Extended contract offer to Kearney

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

I don't get why people feel the need to bring up DA. He's gone. For what ever reason, he is gone. Kearney has nothing to do with him.

 

[Eels Dude]

I guess there's no real point in argueing with Poupou as he's only willing to take into considering his own personal understanding of certain terms bartman.

 

[Eels Dude]

Then you need to look closer. You can't see a change in the side? Take the results away from it and look at them play. Look at the cohesion and dedication they are showing. They are a well drilled and well prepared team.

Best example, look at our slowing of the play the ball down. Our wrestling in the ruck has been superb.

That's a matter of opinion. You have yours, but let others have theirs.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't get why people feel the need to bring up DA. He's gone. For what ever reason, he is gone. Kearney has nothing to do with him.

So f**king true.

I guess there's no real point in argueing with Poupou as he's only willing to take into considering his own personal understanding of certain terms bartman.

I think you'll find I was the only one who attempted to understand why we were arguing past each other.

Since he took issue with a statement I made - "There is no short-term success in today's game" - I was compelled to explain why I said it, and why I believe it's true. The examples of 'short term success' bartman gave were both childish and antagonistic, as though I don't watch the game. In fact it is exactly what happened to our club under Anderson, so bartman would've known I'm aware of it.

Therefore I clearly wasn't referring to situations like the examples he quoted, and whatsmore they had no bearing on our club or what any of us want from our club.

Do any of us really want the kind of 'short term success' that sees us lose a grand final one year and then not make the finals for the next 2 or 3 years? Would any of us really consider that to be 'success' in the first place?

So why would some arsehole think I was referring to that situation when I talk about 'short term success'? That situation has nothing to do with our club going forward - it is part of our failure in the past.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Really?

2010 after 16 rounds - 222 pts against
2011 after 16 rounds - 325 pts against

Yep, we're going great guns ...

LOL - Well there you are, that's spin-doctoring for you working at its best!

 

[Casper The Ghost]

if what 3P put out about Anderson wasn't true after the review then why didn't he sue?

1 of the 3 who did the review wasn't a 3P man either http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...cy-board-meeting/story-e6frexnr-1225929647804

You really have no idea how relationships across many boards and boards of directors have ties with a few who control the directions of all the corporations their lackeys sit on.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Sounds serious Casper.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What Casper is saying makes me concerned and I'd like to hear more.

 

[B-Tron 3000]

Once again a topic about the coach becomes about previous coaches. Who gives a shit what happened to Anderson, or Hagan, or Smith or John f**king Monie? We need to look at what the club requires in the next few years.

The decision to extend him comes down to whether Stephen Kearney has solved the culture issue within the club and, if not, will he? Also, what has he done - or is doing - to set us up for the future?

Personally, from the outside looking in, I wasn't happy with what happened on saturday night. It looked like the Eels still have the same old problems:

* We play well against the good teams, and badly against the bad teams.
* terrible kicking game
* inability to knuckle down when things are against us - too often when we start badly it ends up an absolute car crash. There are some serious mental issues within this club.

Sandow will solve the kicking problem but he will not be able to solve the fact that we can't seem to get up against shit teams or stop the team sliding when things go wrong - he hasn't yet developed that ability and Souths have similar problems to us.

So, what does that mean for Kearney? For me, it means I think it is early to be extending him. But, like Poupou says, you can never really know unless you are privy to the inner workings of the club. The noises about the academy sound good.

And all I know is that I was glad to see some thoughts of stability from the club. Whether it proves to be the right move at least our leaders have decided upon a course of action and are sticking to it, rather than chopping and changing every two years.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

That's a matter of opinion. You have yours, but let others have theirs.

Opinions are only worthy if they are not backed by an agenda.

There is too much talk about the politics of the club. I know this is the place to do it, but it always ends in a bitch fit by someone and interesting discussion is rare.

On that note, bring back Tim Smith.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Once again a topic about the coach becomes about previous coaches. Who gives a shit what happened to Anderson, or Hagan, or Smith or John f**king Monie? We need to look at what the club requires in the next few years.

