Confirmed Signings - 2012/13

[Wato]

Interesting to see where Laurie ends up now? Newcastle was one of a few clubs chasing him but I doubt Newcastle have much cap space left. Although we will have space in our NSW cup roster with our brand new team playing out of Newcastle

 

[Didgi]

lol the point is simple mate your forward pack was far from the best infact its pretty damn avergage at best, tonga boys as i said great addition. however both the halves you bought are pretty average and the coin u paid sandow is an out and out joke. you might of got the best halfback on the market but there is still 10 other clubs who sit there laughing at the fact they have a halfback better on far less, as for 5/8 he couldnt beat keating for a reason, he had 1 good year with the dogs its when noddy did everything.

Sandow was far better than average last season. Where are you getting his contract $$ from? Either way there's not 10 better halfbacks on less in the league.

 

[Allstar Knights]

Including Hodgkinson....

 

[DoggiesBro]

Sandow was far better than average last season. Where are you getting his contract $$ from? Either way there's not 10 better halfbacks on less in the league.

The reports were from 500k-600k who knows what the truth is but id say

thurston, cronk, prince, pearce, mullen, dce, hodkinson, wallace, carney, walsh hell even johnson looks better then him. not to mention the 5 or so 5/8s.

half of those blokes would be on half of what he is on e.g walsh, johnson, hodkinson, wallace, dce and they are all better at worst as good.

in my opinion he has shown very little then being someone capable of brilliance but usually absolute rubbish for the past few seasons, and i certainly wouldn't pay him anywhere near thurston, cronk, prince, benji or any other top half.

 

[Allstar Knights]

The reports were from 500k-600k who knows what the truth is but id say

thurston, cronk, prince, pearce, mullen, dce, hodkinson, wallace, carney, walsh hell even johnson looks better then him. not to mention the 5 or so 5/8s.

half of those blokes would be on half of what he is on e.g walsh, johnson, hodkinson, wallace, dce and they are all better at worst as good.

in my opinion he has shown very little then being someone capable of brilliance but usually absolute rubbish for the past few seasons, and i certainly wouldn't pay him anywhere near thurston, cronk, prince, benji or any other top half.

Judging him this year, Sandow would be in the top 4-5 halfbacks.... On form, that is.

I don't like the bloke either, but Wallace, Walsh and Hodkinson aren't even close. He's also played far better then Pearce and Mullen this year.

He'll have to back it up with another good year, but he's still better then some of those players you mentioned and the 500k figure that was thrown up, was clearly because Crowe was very bitter about Sandow leaving.

 

[DoggiesBro]

Judging him this year, Sandow would be in the top 4-5 halfbacks.... On form, that is.

I don't like the bloke either, but Wallace, Walsh and Hodkinson aren't even close. He's also played far better then Pearce and Mullen this year.

He'll have to back it up with another good year, but he's still better then some of those players you mentioned and the 500k figure that was thrown up, was clearly because Crowe was very bitter about Sandow leaving.

Right so the whole sandow and hoppa prices are made up not that the eels are expecting a massive upgrade in cap...

turn it up mate, they paid out the nose for him its why he left he said himself it was to good to turn down. walsh, hodkinson and wallace have all shown alot more then sandow over their time. mullen and pearce are that far ahead of him its not funny. sandow turned it on for a few games at the end of the year so did everyone of those players you said were behind him. the reason people noticed it more is the media blew it up because they were fighting for a top 8. all of the halves i listed are as good or better and the reality is they are far far far more consistent and not to mention that pretty much all of them would be on less money then him and the ones that are on similar money would be 10000000x the player sandow is e.g thurston, benji etc, i agree he had a few games that he was awesome however that doesn't make a season and further more doesn't make a top halfback especially paid that kind of money. he has more shocking horrible games then crackers. hell i'd take a solid consistent wallace/hodkinson/walsh any day of the week over him, they mightin kick the awesome 40/20 they mightin pull 1 big shoulder charge in every 10,000 attempted however you pretty much know each week you will get a solid game out of them. the blokes on his money need to win matches like thurston and benji do with there individual brilliance and ability to make others better around them WEEKLY.

