced game of 2005 are in the minority...that year still holds the record for highest average attendances as Ted points out.. I for one think there's too much holding down allowed presently...particularly when the ball carrier has made a break yet the eventual tackler is still allowed to hold him down. And since when has the second and even third man flop become legal?

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

True. My only suggestion is that the teams that were competitive before 2002 were still competitive in 2002 which indicates the rule changes did not massively advantage or disadvantage teams.

I don't mind the NRL trying to improve the game but they way overdid it in 2005. They even acknowledged as much by slowing down the play the ball in 2006. Tigers were the beneficiaries of a temporary rule change and I don't rate their premiership victory.

And I appreciate that unlike the "lol@dice" simpletons that you do actually understand something about rules affecting teams chances.

You're digging yourself a hole here.

The game of Rugby League has changed since it began, sometimes in a minor way, sometimes in a major way.

Should each and every premiership won after a rule change or interpretation change be downgraded?

http://www.rl1908.com/History/rules.htm

That'll clear out nearly all of them.

Stop talking bollocks.

 

[TheFrog]

if the raiders win, they deserve to be premiers as did the tigers in '05.

cheating aside, every other grand final winner has been a worthy champion.

If Canberra win the GF they will be worthy premiers, but I would not put Monopoly money on them.

They have won 6 in a row, very good, but the last two have been against seriously depleted teams and both times they only just fell over the line.

They were in serious danger of defeat last Saturday in the last 10 min s or so but lucky for them the Panthers could not hold the ball during this time so the latter stages were played in the Penrith quarter.

Certainly they had the better of general play in this game, but still it was four tries each, against a side that lost both its second rowers. They bombed at least 3 tries in the second half. Their opponents took every opportunity that came to them.

Canberra face another injury ravaged side this week. Surely the gods of RL are smiling on them.

Canberra must know their luck will run out sometime. A St George side that gives nothing away, at pretty much full strength, will show the Raiders where they really stand in the scheme of things.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

If Canberra win the GF they will be worthy premiers, but I would not put Monopoly money on them.

They have won 6 in a row, very good, but the last two have been against seriously depleted teams and both times they only just fell over the line.

They were in serious danger of defeat last Saturday in the last 10 min s or so but lucky for them the Panthers could not hold the ball during this time so the latter stages were played in the Penrith quarter.

Certainly they had the better of general play in this game, but still it was four tries each, against a side that lost both its second rowers. They bombed at least 3 tries in the second half. Their opponents took every opportunity that came to them.

Canberra face another injury ravaged side this week. Surely the gods of RL are smiling on them.

Canberra must know their luck will run out sometime. A St George side that gives nothing away, at pretty much full strength, will show the Raiders where they really stand in the scheme of things.

:lol: :lol:

Stain have already won the premiership in their minds

 

[VictorTheViking]

If Canberra win the GF they will be worthy premiers, but I would not put Monopoly money on them.

They have won 6 in a row, very good, but the last two have been against seriously depleted teams and both times they only just fell over the line.

They were in serious danger of defeat last Saturday in the last 10 min s or so but lucky for them the Panthers could not hold the ball during this time so the latter stages were played in the Penrith quarter.

Certainly they had the better of general play in this game, but still it was four tries each, against a side that lost both its second rowers. They bombed at least 3 tries in the second half. Their opponents took every opportunity that came to them.

Canberra face another injury ravaged side this week. Surely the gods of RL are smiling on them.

Canberra must know their luck will run out sometime. A St George side that gives nothing away, at pretty much full strength, will show the Raiders where they really stand in the scheme of things.

How do you figure this? Brisbane were missing lockyer and hodges (with wallace basically playing with one arm) and Penrith were missing...Coote and Seventycentsalitre at the start of the game (?)

Hardly severely depleting as your trying to point out

 

[Pete Cash]

His point is that he is sad the Raiders beat the Panthers on the weekend.

If by some stroke of good fortune the Raiders win the premiership the ONLY thing one could say is that our bogeyside wasn't in the 8. On the otherhand they are scummy cheats

But I am pretty sure the poor form against the Storm extended well before the cheating.

 

[Jason_(Is_our_King)_Smith]

And we were missing Mogg, Tongue and Miller.

 

[LESStar58]

They are too hideous to look at and scare little kids and females.

Kind of like your avatar, eh mate?

"Naw, naw. Wurhmens likes it!"

 

[RHCP]

If it does happen, there's always going to be an asterisk named the Melbourne Storm for those who want to cheapen the victory. The Raiders are essentially the 9th placed side. If it wasn't for the Storm breaking the cap (or getting caught) then Canberra would'nt be contesting finals football, and that's always going to be brought up by bitter fans who want to detract from the achievement, if Canberra go all the way.

In my opinion, whoever is the better side on the day is deserved of being the Premiers. The whole concept of a 'Bradbury' Premiership is idiotic.

 

[TheFrog]

His point is that he is sad the Raiders beat the Panthers on the weekend.

Although the above is also correct, my point was that the Raiders while beating weakened sides, don't convince me they are a true threat. Others may disagree, that is why we have forums like this.

Take Lockyer out of the Broncos, they are rudderless.

Panthers without Civo and Coote, but lost 2 more during the game. Pritchard really played very little part. Waterhouse off early in the second half. 2 man bench. Canberra beat a side with these issues by a single conversion. Not Dragon-slaying form, I'm sorry. Not that they didn't play well, but they played like millionaires. With six wins in a row, they are due for a loss.

 

[SET2JT]

If it does happen, there's always going to be an asterisk named the Melbourne Storm for those who want to cheapen the victory. The Raiders are essentially the 9th placed side. If it wasn't for the Storm breaking the cap (or getting caught) then Canberra would'nt be contesting finals football, and that's always going to be brought up by bitter fans who want to detract from the achievement, if Canberra go all the way.

In my opinion, whoever is the better side on the day is deserved of being the Premiers. The whole concept of a 'Bradbury' Premiership is idiotic.

Canberra finished 7th so if Melb were there they would have finished 8th.

 

[Boganater]

If Canberra win the GF they will be worthy premiers, but I would not put Monopoly money on them.

They have won 6 in a row, very good, but the last two have been against seriously depleted teams and both times they only just fell over the line.

They were in serious danger of defeat last Saturday in the last 10 min s or so but lucky for them the Panthers could not hold the ball during this time so the latter stages were played in the Penrith quarter.

Certainly they had the better of general play in this game, but still it was four tries each, against a side that lost both its second rowers. They bombed at least 3 tries in the second half. Their opponents took every opportunity that came to them.

Canberra face another injury ravaged side this week. Surely the gods of RL are smiling on them.

Canberra must know their luck will run out sometime. A St George side that gives nothing away, at pretty much full strength, will show the Raiders where they really stand in the scheme of things.

You truly are a flogger, Canberra have achieved great things this season with a bunch of young blokes without any of the wank factor of St George and all you can do is piss on their parade.
They deserve to be there just accept it. They beat a team coming second on their home turf and they should have won by more if the video ref had a a clue.

If there are a bunch of fans who should be keeping comments to themselves it's the Fagons fans, after countless years of failure and under achievement they should know better than to count their chickens.

 

[RHCP]

#-o

Well I've just made myself look stupid, although the Melbourne Storm will still be an asterisk to the eventual Premiers.

 

[Pete Cash]

The raiders finished 7th not 8th.

Of course the Dragons would be the favourite. They are the minor premiers but I think we could give them a good shake because not every side is identical. I suspect the reason the Dragons have struggled against the Raiders even over the last two years when the Dragons have been the best side over the competition is in the forwards.

Nobody is getting too far ahead of themselves. It is good to be in the position we are in. In good form and with no real injuries.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

Not Dragon-slaying form, I'm sorry

:lol:

 

[TheFrog]

They deserve to be there just accept it. They beat a team coming second on their home turf and they should have won by more if the video ref had a a clue.

He does have a clue. Perfectly correct decision. I suggest you check the rules, as well as what has already been posted. And yes they deserve to be there. I never said they didn't. I just said I would not back them to win the comp, and that I think they will not be able to foot it with St George if they get that far.

 

[icewind]

tbh, the last few weeks for us was basically two back rowers, a half back unable to step up, and a bunch of schoolkids.

Without Lockyer we were nothing, his experience alone was worth 4 or 5 players.

 

[Boganater]

He does have a clue. Perfectly correct decision. I suggest you check the rules, as well as what has already been posted. And yes they deserve to be there. I never said they didn't. I just said I would not back them to win the comp, and that I think they will not be able to foot it with St George if they get that far.

You're full of sh*t buddy just because you come across like you're a know all doesn't mean that you do.
Why would I need to check what has been posted before I HAVE A PAIR OF EYES as if checking what other people with NFI like you have said will change my mind.
I know the rules and you have to change your line or deliberately make contact with your opponent to hinder their movement or take away their opportunity to defend, Nathan Smith took the decoy runner in defense then took a dive. Rugby League is a hard game played buy tough people not soccer players.
St George have been favourites in just about every finals game they have played in the last 7-8 years and we all know just how well they have gone in finals. So I wouldn't get too excited just yet.

 

[Pete Cash]

tbh, the last few weeks for us was basically two back rowers, a half back unable to step up, and a bunch of schoolkids.

Without Lockyer we were nothing, his experience alone was worth 4 or 5 players.

The Raiders don't have the best record at Lang park. Even when the side is running well. Also the Raiders are hardly the most experienced side around either.