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Apey

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Good read.

http://www.newcastleknights.com.au/news-display/Did-all-this-really-happen-in-20-months/57240

They say a day in politics is a long time!
20 months in sport can be an eternity.
In September 2010 the Newcastle Jets were about to fold, broke and demoralised, leaving the large football family of Newcastle and Northern NSW without an A-League team.
On a handshake, the Jets were saved and the Hunter Sports Group was formed.
During the past 20 months supporters and the entire Hunter community have been on a roller coaster ride that has placed our region under the Australian sporting microscope.
There have been some amazing ups with the world wide exposure generated by David Beckham’s visit with LA Galaxy, a sold out rugby league test to celebrate Darren Lockyer's last game in Australia, a sold out netball test between Australia and England and turning around massive financial losses in both the Knights and the Jets.
On the roller coaster ride there was also the father and son departure of Branko and Jason Culina, the handing back of the Jets’ A-League licence, dismantling the Jets Advisory Board and a particularly disappointing start to the season by the Knights. All of this while the red and the blue of Newcastle was unified to be a national symbol of sport in the Hunter.
No doubt, the critics will see the glass half empty and highlight these issues but looking closely, the glass is really pretty full.
Knights and Jets members now enjoy the most affordable prices in either competition for season passes. The community has embraced this and the Knights have seen memberships rise from less than 5,000 to 17,000 – the largest increase in the NRL. Jets fans have also stepped up from less than 1,000 to over 10,000 members. The biggest rise in the A-League.
Corporately, the all-year-round package and exposure for Knights and Jets sponsorship has seen both Clubs now enjoy partnerships with some of the country’s biggest companies, while smaller sponsorships and corporate hospitality have increased in many areas by more than 100 per cent.
Perhaps the biggest change in both Clubs has been the major investment in junior development. While this will take several years to bear fruit, the seeds have been sewn to ensure a clear path will be available for all children to follow their dreams and talent to become Knights and Jets.
CEOs Matt Gidley and Robbie Middleby have underscored this with the appointment of Gary van Egmond, Wayne Bennett, Rick Stone, Graham Murray, Clayton Zane and Craig Deans to guide our future stars on a clear pathway.
New state of the art training facilities for both Clubs will certainly hold them in good stead and ensure all Knights and Jets players, no matter what age, will have every opportunity to reach their full potential.
Playing and watching both teams in a genuine state of the art stadium is an added pleasure, but there is no hiding from the facts both teams have not reached their full potential on the field.
Working feverishly behind the scenes is a Knights Advisory Board headed up by Chairman Paul Harragon and supported by Club stalwarts Steve Crowe, Michael Hagan and others who are determined to ensure the Knights remain community focused and have success off and on the field.
The first steps were recently taken with the inaugural Hall of Fame which the Knights community really embraced as we welcomed five true legends of the Club in its first intake.
An all-new community department has been set-up and is taking its initial steps to keep up the good work of the 100% Knights program and a host of other community initiatives featuring Knights and Jets players.
The Jets Advisory Board is being restructured with Ray Baartz at the helm ensuring that it reemerges with contributors from politics, the community, football and commerce.
Perhaps, the two biggest stories in Australian and Newcastle sport over the past 20 months have been the privatisation of the Knights and the decision to hand back the Jets’ licence.
This licence decision still has its critics who are dominated by self-interest, but the majority of the football world held its breath and then applauded as the Jets made a real breakthrough.
The Club managed to tear down a six-month old brick wall by ensuring the Jets’ acquisition fee was brought into parity with the game, the Jason Culina insurance debacle was finalised with a compromise by all parties and the A-League competition is now under going financial restructuring with input from all Clubs.
The Jets’ stand has now been acknowledged as a watershed moment for the sport all around the country and ensured stability for the Club and the entire A-League competition.
On the field, the Jets are now assembling one of the most talented young squads ever seen in Australian football and the future for the Club is bright.
Naturally, with the Knights’ privatisation and rebuilding the Jets, we all wanted instant success on and off the field but unfortunately, it can be a slow and exhausting process.
Be assured that no one wants success more than the entire coaching staff, players and management. As a group we share your frustrations and disappointments particularly when so many of you have bought into the dream of making Newcastle and the Hunter the sporting capital of this great country.
Sport is a roller coaster ride as the past 20 months have shown with the emotional highs and lows.
We invite you to come on board and enjoy the ride as we attempt to do what could have only been a dream two years ago. That is, have a community that has pride in successful teams representing the region and being showcased to the rest of Australia.
We will make Newcastle proud of the Knights and Jets and ensure every child in the region has a chance to wear the red and blue with pride!
 
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Interesting. We all know this though. I agree we are very fortunate. Sport is about results in the now. Hopefully we will be the best there is sooner rather than later.
 
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perverse

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good read? i found it completely condescending. here were my thoughts on facebook:

me on FB said:
A nice self-serving fluff piece to take focus away from performance on the field, or am I just being cynical?

Tinkler and HSG are to be commended for the work they are doing in Newcastle sport, no doubt about it. Our Rugby League players playing soft football is a completely separate issue. The crowds will continue to dwindle until some of these blokes get a heart transplant. I was actually surprised that we managed 15k to the last match.

Bennett isn't to blame. He knows what works. The players need to be held accountable for their performances at some stage, because each of them are capable of far more.
 