 

[Allstar Knights]

Right so the whole sandow and hoppa prices are made up not that the eels are expecting a massive upgrade in cap...

turn it up mate, they paid out the nose for him its why he left he said himself it was to good to turn down. walsh, hodkinson and wallace have all shown alot more then sandow over their time. mullen and pearce are that far ahead of him its not funny. sandow turned it on for a few games at the end of the year so did everyone of those players you said were behind him. the reason people noticed it more is the media blew it up because they were fighting for a top 8. all of the halves i listed are as good or better and the reality is they are far far far more consistent and not to mention that pretty much all of them would be on less money then him and the ones that are on similar money would be 10000000x the player sandow is e.g thurston, benji etc.

Most reports say Sandow was on 350k-400k. Still might be paying overs, but it's not nearly as bad as 500k, plus Parra were desperate for a halfback.

Walsh, Hodgkinson and Wallace really haven't shown more then what Sandow has. Walsh drifts out of games, he's a poor defender and has more bad games then good. Hodkinson is a solid defensive orientated 7 with a decent kicking game but not very flash in attack, so too Wallace but without the decent kicking game. None of them have won best player awards for their clubs, or been the shining light for their team like Sandow has all this year.

 

[Outlaw Pete]

why can't posters get 'their' and 'there' correct. ????????????????

 

[Ausguy]

why can't posters get 'their' and 'there' correct. ????????????????

cos their illiterate. :sarcasm:

 

[DoggiesBro]

Most reports say Sandow was on 350k-400k. Still might be paying overs, but it's not nearly as bad as 500k, plus Parra were desperate for a halfback.

Walsh, Hodgkinson and Wallace really haven't shown more then what Sandow has. Walsh drifts out of games, he's a poor defender and has more bad games then good. Hodkinson is a solid defensive orientated 7 with a decent kicking game but not very flash in attack, so too Wallace but without the decent kicking game. None of them have won best player awards for their clubs, or been the shining light for their team like Sandow has all this year.

best player awards? if u mean man of matches im sure hodkinson has he was outstanding in attack for us in the back end of season, as for wallace he played nsw for a reason although he hasn't had that same form lately. walsh is a good kicking halfback although i admit weak in defense, but what do you think sandow is? he is a speed bump at best.

if you mean hes been best player of the year award, the reason is simple everyone was either injured or playing like shit for the bunnies. burgess, asotasi etc out, blokes like luke and sutton playing like a waste of space most the year. inglis too.

seeing the only 3 u mentioned are walsh, hodkinson and wallace ill leave it at this, i would rather my club be paying them their 200-250k a year and spending another 200k-300k to another good player or divided into other good players then paying sandow 400k (you claim) 500-600k (the papers, news, footy mags, foxsports etc claim) thats for DAMN sure.

i'm not bagging the eels cause i actually got a soft spot for them (hard to believe being a dog fan) but seriously if they think a halves of sandow and roberts is going to help they have rocks in the head one of the most inconsistent and unorganised pairing ive ever heard not to mention the brain snaps and shocking games they constantly produce. nor the money that sandow is on. then again they did pay hayne some geniused amount of money too and while im a huge fan you can't say he is worth more then billy or thurston or smith etc.

in my opinion they should of put the rumoured 800k combined from roberts and sandow and kept robson one more year and had a good crack at a foran/maloney and nathan friend. would of been around the same price and got you a top 5 5/8 and a top 5 hooker.

 

[Didgi]

Doggiesbrah your posts hurt my head, and that's before I get to the content.

Parra did not pay nearly 500-600k for Sandow. Crowe's twitter is not a source. Hodkinson and Walshe are terrible. Mullen and Wallace not a lot better, certainly not as good as Sandow this year. Pearce was terrible this season.

 

[boxhead]

Hodkinson/Walsh/Pearce better than Sandow :lol:
I have heard it all now.
Sandow is presumed to be on 400K Doggiesbro, Rusty was bullsh!tting.

There's no doubt that Sandow was considered one of the lesser halves in the NRL before this season; horrible defence, incredibly inconsistent, and he often took the wrong options in attack.
Whilst the first problem is still apparent, based on his 2011 form one would have to say he was in the top 5 halfbacks this year. We've long needed a player that can organize and direct an effective attack; we may just have one. We certainly didn't buy Sandow for his defence. Add to that we signed the two Tonga brothers and Ben Roberts and our attack, our largest issue over the past four seasons, should be hugely improved.

