Extended contract offer to Kearney

[Mr Pmatta]

I agree - the 3P apologists are out in force today.

How dare we question the re-signing of a rookie coach until 2059 midway through his first (and so far largely unsuccessful) season?

x1

 

[Wise Old Eel]

Do we have any right to? Let's see....

* Tahu sooks off;
* Guru retires;
* Poore's been injured for an eternity;
* MK for a while suffered a long-term injury...

This isn't exactly the same squad as 2010. Tahu and Guru are MASSIVE losses in themselves. How can you reasonably expect a higher finish given the fact we have an obviously weaker squad?

OK...so, again, why extend his contract? Anyone can promise the world and provide a "plan" for the future. It's delivering on it that counts. All I am saying is that we do not (IMO) appear to have any improvement on last season and this article hints that we are ready to install this unproven rookie coach as the messiah!!

Once again, the 3P/Kearney apologists are out in force. Need I remind you that Daniel Anderson too inheritated a team he didn't choose - one, I might add never even looked like making the 8 the year before he took over - but he banded them together to make the GF. Kearney may well go on to do the same thing, I hope he does. But at this point, he has achieved NOTHING. So why all this talk about contract extensions??? It is lunacy. Surely, you can see this?

WOE

 

[Wise Old Eel]

Adam Dykes? Michael Vella in his latter years? Aaron Cannings? These are all blokes who didn't always give 100% on the field.

As for the Sandow comment, there were no "top line" halfbacks available in 2012. But I suppose that you would have rathered we kept Robson and McGuire/Mortimer/Humble as our halves for 2012, instead of signing a 22 year old halfback who could be anything?

So, let me get this right. You are saying, that lack of ability is the same thing as lack of effort? Both Dykes and Vella were not world beaters but both of them played their hearts out for Parra while they were here. Cannings, on the other hand, was always injured it seems. You may have a point there. Anyway, even if all THREE of the players you named were guilty of what you believe they were, my statement still holds water:
"The vast majority of players to wear the blue and gold have always - & always will - give their best."

As far as the Sando comment goes, twisting my words appears the only way you have to win a debate. All I said was that he was not the BIG NAME that 3P want us all to believe he is. I never mentioned Robson, McGuire, Mortimer or Humble.

Have a nice day.
WOE

 

[Wise Old Eel]

We've gone over this 1000 times - and some people on here hate hearing it - but the board quite deliberately sabotaged DA from day one. They wanted him gone from day one. Unfortunately reaching a grand final forced them to put their plans on the back-burner.

SK, on the other hand, is their man and I can assure you he will not be held to the same 'standards' by the board as DA was.

Having said that, SK may well prove to be a good coach. Hopefully he does. He is only six months into his tenure so it's far too early to tell.

I am of the same opinion regarding Anderson. One day, the real facts may come out - with any luck. Until then, we have to suffer the spin that is 3P and get behind the current coach and team.

Go the Eels!
WOE

 

[caylo]

OK...so why extend his contract then? Anyone can promise the world and deliver a "plan" for the future. It's delivering on it that counts. All I am saying is that we do not (IMO) appear to have any improvement on last season and this article hints that we are ready to install this unproven coach rookie coach as the messiah!!

Once again, the 3P/Kearney apologists are out in force. Need I remind you that Daniel Anderson too inheritated a team he didn't choose - one, I might add the never even looked like making the 8 the year before he took over - but he banded them together to make the GF. Kearney may well go on to do the same thing, I hope he does. But at this point, he has achieved NOTHING. So why this talk about contract extensions??? It is lunacy. Surely, you can see this?

WOE

I want to say first that I was a big Anderson fan. Secondly I was very critical of how w defended early on and thought we back peddled in a big was early on in a defensive note BUT:

I think Kearney has been very good with our forwards and they have stepped up a gear. Robson and MK has performed better this year then ever before and has been confident enough to run the show.

While we are struggling our defense have improved out of sight, our team looks organized and understand their role and there seems to be good team harmony and with most players playing their role. We don't have the squad to compete every week but Kearney has been good and has a long term plan.

People also complain about our recruitment, we have purchased better then any club with probably the exception of the titans. We have signed two quality halves and have picked up players like E.Tonga who add depth at least.

 

[Stagger eel]

Death ride? Is that what you think? Or is it simply what you tell yourself in order to ignore the perfectly acceptable criticisms of 3P?

3P?? Oh you mean the blokes that have just been voted in, ffs! I couldn't a shit about who our directors are, I've always supported every decision the board at the time made and will continue to do so, not much has changed from this black duck in 35 years!

 

[HevyDevy]

I am of the same opinion regarding Anderson. One day, the real facts may come out - with any luck. Until then, we have to suffer the spin that is 3P and get behind the current coach and team.

Go the Eels!
WOE

I'm well aware of certain facts and the actions of some board members at times last year beggars belief. But that's not for me to comment on publicly.

 

[HevyDevy]

3P?? Oh you mean the blokes that have just been voted in, ffs! I couldn't a shit about who our directors are, I've always supported every decision the board at the time made and will continue to do so, not much has changed from this black duck in 35 years!

That's just plain silly Stagger. I can understand supporting your team no matter what, but the board? Wow.