The decision to extend him comes down to whether Stephen Kearney has solved the culture issue within the club and, if not, will he? Also, what has he done - or is doing - to set us up for the future?

Personally, from the outside looking in, I wasn't happy with what happened on saturday night. It looked like the Eels still have the same old problems:

* We play well against the good teams, and badly against the bad teams.
* terrible kicking game
* inability to knuckle down when things are against us - too often when we start badly it ends up an absolute car crash. There are some serious mental issues within this club.

Sandow will solve the kicking problem but he will not be able to solve the fact that we can't seem to get up against shit teams or stop the team sliding when things go wrong - he hasn't yet developed that ability and Souths have similar problems to us.

So, what does that mean for Kearney? For me, it means I think it is early to be extending him. But, like Poupou says, you can never really know unless you are privy to the inner workings of the club. The noises about the academy sound good.

And all I know is that I was glad to see some thoughts of stability from the club. Whether it proves to be the right move at least our leaders have decided upon a course of action and are sticking to it, rather than chopping and changing every two years.

Give it time, it took Bellamy about 3 years to mould Melbourne the way he wanted.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

What Casper is saying makes me concerned and I'd like to hear more.

There are some excellent Australian researchers whose books documented these relationships. One close to home and one of the best was released around the year 1997: http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/1632390 - suggest you get it - I still have some new ones floating about, packed in a box amongst our "stuff". If you or anyone wants one, PM me. His cross-referencing of relationships with board directors across many corporations is extensively detailed and very disturbing at the same time. From what I am aware of, none of his research info has been debunked thus far...... There are many agendas "out there" seeking to discredit researchers like this bloke but these attacks always come from (are orchestrated by) those who have the most to lose. Many claims made about him are lies. There are political and spiritual beliefs he stands for which we do not endorse or support - however he is a good man with a good heart who only seeks the very best for everyone.

A brief overview of this book just found on the net.........

"This is the story of a near dispossession of the richest country in the world, and one of the youngest in terms of industrial economics. It is a story of how a virile and intensive people have been sapped of faith and will. Some of this material appeared in a booklet I wrote in July 1991. It outlined a predetermined policy, discernible throughout the world, for the transfer of political and economic decision-making away from parliaments elected or otherwise to a global government. The idea has appeared under a number of names: globalism, the new world order, global governance, the new international economic order, etc. This book deals with whole new dimensions of the constant policy for global governance. For a time any rational discussion about this policy was dismissed. Notions of such a momentous change, it was suggested, were merely the delusions of conspiracy theorists or ignorant people. The charge of ‘conspiratorialism’ became a stock-in-trade for lazy journalists, evasive politicians and isolated academics who knew the penalties for challenging the orthodox. A glossary of terms was employed to bury views that deviated from the mainstream – racist, fascist, ultraconservative, extreme, and, increasingly anti-semitic. Years of this sort of social conditioning leads to a bottling-up process, apt to explode unexpectedly."

Link --- Link

 

[IFR33K]

Give it time, it took Bellamy about 3 years to mould Melbourne the way he wanted.

Theres the problem right there. At this stage, SK is nowhere near Bellamy or Bennett. Yeah he needs time. He has 2.5 years, that should be more then enough time to determine if the man can coach. Way to early to be offering him anything.

 

[Eels Dude]

Give it time, it took Bellamy about 3 years to mould Melbourne the way he wanted.

Nobody is saying he shouldn't be given the time. But 3 years is more than enough time. And he has a 3 year contract. So let's see how he goes over his current contract. Then think about extending it.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

There are some excellent Australian researchers whose books documented these relationships. One close to home and one of the best was released around the year 1997: http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/1632390 - suggest you get it - I still have some new ones floating about, packed in a box amongst our "stuff". If you or anyone wants one, PM me. His cross-referencing of relationships with board directors across many corporations is extensively detailed and very disturbing at the same time. From what I am aware of, none of his research info has been debunked thus far...... There are many agendas "out there" seeking to discredit researchers like this bloke but these attacks always come from (are orchestrated by) those who have the most to lose. Many claims made about him are lies. There are political and spiritual beliefs he stands for which we do not endorse or support - however he is a good man with a good heart who only seeks the very best for everyone.

A brief overview of this book just found on the net.........

"This is the story of a near dispossession of the richest country in the world, and one of the youngest in terms of industrial economics. It is a story of how a virile and intensive people have been sapped of faith and will. Some of this material appeared in a booklet I wrote in July 1991. It outlined a predetermined policy, discernible throughout the world, for the transfer of political and economic decision-making away from parliaments elected or otherwise to a global government. The idea has appeared under a number of names: globalism, the new world order, global governance, the new international economic order, etc. This book deals with whole new dimensions of the constant policy for global governance. For a time any rational discussion about this policy was dismissed. Notions of such a momentous change, it was suggested, were merely the delusions of conspiracy theorists or ignorant people. The charge of ‘conspiratorialism’ became a stock-in-trade for lazy journalists, evasive politicians and isolated academics who knew the penalties for challenging the orthodox. A glossary of terms was employed to bury views that deviated from the mainstream – racist, fascist, ultraconservative, extreme, and, increasingly anti-semitic. Years of this sort of social conditioning leads to a bottling-up process, apt to explode unexpectedly."

Link --- Link

Bless your little heart Casper.

I used to be a left-wing conspiracy nut. Then I got sick of being poor.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Bless your little heart Casper.

I used to be a left-wing conspiracy nut. Then I got sick of being poor.

We are neither left wing or right wing - we are not into supporting duality in all its forms. Some of the conspiracy stuff helps people become aware of the psychological tactics being used to manipulate the outcomes of many peoples lives but in themselves, they are still not a remedy that brings freedom, truth, peace, abundance, joy and do no harm for all of life. In fact, they like everything else in "The System" including left wing or right wing are distractions from creating a real-living paradise for all.

Life is in our image - we only need to change the way we are thinking and give life to these thoughts and the world will be in that image.

The outcomes of our lives are the thoughts we think.

All that is required is to take full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

This means if we all want peace, etc, we all have to walk away from hiding behind limited liability costumes, titles, rules, regulations, rituals, procedures, conditions, contracts, and all other 3rd party interlopers, intermeddlers and interceders we pass the buck to as in a Jesus or The Galactic Federation or the Government, the courts, the Churches, etc, and start taking full-responsibility for everything we think, feel and do.

 

[HevyDevy]

I do know the people responsible for hiring and firing coaches are more likely to make rational judgements than a bunch of whiny, 40something year old children on a f**king internet messageboard.

Sounds a lot like yourself PP.

In-fact, your forum aggression makes me smile somewhat. I highly doubt you speak to people the same way in person.

More importantly, when it comes to the topic of this thread and what has been said about the board, you shouldn't comment on issues you know nothing about.

Let me guess, you're a real supporter and we're not? :lol:

Pelican

 

[HevyDevy]

Opinions are only worthy if they are not backed by an agenda.

There is too much talk about the politics of the club. I know this is the place to do it, but it always ends in a bitch fit by someone and interesting discussion is rare.

On that note, bring back Tim Smith.

I don't know mate, I reckon most people on here are capable of discussion. Except PP who prefers to have a tanty and Stagger who believes 3P can't put a foot wrong.

Anyway, every single person on here has agreed on one thing - it's too early to make a judgement. Put it this way, if they were to fire SK now we would certainly all agree it was a moronic thing to do after only half a season, so why extend it?

Give him the full 3 years and if he is doing a good job re-sign him then. Simple. Personally I think that he does have the ability to become a good coach. But time will tell as it does with everyone.

 

[woodyk2]

Kearney should surely get coach of the year....surely....he's done an awesome job.Has to be one of the best out there.Easily. He certainly has brought culture to the squad. Recruitment looks great to. Winner.

 

[SDM]

Lock him up until 2025