Time will tell if Sandow turns out to be the halfback we need, but considering his age, I would say he is either going to keep improving or he will at least play as well as he did throughout most of 2011.
And FYI Doggiesbro, his early season firm was also exceptional. He dropped off somewhat throughout the middle of the season.
Hell his field goals alone will bring us three wins at least

Also, I'll put this question to you: would you want Hodkinson on 250-300K or Sandow on 350-400K?
Hodkinson is a good defender but isn't really a great attacking halfback.
Sandow is a terrible defender but a fantastic attacking halfback.

 

[Big Pete]

Sandow is a talent but very inconsistent, prone to make brain explosions and bad choices plus is one of the worst defensive players in the game. Had a better season than most on the list (would argue Wallace on a game by game basis) but I wouldn't write off those other halves either.

In fact, I think any half that isn't Thurston, Cronk or DCE is basically at a varying level of 'ok'.

 

[Evil Homer]

Con Mika -> Hull KR

 

[DoggiesBro]

Doggiesbrah your posts hurt my head, and that's before I get to the content.

Parra did not pay nearly 500-600k for Sandow. Crowe's twitter is not a source. Hodkinson and Walshe are terrible. Mullen and Wallace not a lot better, certainly not as good as Sandow this year. Pearce was terrible this season.

So you don't watch football. Got it.

 

[DoggiesBro]

Sandow is a talent but very inconsistent, prone to make brain explosions and bad choices plus is one of the worst defensive players in the game. Had a better season than most on the list (would argue Wallace on a game by game basis) but I wouldn't write off those other halves either.

In fact, I think any half that isn't Thurston, Cronk or DCE is basically at a varying level of 'ok'.

Again you prove to not be biased and havee a good level head.

The other bloke who called walsh and wallace and hodkinson terrible has rocks in his head.

The other guy who said would you take hodkinson on 200-250k or sandow on 400-450k i know damn wel who i'd take. Hodkinson.

Hodkinson was very good in our opening games and we lost i think 1 in 7? Then we had a mid season slump and lost a few players and moore lost the team. When he got the boot Hodkinson came to be that player he was at manly, he played better then he did all year for us.

Even a few man of the matches he was shreading manly before being injured he was making plays, running for himself, kicking very well etc.

He is certainly not a thurston or prince or any top class halfback however he is either the best or up there with wallace and maybe a very small list of halfbacks that are OUTSTANDING in defense, he saved idris f**k knows howw many times. He also has a solid kicking and passing combo.

Not to mention this is in a team of players he didn't know. If him and Barba can strike up a combo then watch out! However as i said he is more a solid halfback with solid kicking game, passing game and a very good deffender.

He won't be a bloke like thurston or benji or prince etc that will win you a game on his own but he will also not lose you one on his own and most importantly he isn't paid to be one of those players.

Sandow is now and he will lose you as many if not more games then he will. If we rate a player off one season then mortimer is a gun. Deadset open your eyes.

I've rapped the signings of tongas hell i think both of those boys will have huge years and you will have two very good centres there, which you lacked badly. I'd of loved the dogs to signed either to replace idris. I rate Esi highly. However Roberts and Sandow are both so full of brain snaps, stupid plays and more often then not the wrong play. Roberts is ok in deffense however Sandow is probz the worst in the league.

 

[boxhead]

You mis-read my post. I said Hodkinson 250-300K and Sandow 350-400K, if you can't even get that correct then you are setting yourself up to be repeatedly satirized.
Hodkinson has been average throughout the year with one or two good performances. His attacking game is poor. He isn't the best defensive halfback in the league either - that would be Jeff Robson.
Your point about him not knowing players is moot considering the attacking talent in that team and given Barba was the centre-point of the attack throughout the year.
Your ranting is hilarious :lol: If he doesn't do his job as a player that can organize an effective attack then he is part of a seventeen player team that will contribute to your team losing! Much the same with winning - there is no "do it on your own", as evidenced by Jarryd Hayne over the past few years.
Your logic regarding Sandow is simplistic and stupid, does it occur to you that halfbacks generally debut over the age of 20 and have a dominant partner they van work with and mature with? Given your assessment of the "facts" it might surprise you to know that Hodkinson is 23 and Sandow 22. Sandow has been playing since he was 18/19 AND expected to be the dominant playmaker for at least two of those years - why do you think he has struggled so much? Unlike Hodkinson Sandow always displayed the potential to be a great halfback, at least in attack. Your a moron if you think Sandow's form this year will be a one-off occurrence.

