Carney, Myles and Nu'uausala allegedly break team booze ban.

[Penrose Warrior]

Carney won't be sacked by the roosters no matter what he does.

But breaking a team booze ban. Seriously, don't these newspaper people have better shit to write about. I mean who gives a flying testicle about each teams booze bans and who breaks them you dickwads. How about an articulate well written article about the game of Rugby League. Oh wait that's well beyond their actual capability.

I'm not sure of your size but you're in danger of living up to the second part of your name.

Seriously, if the Roosters go to the trouble of having a booze ban then breaking it - under the public eye - is a story. I get so tired of 'don't these newspaper people have better shit to write about'. For a start, you read it. I read it. All the people in this long thread read it.

If league players kept to the rules of the law and their clubs, then newspapers would be free to write about the game. But they don't.

However, whilst I am partially defending newspapers...saying However, there is now a suspicion that if Carney has been unlucky to have been caught out twice then he may have broken undertakings not to drink on other occasions and got away with it is gutter press. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Pure guesswork. Facts or piss off.

 

[Pierced Soul]

He should start a home liquor delivery businesss, dial a d*ckhead.When it comes to the slops he at least is reliable.

he'd drink all the product on the delivery run

If the Roosters have any credibility as an NRL club left, they should f**k Carney off without further ado. Otherwise any shred of respect I had left for them is gone.

it's not just the roosters though, if he gets sacked there'll be a host of other clubs lining up to sign him. clubs are willing to take people with questionable qualities if they're good players. he hasnt done anythingw rong to be de-registered, but the only way he'll elarn is if the other 15 clubs all stay away as well

 

[Danish]

Hows his form going champ? Look, you'd know your team better than me, but it looks like the difference between Easts in 2010and Easts in 2011 is Todd Carney - who was brilliant in 2010 and f*cking woeful in 2011. He's gone from Brett Kenny to Daniel Mortimer.

To me, a confirmed alcoholic who suffers such a massive fall in form over a season where he frequents pubs IS doing something wrong. He was clean last year - and phenomenal. Notice the difference?

Ever thought that perhaps the loss of form this year came from the... oh i don't know.... DEBILITATING GROIN INJURY AND SURGERY HE HAD IN APRIL???

Carney did nothing wrong. He went to a pub, probably had a drink, then went home. Meanwhile Jonathan Thurston gets arrested annually, Benji has assault charges brought against him every other year but hey, JT pats ball boys on the head and Marshall only assaults people after doing a charity appearance so everything is hunky dory.

 

[Danish]

However, whilst I am partially defending newspapers...saying However, there is now a suspicion that if Carney has been unlucky to have been caught out twice then he may have broken undertakings not to drink on other occasions and got away with it is gutter press. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Pure guesswork. Facts or piss off.

Surely the fact that the 2 times he has been "busted" for drinking (and not doing anything wrong) have been off the back of jo f**kwad members of the public scrambling for their camera phones and making a quick buck through the tele tells us that anytime Carney touches a beer he gets in trouble with the media.

I mean FFS this taxi driver called the f**king press because he picked up a fair, who then sent photographers to find them and take their picture.

The idea that Carney could get away with a quiet beer anywhere the public are is laughable.

 

[Freddy's Girl]

Ever thought that perhaps the loss of form this year came from the... oh i don't know.... DEBILITATING GROIN INJURY AND SURGERY HE HAD IN APRIL???

Carney did nothing wrong. He went to a pub, probably had a drink, then went home. Meanwhile Jonathan Thurston gets arrested annually, Benji has assault charges brought against him every other year but hey, JT pats ball boys on the head and Marshall only assaults people after doing a charity appearance so everything is hunky dory.

Come off it. He couldn't stay off the drink for just 2 f**king weeks. He has got problems and we can't solve them.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Agree. That's why I'm saying it's gutter press to suggest so.

 

[Pete Cash]

A dude with alcohol issues shouldn't be drinking. It was the refusal to take a grog ban that got him fired from the Raiders. Who were going to give him another chance at the time.

 

[Nice Beaver]

All comes back to the last time he got in the shit and the Roosters mangement did SFA about it.
I said it at the time (as did others), by the Roosters letting him back into first grade after some clayton's suspension it sent a very clear message to Carney that he could do whatever the f*ck he likes and this mob will do nothing about it.
Whoever was behind letting him back into first grade earlier this year should be getting the punt if Carney does too. This bloke obviously has issues and the Roosters chose to sacrifice his personal health over them getting a win. Fair enough to a degree I guess, they pay the bills. But don't bullshit everyone by getting on TV and saying "Oh we're here for Todd and want to make him a better human blah blah blah" then show him through weak management that he has free rein.
As for the IDIOTS in this club who are supposed to be his mates...taking him out on the sauce (drink or not) at 2am in the morning is going to result in NOTHING but his crusifiction once again. Who needs enemies......

 

[skeepe]

Ever thought that perhaps the loss of form this year came from the... oh i don't know.... DEBILITATING GROIN INJURY AND SURGERY HE HAD IN APRIL???

Carney did nothing wrong. He went to a pub, probably had a drink, then went home. Meanwhile Jonathan Thurston gets arrested annually, Benji has assault charges brought against him every other year but hey, JT pats ball boys on the head and Marshall only assaults people after doing a charity appearance so everything is hunky dory.

After agreeing to a booze ban.

After telling the world he had a problem.

After enrolling in Alcoholics Anonymous.

After being caught drink driving.

After being caught drinking while on the injured list, after telling the club he was going to Goulburn to visit his mum.

After telling David Gallop he was going to avoid alcohol, an undertaking which saved him from being deregistered this year.

You see, it's not the fact that he had a drink. It's the fact that he had a drink despite all of those factors, and that's just this year's list.

If it were an isolated incident, it wouldn't be a problem. But Todd Carney has problems. And Todd Carney is not doing a damn thing to help himself. And, it seems, neither is the absolutely rotten culture at the Roosters.

 

[Danish]

Come off it. He couldn't stay off the drink for just 2 f**king weeks. He has got problems and we can't solve them.

Why the bloody hell should he stay off it? Because pea-hearted wastes of space like Anasta and Ryles demand it?

He's no alcoholic. He was just an idiot on the booze for a few years, but for the last few years has been able to control himself. I mean FFS Carney would drink less booze than about 90% of league fans and the population in general.

Personally I want to hear from whatever group of bozos made this ridiculous 2 week drinking ban to begin with and what their motivations were behind it. They are a stupid invention that successful clubs like the Dragons, Storm and Broncos don't bother themselves with and used only as band-aid solutions by senior players who have no idea how to build a group of players into a real team.

 

[skeepe]

Why the bloody hell should he stay off it? Because pea-hearted wastes of space like Anasta and Ryles demand it?

He's no alcoholic. He was just an idiot on the booze for a few years, but for the last few years has been able to control himself. I mean FFS Carney would drink less booze than about 90% of league fans and the population in general.

Personally I want to hear from whatever group of bozos made this ridiculous 2 week drinking ban to begin with and what their motivations were behind it. They are a stupid invention that successful clubs like the Dragons, Storm and Broncos don't bother themselves with and used only as band-aid solutions by senior players who have no idea how to build a group of players into a real team.

Because he told David Gallop that he would? An undertaking that allowed him to play at all this season, if you remember back to the start of the year.

And a massive, massive LOL at the "He's no alcoholic" crack. Good joke Danish.

 

[Freddy's Girl]

Why the bloody hell should he stay off it? Because pea-hearted wastes of space like Anasta and Ryles demand it?

He's no alcoholic. He was just an idiot on the booze for a few years, but for the last few years has been able to control himself. I mean FFS Carney would drink less booze than about 90% of league fans and the population in general.

Personally I want to hear from whatever group of bozos made this ridiculous 2 week drinking ban to begin with and what their motivations were behind it. They are a stupid invention that successful clubs like the Dragons, Storm and Broncos don't bother themselves with and used only as band-aid solutions by senior players who have no idea how to build a group of players into a real team.