Jobdog

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Pervy, they posted 15k at the last game, but you and I know there was nowhere near that many. The scary part about it all is that when the Tigers come to town on Monday week, I've got grave concerns about our "home ground" advantage. You watch the Tigers fans come from everywhere.
 

perverse

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yeah, certainly didn't look like 15k to me. not even bloody close... i was just being generous and quoting the figure that was provided.

that article just feels like 5 tonnes of smoke getting blown up my arsehole.
 

Apey

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It didn't come across as condescending to me at all and the article would have been written regardless of our on-field performance.

I should have elaborated on 'good read' though - I'm happy to be reminded that despite the shit on-field results we're moving forward in other areas. I don't know how it detracts from how shit we've been on the field this year... I mean how do you even expect to be detracted from that in sport as a dedicated fan? lol, I watch every game of ours, I'm not going to forget them all of a sudden because of this article.
 

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It didn't come across as condescending to me at all and the article would have been written regardless of our on-field performance.
i'm not so sure it would have, to be honest. i'm not sure how you can make that assertion, regardless. it totally reeks of "look, look over here at the shiny new toys!" to me. or even a sly little "you should be grateful".
 

Apey

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I think you're being a bit too cynical in this instance but each to their own.

Eh, I figured they were always going to come out with essentially a "<time> since Tinkler" article some time this year that summed up everything that's happened with our club in the last two years. Perhaps you have a point regarding the timing, but had we been doing better I don't think it would have come sooner.
 

perverse

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i just don't think you reflect on anything until a season is over, to be honest. 20 months is such an arbitrary amount of time, only adding to my skepticism.
 

macavity

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I'm with pervy.

That was embarrassing for us all.

Also interested to know how he knows what "5 tonnes of smoke getting blown up my arsehole" feels like. I would imagine 5 tonnes of smoke is a lot!
 

perverse

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it feels like a tonne of smoke being blown up your arse multiplied by a factor of 5, i would imagine.
 

cram

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I've got grave concerns about our "home ground" advantage

Not sure home ground advantage even exists for us at present, poor effort resulting in low crowds and an atmosphere that is nin existent adds up to no home ground advantage.

There will be more pain come Monday week based on recent form.
 
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Simple equation for HSG is to now shut the f### up and get on with doing what they promised. Action is everything. The timing of this letter is interesting given Sau, Wes and Richie are all allegedly being shopped around before the June 30 deadline hits. Ironically all are fan faves but non locals. If they in fact all do get moved on then the reactions will be something to keep an eye on. There are still many fans who think Wayne is the problem and the boys don't like him. Tough s### if they don't. He is the greatest coach of all time. I know who I will be backing when push comes to shove.
 

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Simple equation for HSG is to now shut the f### up and get on with doing what they promised. Action is everything. The timing of this letter is interesting given Sau, Wes and Richie are all allegedly being shopped around before the June 30 deadline hits. Ironically all are fan faves but non locals. If they in fact all do get moved on then the reactions will be something to keep an eye on. There are still many fans who think Wayne is the problem and the boys don't like him. Tough s### if they don't. He is the greatest coach of all time. I know who I will be backing when push comes to shove.

Article seems balanced, pros and cons but who cares?
Don't think HSG is really that worried? If they were, there would be sackings and cost cutting.

This looks like a typical corporate statement that says we bought a pile of shit, had some wins and some losses, still in or the long haul. So what? Says nothing for us to read either way.

Why is the crap form of the fg team a reason to ridicule this statement?
 
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Pledge I think what myself and others are saying is we don't need to be reminded that we should merely be thankful for what we have been given by HSG.. We handed over a huge part of us all when we gave our great club to them. We know the deal.
 
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perverse

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20 months?

Why not 2 years? Or end of first full season......
exactly. misdirection. damage control.

it's probably something to be celebrated, in a sick and twisted way. 20 months ago we wouldn't have known how to spin a good news story had our playing squad just saved a bus of the elderly driving off a cliff.

the improvement in our media skills has been profound over the past year or so.
 

Big Tim

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exactly. misdirection. damage control.

it's probably something to be celebrated, in a sick and twisted way. 20 months ago we wouldn't have known how to spin a good news story had our playing squad just saved a bus of the elderly driving off a cliff.

the improvement in our media skills has been profound over the past year or so.

Didnt make myself clear. I completely agree with you, I know why they produced it at "20 months" I just think it is quite silly.

However, most of our supporter base happily gulp whatever the club or media deliver, so it has probably been quite successful for the club.

Whilst all this stuff is true, it is a smack in the face to the hardcore base who know all this, and just want the team to put in something of a concerted effort on the field.

I go back to 2005. Clearly our worst season, but never did I think the players didnt try or care, I know they did. I cant be certain on the current roster.
 

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I go back to 2005. Clearly our worst season, but never did I think the players didnt try or care, I know they did. I cant be certain on the current roster.

It really highlights that results aren't everything to genuine supporters.

During that horror run I was still excited to tune into every single match, because I continued to see effort, enthusiasm, heart, young players trying to prove themselves, etc.

I wanted that team to win a game for themselves more than for myself as a fan. I just really wanted them to feel good about themselves after such a heartbreaking string of losses.

But this year? It's hard to even watch the games. "Inconsistent" went out the window ages ago - we are just consistently dreadful and heartless.

Also, if conceding a penalty from a kick-off after conceding a soft try is not one of the biggest indicators for a where a football team is at then I don't know what is! Panthers did it the other day with the double whammy of players in front of the kicker AND the ball going dead on the full... and when we have done both this season.

Would be stunned if the Storm had ever lapsed like that?
 

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