 

[HevyDevy]

While we are struggling our defense have improved out of sight, our team looks organized and understand their role and there seems to be good team harmony and with most players playing their role. We don't have the squad to compete every week but Kearney has been good and has a long term plan.

Really?

2010 after 16 rounds - 222 pts against
2011 after 16 rounds - 325 pts against

Yep, we're going great guns ...

 

[Wise Old Eel]

I'm well aware of certain facts and the actions of some board members at times last year beggars belief. But that's not for me to comment on publicly.

Fair enough.

WOE

 

[parra-matters]

the great wayne bennett and jack gibson couldn't get this squad we have to the top 4, take it easy on SK please. We have a squad that has about 10 players that wouldn't be playing NRL at any other club, SK has done well with what was left for him.

 

[El Diablo]

I am of the same opinion regarding Anderson. One day, the real facts may come out - with any luck. Until then, we have to suffer the spin that is 3P and get behind the current coach and team.

Go the Eels!
WOE

if what 3P put out about Anderson wasn't true after the review then why didn't he sue?

1 of the 3 who did the review wasn't a 3P man either http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...cy-board-meeting/story-e6frexnr-1225929647804

His sacking follows an internal review conducted by CEO Paul Osborne and board members Geoff Gerard and Glenn Duncan, who is also chief executive of the club's major sponsor Pirtek.

 

[spartan2153]

I ain't a fan of the board & it is well known but ffs wait till next year. That is when he will show if he has something to offer. He has had a open cheque book & it will truly be his team.

 

[HevyDevy]

the great wayne bennett and jack gibson couldn't get this squad we have to the top 4, take it easy on SK please. We have a squad that has about 10 players that wouldn't be playing NRL at any other club, SK has done well with what was left for him.

Nobody is having a go at SK mate, just saying it's a bit early to be locking him up for so long.

And yes, it does highlight extreme hypocrisy from the board although that should come as no surprise.

 

[Kornstar]

the great wayne bennett and jack gibson couldn't get this squad we have to the top 4, take it easy on SK please. We have a squad that has about 10 players that wouldn't be playing NRL at any other club, SK has done well with what was left for him.

That is very easy to say when you know it is not possible for either 2 to even try.

Wayne Bennett made an instant impact at the Dragons, he made Hunt and Merrin into seasoned professionals from round 1! Darius Boyd into a world class fullback, Soward an origin player and others too!

The squad he took over was far from their best squad of the previous failed premiership years.

The Dragons came 7th in 2008, 1st in 2009 & 2010, which years did Bennett coach them? I'll give you a tip, it wasn't 2008!!!

 

[Eels Dude]

the great wayne bennett and jack gibson couldn't get this squad we have to the top 4, take it easy on SK please. We have a squad that has about 10 players that wouldn't be playing NRL at any other club, SK has done well with what was left for him.

No one is questioning what he can do with this squad... but why offer a contract extension now. Let's see what he can do with his own squad next year and if he performs with that maybe he deserves a contract extension. But not prior.

 

[Eels Dude]

if what 3P put out about Anderson wasn't true after the review then why didn't he sue?

1 of the 3 who did the review wasn't a 3P man either http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...cy-board-meeting/story-e6frexnr-1225929647804

I'm not going to go into whether it was true or not. But you'd think there would be some confidentiality clauses embedded into his termination payout.

 

[Bazal]

Anderson took a pretty average side to a Grand Final, started clearing out deadwood during a bad time in terms of player availability, and got the arse for failing to make the finals (supposedly)

Kearney has inherited a half built side, got it absolutely nowhere, but has managed to sign a few good players in a time where a lot more are on the market....so he deserves another 5 years? What a laugh...he has three years to prove himself, the smart thing to do would be to see how he goes over that time and then extend him if he does well. It smacks of hypocrisy to sign him on for longer when he has dine even less than Anderson did with the side, and really only has recruitment over him...even then we didn't see what Anderson would have done with quite a few actual good players on the market like there are this season. I'm not a conspiracy nut like some on here are....but this is not helping the idea that there was an agenda at work behind Andersons sacking...

 

[HevyDevy]

Anderson took a pretty average side to a Grand Final, started clearing out deadwood during a bad time in terms of player availability, and got the arse for failing to make the finals (supposedly)

Kearney has inherited a half built side, got it absolutely nowhere, but has managed to sign a few good players in a time where a lot more are on the market....so he deserves another 5 years? What a laugh...he has three years to prove himself, the smart thing to do would be to see how he goes over that time and then extend him if he does well. It smacks of hypocrisy to sign him on for longer when he has dine even less than Anderson did with the side, and really only has recruitment over him...even then we didn't see what Anderson would have done with quite a few actual good players on the market like there are this season. I'm not a conspiracy nut like some on here are....but this is not helping the idea that there was an agenda at work behind Andersons sacking...

Agree completely mate, although the 'agenda' isn't in dispute. They most certainly had one.

Anyway, that's all in the past now but as you say, surely they would let SK see out his three years and then make an assessment then...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We've gone over this 1000 times - and some people on here hate hearing it - but the board quite deliberately sabotaged DA from day one.

Yeah they probably didn't want a good coach at the club because they know they're more likely to keep their jobs if they sign a shit one. :roll: