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iSelect Gold Coast Titans granted new license

Paul J

Juniors
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Not sure if this is already mentioned...the AFL fans at Big Footy have their own thread on the Titans woes.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=922698

Some are of the opinion the potential demise of the Titans would help the Suns, which makes sense.

How many leauge fans here want to see the Titans and Seale go down the toilet?

It would suck big time.
 

gronkathon

First Grade
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I would like to see Searle go down the toilet with the other pieces of crap.

The Titans need to be made sustainable not just propped up.

A condition of any deal needs to hinge on getting rid of Searle
 

gronkathon

First Grade
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Well he should be declared bankrupt soon enough at this rate and the trading companies made insolvent.

The commission or a new entity buy the club assets at a percentage on the dollar and go from there
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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Not sure if this is already mentioned...the AFL fans at Big Footy have their own thread on the Titans woes.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=922698

Some are of the opinion the potential demise of the Titans would help the Suns, which makes sense.

How many leauge fans here want to see the Titans and Seale go down the toilet?

It would suck big time.

who cares what those twinkies think?

not a brain between them
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
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BunniesMan we all know you're in here because you want the titans to die because you think you will then sign Cronk. It won't happen, give up
What I could imagine happening is the Titans sign Cronk in their final days. Fall over. His contract gets guaranteed by the NRL, he then plays for the Broncos for next to nothing.

This has little to do with Cronk, I'm confident of getting him either way.

I just think the Tits have gotten into a ridiculous amount of trouble and f**ked around plenty of small businesses in the community which is horrible when you're trying to build a brand.

The best long term option might just be to take the license of Searle, give it to someone who isn't a f**kwit and rebrand. A rebranding done the right way could earn goodwill in that community that isn't there at the moment.
who cares what those twinkies think?

not a brain between them
You have no idea how much you have in common with the worst posters on there.
 

babyg

Juniors
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Is the stadium deal withsearle the titans or the nrl. Could renegociate if a new licencee. Don't think thy should change the brand. Bail them out on the condition that sealer is gone.
 

docbrown

Coach
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You do realise that if a bunch of construction companies hadn't gone belly up because of the GFC, the project's cost wouldn't have blown out and none of you would be calling for Searle's head.

The Titans should be supported by the NRL and not be allowed to fold. Searle's position may be untenable at the club but that is no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Other than the COE, Searle has actually been one of the better club managers. The wisest decision would be to form an investor group with Searle as an equal ranking board member.

Everyone else baying for blood should get some perspective.
 

docbrown

Coach
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What I could imagine happening is the Titans sign Cronk in their final days. Fall over. His contract gets guaranteed by the NRL, he then plays for the Broncos for next to nothing.

I can't take the rest of your argument seriously when you make idiotic statements like that.
 

BunniesMan

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You do realise that if a bunch of construction companies hadn't gone belly up because of the GFC, the project's cost wouldn't have blown out and none of you would be calling for Searle's head.

The Titans should be supported by the NRL and not be allowed to fold. Searle's position may be untenable at the club but that is no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Other than the COE, Searle has actually been one of the better club managers. The wisest decision would be to form an investor group with Searle as an equal ranking board member.

Everyone else baying for blood should get some perspective.
Maybe a decent businessman wouldn't have invested in such a massive luxury in the middle of a financial crisis?

And you say "other than the COE"...like it's some minor marginal issue.
 

Mr Spock!

Referee
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Time to piss off from the Gold Coast. The AFL can have it. If they can make it viable when rugby league has failed 4/5 times and soccer as well, then good on them. If they bail this lot out it seems it'll only be time before they have to do it again.

Time to go to some places where expansion will work like Perth. And make sure they have a proper corporate governance structure.

As for the fans. When have the NRL given a cr@p about them?
 

CapitalRaider

Juniors
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Time to piss off from the Gold Coast. The AFL can have it. If they can make it viable when rugby league has failed 4/5 times and soccer as well, then good on them. If they bail this lot out it seems it'll only be time before they have to do it again.

Time to go to some places where expansion will work like Perth. And make sure they have a proper corporate governance structure.

As for the fans. When have the NRL given a cr@p about them?

