Short term success is impossible... but in 2009 we were only beaten the grand final by an illegal squad, and have been shit ever since. Wouldn't that have been short term success?
The salary cap makes short term success more likely to be the name of the game these days. Both 2005 grand finalists missed the 8 the next year (and we as 2005 minor premiers only scraped into 8th) - more examples of this "impossible" short term success :lol:.
He (and a couple of others) have obviously bought the "we've got a plan" spin as well...
Oh, I forgot, it's "death-riding" to even question whether things are truly heading in the right direction.
Pretty sure there are some forum members, who are associated with the board some way.
Always defending them, and talking them up.
Short term success is impossible... but in 2009 we were only beaten the grand final by an illegal squad
and have been shit ever since.
Wouldn't that have been short term success?
The salary cap makes short term success more likely to be the name of the game these days.
Both 2005 grand finalists missed the 8 the next year (and we as 2005 minor premiers only scraped into 8th) - more examples of this "impossible" short term success :lol:.
To add to that all the four preliminary finalists from 2009 missed the semis in 2010. Not just us.
And do you believe we're headed for years of success?
Yes I've certainly been told that I'm death-riding the team because I question the motives and actions of our board.
Of course I do. As much as a Sydney club is able to be successful year after year.
Really?
2010 after 16 rounds - 222 pts against
2011 after 16 rounds - 325 pts against
Yep, we're going great guns ...
Secondly I was very critical of how we defended early on and thought we back peddled
While we are struggling our defense have improved out of sigh
So do you think we're going to make the finals 7 straight seasons in a row like Manly will achieve this year?
Or perhaps win back to back minor premierships, and possible a third like the Dragons can achieve.
If so what are your reasons for thinking this?
go back and read the post, when you take something out of context its easy to be critical.
I take exception to comments like that. The vast majority of players to wear the blue and gold have always - & always will - give their best. They are playing no "tougher" than last year. Anyone who says any different is kidding themselves and blinded by the spin doctoring this current mob does so well.
We are currently a struggling club on the field as well as one who cannot seem to attract any topline players. Sando was a good buy but he is hardly topline and we [reportedly] paid way too much for him.
WOE
So short term success isn't success unless you judge a team "deserved it". OK.Scraped into 8th and then rode our momentum.
Which proves 2009 was sheer dumb luck. If we had've been good last year you could say we deserved 2009.
But we didn't.
The point is it wasn't. Considering how bad we were last year it would've been a joke if we'd won in '09.
I think now you're just being argumentative because you're bored. You claimed short-term success is impossible... I gave examples of short term success being teams that have been grand-finalists or minor premiers in one year that seemed to come out of nowhere, and vanished the next year as well. I think you're claim that short term success isn't possible (and your defence of the claim) are a bit absurd.What success are you talking about here? The only one of those clubs that didn't fail spectacularly in the finals was the Tigers, and they were built slowly. The other two - Parra and the Cowboys - were vastly different to their 2004 versions, and both shit themselves in successive weeks.
Even the 2009 Dragons played like a team of strangers in the finals.
That line just proves you're full of shit Poo Poos. Like Stagger's post, I don't really care who runs the club or is coach at any given point in time either, I'll support the club and pay my STH/membership (26 years running) regardless.You're obviously desperate to put shit on the people running the club, so keep laughing pal. Like this -> :lol:
the early 90's where Chris King was our Hindy and Speechley was our star half at the age of 55.
Will you marry me?![]()
So short term success isn't success unless you judge a team "deserved it". OK.
I think now you're just being argumentative because you're bored. You claimed short-term success is impossible... I gave examples of short term success being teams that have been grand-finalists or minor premiers in one year that seemed to come out of nowhere, and vanished the next year as well. I think you're claim that short term success isn't possible (and your defence of the claim) are a bit absurd.
That line just proves you're full of shit Poo Poos. Like Stagger's post, I don't really care who runs the club or is coach at any given point in time either, I'll support the club and pay my STH/membership (26 years running) regardless.
But I will care about whether those running the club or acting as coach are producing some level of success - to at least match their own claims, or the claims made by others (eg here) on their behalf....
apparently that's death-riding
but it was ok to do when Fitzgerald was at the helm (even though I was happy to see the back of him too) and ok to do while Hages or DA were around (but somehow different for this coach)? Spot the h.y.p.r.o.c.i.s.y...
Smacks of panic by an inexperienced board. What has he done that Ando didn't anyway ?
OK...so, again, why extend his contract? Anyone can promise the world and provide a "plan" for the future. It's delivering on it that counts. All I am saying is that we do not (IMO) appear to have any improvement on last season and this article hints that we are ready to install this unproven rookie coach as the messiah!!
Once again, the 3P/Kearney apologists are out in force. Need I remind you that Daniel Anderson too inheritated a team he didn't choose - one, I might add never even looked like making the 8 the year before he took over - but he banded them together to make the GF. Kearney may well go on to do the same thing, I hope he does. But at this point, he has achieved NOTHING. So why all this talk about contract extensions??? It is lunacy. Surely, you can see this?
WOE