Drink driving is controlling yourself? then two weeks later going partying while those pea hearts which you describe were busting there asses for our club? Thats carney definitley controlling himself :roll:

Whether or not you think its ridiculous, they all agreed to it. He has no respect for anyone but himself!

 

[Freddy's Girl]

Because he told David Gallop that he would? An undertaking that allowed him to play at all this season, if you remember back to the start of the year.

And a massive, massive LOL at the "He's no alcoholic" crack. Good joke Danish.

He was never banned from drinking and I agree with Danish isn't an alcoholic, just plain moron who can't grow up.

 

[gronkathon]

Personally I want to hear from whatever group of bozos made this ridiculous 2 week drinking ban to begin with and what their motivations were behind it.

I believe that was spelled out in one or the articles insofaras word had been filtering back to the clubs senior ranks about more than a few players sailing close to the line in regards to drinking and behaviour.

The senior playing group has at least some duty of care to uphold the image of the club and got the players together and the self imposed ban was agreed upon.

Than again with Myles as a senior player they may as well have Julian O'Neil there. He is a disgrace.

It is interesting listening to Matthew Johns on the radio this morning and Geyer. Two guys that had their lives torn apart by alcohol and stupidity in different circumstances.

 

[skeepe]

He was never banned from drinking and I agree with Danish isn't an alcoholic, just plain moron who can't grow up.

He wasn't banned, he made a promise that he would avoid it.

Carney has been enrolled in an Alcoholics Anonymous program and gave the club and Gallop a clear undertaking he would be refraining from drinking after narrowly escaping a jail term following a drink-driving charge in February.

http://www.bigpondsport.com/gallop-hammers-carney/tabid/91/newsid/70431/default.aspx

 

[Danish]

Because he told David Gallop that he would? An undertaking that allowed him to play at all this season, if you remember back to the start of the year.

And a massive, massive LOL at the "He's no alcoholic" crack. Good joke Danish.

Do you know what an alcoholic is Skeepe?

The drink EVERY DAY. They have to. They have a physical reaction if they dont.

Carney is just like thousands of other blokes who didn't know when to stop drinking when in their teens and early twenties. You grow out of it once the hangovers become too much and maturity hits.

Carney should never have made any promises to Gallop, I agree with that. Common sense should surely prevail however and absolutely will. If the group of senior dickheads at our club decide to move him on, he'll be snapped up by another club within weeks and the NRL won't stand in their way.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

He seriously isn't worth the trouble, Roosters fans. The club would be better off in the long run by sacking him now.

 

[skeepe]

Do you know what an alcoholic is Skeepe?

The drink EVERY DAY. They have to. They have a physical reaction if they dont.

Carney is just like thousands of other blokes who didn't know when to stop drinking when in their teens and early twenties. You grow out of it once the hangovers become too much and maturity hits.

Carney should never have made any promises to Gallop, I agree with that. Common sense should surely prevail however and absolutely will. If the group of senior dickheads at our club decide to move him on, he'll be snapped up by another club within weeks and the NRL won't stand in their way.

You're describing alcohol dependence. Alcoholic can also be used to describe someone who continues to drink, despite the knowledge that there will be consequences for it. This description fits Todd Carney perfectly.

Todd Carney is not like thousands of other blokes who don't know when to stop drinking, simply because those "thousands of other blokes" don't drink in the knowledge that they could be one drink away from ruining their careers.

 

[Freddy's Girl]

He wasn't banned, he made a promise that he would avoid it.

That was after the drink driving incident, which he didn't even last 2 weeks later. Pearce then said the club allowed him to drink but in the right environment..something like that. He quickly changed the subject after he realised what he said.

 

[Danish]

You're describing alcohol dependence. Alcoholic can also be used to describe someone who continues to drink, despite the knowledge that there will be consequences for it. This description fits Todd Carney perfectly.

Todd Carney is not like thousands of other blokes who don't know when to stop drinking, simply because those "thousands of other blokes" don't drink in the knowledge that they could be one drink away from ruining their careers.

If this is how you justify being able to get pissed while still being able to throw rocks at Carney for having a couple drinks then more power to you.