I'm not sure that the NRL should concede the Gold Coast to the AFL, particularly when the TV rights are coming up and the expansion of the comp is a high priority.

Sends a bad message i reckon
 

VictoryFC

Bench
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Don't agree. Of course AFL can make it viable, just like League should be able to as well. Soccer is a bad example as no one gives a f**k about it in QLD. Remember this whole fiasco is because of Searle's "grand vision" for the Tits. I dont think the Suns are planning on building a 30m dollar facility anytime soon.
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
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I'm not sure that the NRL should concede the Gold Coast to the AFL, particularly when the TV rights are coming up and the expansion of the comp is a high priority.

Sends a bad message i reckon
Well it's already been confirmed that there won't be expansion for at least half of the next deal, with no guarantee of it happening after that.
 

The AXXXMAN

Guest
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lol... are you for real?

Anyway hopefully the club doesn't go bust. Not sure what the answer is.

1. sell the CoE for as much as they can get. This is the major debt. Commercial property market in GC is the worst it's been for 30 years though. Worst time to sell, but there is no choice.

2. NRL bail out the shortfall, buying a percentage of the club, and position on the board. That way the NRL have some control of direction and strategy of the club up there and ensure Corporate Governance regulations are being complied with and several strategy and business, and football options are continually being generated and debated by committee and not left to one bloke. This is so important because it is what the AFL are doing with the Suns. Down the track, they can sell their share when the club has really settled into the GC community and club is financially stable.

3. The NRL attempt to re-negotiate a ground deal. The NRL need to be involved in this, not just leave it to the club.

Strategically, the Gold Coast is extremely important to the game. It is the 6th largest metropolitan area in the country and is important to broadcast rights. The NRL just havent learnt from prior mistakes and need to take a more hands on approach up there while the Titans are laying the long-term foundations.
 

CapitalRaider

Juniors
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Well it's already been confirmed that there won't be expansion for at least half of the next deal, with no guarantee of it happening after that.

Letting a club fall over while trying to negotiate for higher tv revenue still doesn't look good.

expansion = more games to televise = more tv revenue. it should be a high priority in my book
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
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Letting a club fall over while trying to negotiate for higher tv revenue still doesn't look good.

expansion = more games to televise = more tv revenue. it should be a high priority in my book
I'm not arguing it shouldn't be a high priority. I totally agree it should be. If it was upto me there'd be two new teams from day 1 of the new tv rights deal. Having a 9th game for the length of the contract would maximise how much we get.

I was just saying what the decision makers have decided. We'll be lucky to get expansion in 2016.
 

docbrown

Coach
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1. sell the CoE for as much as they can get. This is the major debt. Commercial property market in GC is the worst it's been for 30 years though. Worst time to sell, but there is no choice.

2. NRL bail out the shortfall, buying a percentage of the club, and position on the board. That way the NRL have some control of direction and strategy of the club up there and ensure Corporate Governance regulations are being complied with and several strategy and business, and football options are continually being generated and debated by committee and not left to one bloke. This is so important because it is what the AFL are doing with the Suns. Down the track, they can sell their share when the club has really settled into the GC community and club is financially stable.

3. The NRL attempt to re-negotiate a ground deal. The NRL need to be involved in this, not just leave it to the club.

Strategically, the Gold Coast is extremely important to the game. It is the 6th largest metropolitan area in the country and is important to broadcast rights. The NRL just havent learnt from prior mistakes and need to take a more hands on approach up there while the Titans are laying the long-term foundations.

Common sense approach.

I still think the NRL could buy into the COE though and actually be able to make money from it.

Maybe a decent businessman wouldn't have invested in such a massive luxury in the middle of a financial crisis?

Nothing wrong with having a bit of vision and I can understand where he was coming from with it.

Do you realise how many construction businesses failed on the Gold Coast because of the GFC? That's the primary cause of the problem.

But now you're expecting Searle to have psychic powers to know just how much debt those companies were hiding.

Perhaps there's a good reason why Reed Constructions are pursuing this so hard - because they're probably about to collapse too!

Where are the people claiming that the construction industry on the Gold Coast will never work, let's get rid of it forever?

Oh wait - saying things like that would make you an idiot.
 

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