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Dragons celebration turns deadly

Danish

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why did we have a minutes silence for that dead cop a few weeks ago :?


Are you seriously comparing a police officer being killed enforcing the law with some drop kick being killed fighting with police and security?


Have you read any actual news stories? He wasn't denied entry, he was in the beer garden already, and it appears that there was no brawl, just too many people crowded into one spot and a shove or something.

You may believe that the police are all flawless angels and everyone they even send a nasty look at it is a dropkick and a criminal, but in reality police are capable of making poor decisions which can, in extreme cases like this one, needlessly cost someones life. They need to be held properly accountable for that, and the victims deserve better than to be dismissed as clear wrongdoers and deserving idiots.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/there-was...ts-twins-life-20101004-163lo.html?autostart=1

And cupid, he wasn't armed with anything.


The other arrested drop kicks say they didn't do anything wrong... compelling stuff.
 

Timmah

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Are you seriously comparing a police officer being killed enforcing the law with some drop kick being killed fighting with police and security?

Privy to the police report are you? How the f**k would you know if they are the facts?
 

dollyhands

Juniors
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Obvious troll is obvious, please no one reply to these pieces of sh*t and give them the reactions they want.
Trolling when i first mentioned the dragon fan bit, but i think the rest rings true. And these tossers are at all clubs and in most groups of society and are allowed to run riot just because they want to quell their anger needs
 

Danish

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Privy to the police report are you? How the f**k would you know if they are the facts?


I'm privy to the police's media release, which states that there was a fight, security got involved in trying to break it up and needed police assistance, who then had to use batons' capsicum spray and tasers to subdue 3 men.


Do you have any reason to assume the police are at fault here, or are lying in their media release?
 

Doga

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The police's management of Dragons fans outside the stadium has been poor at best in the last fortnight, in the public, non-roadway areas, the Army were waving their flags celebrating after the game, and the police, for no reason other than to cause trouble, slowly drive a patrol car into the crowd in a remarkably idiotic effort to break the crowd up.

That group is celebrating, not brawling, and driving a vehicle through the group is only going to incense them and inflame a non-event into a story. They really need better crowd management skills. That celebration would've disintegrated on its own ffs.

Perhaps you should pass on some suggestions to the NSW Police force. You are obviously an expert.
 
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I'm privy to the police's media release, which states that there was a fight, security got involved in trying to break it up and needed police assistance, who then had to use batons' capsicum spray and tasers to subdue 3 men.


Do you have any reason to assume the police are at fault here, or are lying in their media release?


Given there is CCTV footage is going to be hard for them to lie about anything , that said the NSW police force do have a history of cover ups.

So until there is an independent investigation into this mans death we cant know either way.

But I would take any report from the police themselves with a massive grain of salt.
 

Ulysseus

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Perhaps you should pass on some suggestions to the NSW Police force.

It couldn't hurt considering a big chunk of them are useless undersized, worthless, chicken sh*t, tossers with no morals who will happily take a sh*tty bribe of a few hundred bucks to look the other way.
I have personally heard a police officer instruct another individual to forget that a certain incident ever occurred because they were not going to pursue a certain biker organisation.
I have also had one tell me to take the law into my own hands and for a flat fee nothing would ever become of it.

As for the "was he or wasn't he tasered while hand cuffed" argument, it goes both ways:

DIDN'T HAPPEN
Lack of credible evidence and witness's plays into police hands they didn't do it.
They, like criminals, are entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process with regard to their use of force in this instance.
Many statements, many different stories.

IT HAPPENED
Showing that they may have tasered the bloke was the odd occurrence of the top brass getting in the media f**king pronto to deny it, that's not a good look. :?
Footage of a female cop spraying a bloke a few years ago at a cricket match and then running away kind of adds fuel to the fire that this kind of behavior is not beyond many of them.
 

Danish

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Even if he were handcuffed, that does not automatically make him a non-threat.

Last I checked kicking can cause plenty of damage, and I'd hate to see a cop get a boot to the face or chest when alternatives to controlling a resisting suspect are available
 

Rexxy

Coach
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Look on the bright side, one less dragon fan. And what would you do if you were a cop and seen a dragons fan after a GF win??? You would wanna beat the sh*t out of him a give him a good tasering. You can't blame the cop for what comes natural

Just bumping this so the smh can see it.....
 

Colonel Sanders

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Since roosters are bagging dead dragons fans
its fair game from now on

dont you think todd carney's dad was happy he was dead on sunday saving him from seeing his son choke like that?

:sarcasm:
 

Willow

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It's extraordinary that anyone can claim to know what happened, when 1.) it only happened yesterday, 2.) you weren't there, and 3.) the investigation into the incident has barely started.

The bottom line is that we don't know enough to blame anyone, the poilce or the bloke who died. The tragedy is that these type of incidents can usually be avoided, but hindsight offers very little to the family.

There are no winners here, perhaps that's being forgotten by a few posters in this thread.
 

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