And how will he lose us games exactly? Have you noticed our biggest problem is ATTACK? Not to mention he will be in a team that has had a much better idea about defence in recent years.
Your the idiot that rates Hodkinson/Pearce/Walsh better than Sandow after this year :lol: I'm not the one that needs to open my eyes.

 

[boxhead]

And frankly, if you think Keating is better than Roberts.....
:lol:

 

[DoggiesBro]

You mis-read my post. I said Hodkinson 250-300K and Sandow 350-400K, if you can't even get that correct then you are setting yourself up to be repeatedly satirized.
Hodkinson has been average throughout the year with one or two good performances. His attacking game is poor. He isn't the best defensive halfback in the league either - that would be Jeff Robson.
Your point about him not knowing players is moot considering the attacking talent in that team and given Barba was the centre-point of the attack throughout the year.
Your ranting is hilarious :lol: If he doesn't do his job as a player that can organize an effective attack then he is part of a seventeen player team that will contribute to your team losing! Much the same with winning - there is no "do it on your own", as evidenced by Jarryd Hayne over the past few years.
Your logic regarding Sandow is simplistic and stupid, does it occur to you that halfbacks generally debut over the age of 20 and have a dominant partner they van work with and mature with? Given your assessment of the "facts" it might surprise you to know that Hodkinson is 23 and Sandow 22. Sandow has been playing since he was 18/19 AND expected to be the dominant playmaker for at least two of those years - why do you think he has struggled so much? Unlike Hodkinson Sandow always displayed the potential to be a great halfback, at least in attack. Your a moron if you think Sandow's form this year will be a one-off occurrence.

And how will he lose us games exactly? Have you noticed our biggest problem is ATTACK? Not to mention he will be in a team that has had a much better idea about defence in recent years.
Your the idiot that rates Hodkinson/Pearce/Walsh better than Sandow after this year :lol: I'm not the one that needs to open my eyes.

Again you can say all that crap but besides wallace in that list the others have been expected to be the dominate half aswell. Not to mention wallace when lockyer is out. As for attacking ability in the doggies outfit take out morris and barba and there isn't exactly a list of attacking guns in the backs? Bunnies have Inglis, Merrit, Sutton, Farrel who looked pretty good. I'd say the bunnies had it over them overall bar Barba in the backs.

As for how can Sandow lose you a game? Do you watch football honestly? Him and Roberts will make u want to break ur tv with some of the stupid plays, penalties, kicks dead, kicks on 3rd or 2nd that are just an out and out brain snap. Not to mention the stupid shoulder charges he always trys and 1/100000 works, or the fact he is a speed bump and will be a huge liability especially if you consider him to be replacing the best defense halfabck in robson. You will see what i mean. I'm not saying that the eels have bought bad buys. I'm saying i wouldn't rate them as the best buying team. If they got will hoppa this year too maybe with the tonga boys. However i'm glad to see the back of roberts although i will be glad to see the back of keating too. I wouldn't be happy with my club paying 400k-600k whatever the real figure is in between there for sandow either.

Hoppa and either tonga boys are awesome signings. The eels picked up the best halfback they could on the market right now although for that coin they should of waited for cronk or maloney or someone worth that money.

In saying this i think the sharks have recruited better is what i was saying. I also think the titans have.

 

[DoggiesBro]

And frankly, if you think Keating is better than Roberts.....
:lol:

I don't think it i know it. I'm not saying keating is good, for crying out loud he sucks. But it says something if roberts was continually held out by keating and not just that if u watched roberts the past 5 years or so. He has that potential to have a OUTSTANDING game like he did when eh shwoed up lockyer in 2009 however that is one game. the rest are ruined with stupid plays, idiotic kicks, dead kicks, horrible passes, stupid runs etc etc. drop balls. he is very very very average. Bloody hell i watched most nsw cup games and he was deadset one of our worst more then he was one of our better.

He had one good season and i've said this since he was a regular with us and that was with kimmorley. The reason being is kimmorley did all the important stuff and all the organising all roberts had to do was run out wide link with morris and run now and then and he did that very well however in 1 year out of 5-6 the rest were utter garbage more often then not. It says enough. If you ask most dog fans do u rate keating the answer is NO, if you ask if you think roberts is better the nanswer is HELL NO. I will be glad when we finally have someone worth having in the 6. The last one was anasta for f**k sake.