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Queensland cheating again

adamkungl

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What Didgi said. Let them choose, but they must have a solid basis for that choice, either birth or minimum 8 years spent in that state. Imo scrap the junior footy rule altogther. It's rubbish.
 

Slackboy72

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What Didgi said. Let them choose, but they must have a solid basis for that choice, either birth or minimum 8 years spent in that state. Imo scrap the junior footy rule altogther. It's rubbish.

There has to be a case for self identification though.
Take Jason Nightingale. Born and bred in the parish (St George) but to Kiwi parents. Played all his junior footy in NSW. He identifies himself as a NZ'er through heritage even though he doesn't have an uccent (accent).

I think that's fair enough though I would love to see him in a NSW jumper.
 

johns_reds

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Its another one of the ones that plays senior school boy footy in NSW, then got a scholarship in QLD for a season or 2 thus miraculously making him a maroon.

Kind of geniused that a bloke who spent a maximum of around 18 months in QLD could be considered a QLDer

He spent 8 years in qld
 
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Desert Qlder

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Goodness gracious there are some intensely stupid roaches, Carr and Stuart being high amongst them.

Had to laugh a Stuarts comments saying that he told Kennedy be careful what he says. Well how do you like that article Ricky? That's Martin Kennedy's way of telling you to shove your suggestion up your arse.

Got to give it to NSW, they're always giving us good reason to belt sh*t out of them.
 

Zigwaa

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Who care's, the guy's a tard. It's the same tard who tried to catch a ball with his face after a kick-off a few seasons ago.
 

GB!

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can we re-name the thread title to: NSW sooking again?

nobody wants to play for your sh*tty state....lol:cool:
 

isaiah

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I honestly don't care if he plays for NSW or Queensland. What I care about is making the rules clear, transparent and with no ambiguity. If that means NSW misses out on the next Johns, or Queensland misses out on the next Lewis, so be it. This is a start to what I want to see:
  • The first selection rule, and the overriding rule, is where you are born. You are born in Lismore you play for NSW. If you are born in Cairns you play for Queensland. Simple.
  • The second rule is if you are born outside of NSW or QLD, it comes down to the first junior club you play for.
  • Players MUST declare their eligibility when they first come into lower grades, which is cross-referenced with their club history and place of birth. Both the NSWRL, QRL and ARL must sign off on each player.
  • Once declared, this is placed on a publicly available database for scrutiny. It's entirely transparent so we don't have situations like this and allows for the public to appeal against any player who they know is lying i.e. if someone wants to fudge their records, the public can contact the relevant person and have a chance to prove legitimacy
In the end, it's always the first rule.

so, peter sterling should have played for qld?
 

Knightmare

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No surprise to see all the usual suspects going 'Haha NSW bitches sooking again' etc etc. What you may not realise is that for every player Qld 'adopts', it costs a born and bred Qlder the chance to recognise his dream of playing for his state. There is something terribly wrong with the Origin concept if a NSW born and bred player, who wears Maroon on a few piddling technicalities (that and the fact they don't have a soul) gets into the team and it means a talented young player who is as Qld as Bundy Rum, bananas, XXXX and money in paper bags to government officials, misses out. Might as well change their name from Queensland Maroons to XXXX Dream team!
 

andrew057

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No surprise to see all the usual suspects going 'Haha NSW bitches sooking again' etc etc. What you may not realise is that for every player Qld 'adopts', it costs a born and bred Qlder the chance to recognise his dream of playing for his state. There is something terribly wrong with the Origin concept if a NSW born and bred player, who wears Maroon on a few piddling technicalities (that and the fact they don't have a soul) gets into the team and it means a talented young player who is as Qld as Bundy Rum, bananas, XXXX and money in paper bags to government officials, misses out. Might as well change their name from Queensland Maroons to XXXX Dream team!

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I think theyre waving to you Knightmare.
 

Didgi

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I don't give a f**k if the player was born on Mars, if he played his first junior footy in Queensland he's eligible for QLD, it doesn't matter where they're born.
 

Ram Man

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/maroons-in-a-state-of-denial/story-e6frexnr-1226034271134

THEY form one of Queensland's greatest all-time teams. Stunning backs, tough forwards, a brutal interchange bench.
In all, they played 183 Origin matches for their beloved Maroons.There is just one problem though - none of them is a Queenslander. They are all ring-ins.This composite team categorically shows Queensland's obsession with pinching players from outside the Sunshine State.

And the trend continued this week with Queensland trying to pinch Lismore-born Sydney Roosters prop Martin Kennedy, an emerging Origin star.

Kennedy has spent 14 of 22 years in NSW but says he wants to represent the Maroons.

The Daily Telegraph today lifts the lid on the Maroons' darkest secret - their best players hail from around the rugby league world, places like Auckland, Korolevu, Rabaul, Bowraville, Caringbah, Kempsey, Suva, Tenterfield, Minto, Camperdown, Auburn and Christchurch.

Anywhere but Brisbane, Rockhampton or Townsville.

"They are thieves in the night," stormed NSW legend Benny Elias. "And they blatantly do it in front of our faces. The Queenslanders would cheat, lie and steal to win an Origin series. They just don't care. They sell their scruples to win a series over NSW. Unbelievable.

"Origin means more to them than a state election, it means more to them than anything. They talk about their Queensland passion and they have had some great players over the years. But a lot of them were born outside Queensland."
Former NSW prop Steve Roach was also astounded when shown Queensland's "anti-Origin" team.

"If you go into their air space you are a Queenslander," Roach said.

"You only have to fly over Brisbane and they want you to play for them.

"Some of the players in that team come from New Zealand and Papua New Guinea."

Two of the most controversial selections are star backs Israel Folau and Greg Inglis.

Folau was born in Minto, in southwestern Sydney, while Inglis hails from Bowraville on the NSW North Coast.

Brad Thorn, Tonie Carroll and Karmichael Hunt were all Queensland legends - yet they were all born in New Zealand.

Neville Costigan and Adrian Lam, two highly successful Maroons over the past 15 years, were actually born in Rabaul in Papua New Guinea.

"They keep taking our players," said one-well placed NSW source.

"I can't believe the Martin Kennedy situation. Good luck to Martin if he wants to play for Queensland, but he was still born and raised in NSW."

Folau, Mat Rogers, Julian O'Neill, Sam Thaiday, Scott Sattler and Michael Crocker were all born in Sydney.

However, one high-profile NSW player had this to say when about the Queensland "anti-Origin" squad.

"Please don't give Queensland too much ammunition by bagging them."
1. Karmichael Hunt - AUCKLAND, NZ. 2. Lote Tuqiri - KOROLEVU, FIJI. 3. Greg Inglis - BOWRAVILLE, NSW. 4 Mat Rogers - CARINGBAH, NSW. 5. Israel Folau - SYDNEY, NSW. 6. Julian O'Neill - SYDNEY, NSW. 7. Adrian Lam - RABAUL, PNG. 8. Petero Civoniceva - SUVA, FIJI. 9. Wayne Bartrim - KEMPSEY, NSW. 10. Craig Smith - KAITAIA, NZ. 11. Neville Costigan - RABAUL, PNG. 12. Sam Thaiday - SYDNEY, NSW. 13. Billy Moore - TENTERFIELD, NSW. INTERCHANGE: 14. Scott Sattler - CAMPERDOWN, NSW. 15. Michael Crocker - AUBURN, NSW. 16. Brad Thorn - MOSGIEL, NZ. 17. Tonie Carroll - CHRISTCHURCH, NZ.


Nothing new from QLD...slight error in reporting though, obviously it doesnt go off where you were born but a fair few of the guys mentioned above, played their first senior footy game in either NSW or elsewhere other than QLD
 

Jason Maher

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I'm sure there's been a few the other way. Steve Rogers and Peter Sterling being the most obvious. The ones born elsewhere don't bother me. The ones currently playing test football for another country do (Carroll, Lam). As do the ones which qualify by the stupid "first senior game" rule for NSW (Inglis).

Honestly there are 2, and only 2, ways to clear up this sh*t once and for all so we don't get it trotted out every bloody year. Change the rule to either where you were born, or my preferred option, let the player represent whichever state they choose (with the stipulation that you can't switch at a later date). Also, playing test football for another country should mean automatic inelligibility, even though I have always liked the idea of NRL players turning out for developing countries to which they have some sort of link.

By the by, is it any wonder that cutie and Folau, after turning traitor to play for Queensland, turned traitor again to play AFL?
 
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