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Supersonics a step closer to returning

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Been a lot of action in Seattle this past week clearing the way for the possible return of the supes'


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Our friends in Seattle were busy last week.
On Tuesday, a city council committee took a big step toward making Seattle an NBA-ready town again, approving a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) that would authorize the construction of a $490 million multi-use arena in the city's South Downtown area, near the sites of the Seahawks' CenturyLink Field and the Mariners' Safeco Field. The arena would be home both to a relocated NBA and NHL team.
There are still several hurdles to overcome and it will likely be at least 18 months before the first shovel hits the first patch of grass. But the deal is a sea change for the city. Its inability to convince the Washington state legislature to approve a new arena deal in 2007 and 2008 was the death knell for the Sonics, whose new owner, Clay Bennett, had a foot out the door anyway and soon moved the team to Oklahoma City.
Hedge fund manager Chris Hansen has pledged to buy an existing team and move it to his hometown. But without an arena deal, there was no chance the NBA would approve such a move. That big obstacle has now been removed.
Five years ago, when Bennett was looking for the city and county to foot the bill for most of a $500 million building in suburban Renton, many locals blanched, both at the cost and at another multi-millionaire sports owner asking them to pay for a palace, as the Seahawks and Mariners had in recent years. There was arena fatigue.
But in the four years since the Sonics left, sentiment changed. And supporters of an arena produced people from a broad cross-section of social and economic strata -- from heads of construction companies to public school teachers -- who told city council members they were on board.

Thanks to last week's political events, Seattle-ites got a step closer to getting the NBA back.
"We won it with numbers," said Brian Robinson, the old Save Our Sonics co-founder now running Arena Solution, a local coalition of business, community and entertainment leaders in town that has lobbied for a new building to lure a team. "That's how we did it. We had more people."
A final vote of the full council to approve the deal is schedule for a week from today. But after a 7-1 committee vote -- supporters were surprised they'd get eight people to vote, much less seven supporters -- approval is expected. Hansen went ahead and bought celebratory beers for 1,500 fans last Thursday at a local bar.
The city got several concessions from Hansen's original proposal that had been worked out with Mayor Mike McGinn in May. Hansen had already pledged $290 million of the total $490 million to build the arena. Now, he has committed to repaying the $200 million the city and county will put toward construction if the new arena doesn't generate enough revenues over 30 years to pay the city back.
Hansen had to double, from $15 to $30 million, a reserve fund established to pay the city back immediately if there is a financial shortfall in the first years of the deal, and has agreed to an independent, annual audit of his finances to ensure he is worth at least $300 million personally. And he pledged to pay up to five years of the debt service on the arena if need be.
The city also got Hansen to agree to spend $7 million in the interim to make improvements to Key Arena, where the Sonics played from their inaugural season in Seattle in 1967 until they moved, including refurbishing of the locker rooms.
According to a source with knowledge of the negotiations between Hansen and the city, the NBA has indicated, informally, that if Hansen is successful buying a team and moving it to Seattle, the league could live with the team playing temporarily at Key until the new arena is completed.
There are opponents to the deal. There is concern that the agreement violates the state's environmental protection laws that require municipalities to consider alternative sites and conduct environmental impact studies before committing to specific areas for public projects.
There is still opposition from officials at the Port of Seattle, the sprawling nexus of commercial docks, cruise ship terminals and shipping lanes that is the sixth-busiest in the United States and third-busiest on the west coast. The Port also owns the land on which Seattle-Tacoma Airport lies. But some of the Port's busiest areas are in Sodo, and some Port officials claim the proposed arena and its subsequent affects on local traffic patterns could cost up to $3 billion in annual revenues at the Port, impacting up to 33,000 jobs.
But Hansen also committed $40 million to a transportation fund designed to try and alleviate potential traffic issues, including construction of roads and bridges that would help ease congestion. And the city agreed to a year-long environmental review that would explore potential alternative sites to the Sodo location favored by Hansen, who has spent $50 million the past two years buying land in that area.
Ominously, though, there appears to be opposition from the Mariners. The proposed site for the NBA/NHL arena is near one of the parking lots at Safeco. The Mariners released a statement Thursday in which they indicated they'd prefer the new arena be built elsewhere.
Hansen told the Associated Press last week, "about the only comment I would make is the Seahawks and [Major League Soccer's] Sounders have engaged with us and are interested in what we are doing, expressed their concerns and are willing to work with us. We have made a lot of outreach to the Mariners and they are not interested in having a dialogue. You can't reach a point with people if they're not interested in having the discussion about what it would take to make it happen and make it acceptable for them."
There also remains the not-so-small issue of finding basketball and hockey teams to buy and move.
The Sacramento Kings are always first on everyone's lists these days, though the Maloofs would have to sell to Hansen, obviously, before they could be moved, and the Maloof family has given no public indication that they're ready to do that. But there isn't a single soul in the league that doesn't think the Kings are again looking at Anaheim as a potential destination after this season in Sacramento. There are rumblings that the Kings have lawyered up.
But everyone has a price. Hansen has a few hundred million, a commitment for a building, and time on his side. It's not inevitable that he or anyone else buys the Kings, nor is it a fait accompli that they are leaving Sacramento. But it's worth watching.
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/featur...uture-with-thunder/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Now getting my team back by taking someone else's team isn't ideal , but it's been going on in american sports for over 100 years , so it is what it is.

The big question is what team is most likely to come to Seattle if any at all?

The kings?
The grizz?
The hornets ?

The NBA model is very strange when you have teams in some very small markets but none in a major & rich city like Seattle.
 

Ridders

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Been a lot of action in Seattle this past week clearing the way for the possible return of the supes'



http://www.nba.com/2012/news/featur...uture-with-thunder/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Now getting my team back by taking someone else's team isn't ideal , but it's been going on in american sports for over 100 years , so it is what it is.

The big question is what team is most likely to come to Seattle if any at all?

The kings?
The grizz?
The hornets ?

The NBA model is very strange when you have teams in some very small markets but none in a major & rich city like Seattle.

No chance with the Hornets. Isn't their new owner also the owner of the New Orleans Saints?

Kings seem to be a possibility, as from everything I've read, the Maloofs have been considering relocating for a while.

That's the sad thing with the whole Seattle thing. The only way they're going to get a team back is by doing to another city what Bennett did to them. I doubt the NBA would be interested in expansion.
 
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No chance with the Hornets. Isn't their new owner also the owner of the New Orleans Saints?

Kings seem to be a possibility, as from everything I've read, the Maloofs have been considering relocating for a while.

That's the sad thing with the whole Seattle thing. The only way they're going to get a team back is by doing to another city what Bennett did to them. I doubt the NBA would be interested in expansion.

Totally forgot about the ownership change in new Orleans , the nba got lucky on that one. Probably was the leading candidate to come to Seattle.

In regards to Seattle taking another city's team it would be pretty ironic , however Chris Hansen ( the likely owner of any team to move to Seattle) has said that the difference would be he would be 100% up front about moving any team he buys.

When clay Bennett bought the sonics it was a totally different story.

But this same thing has happened many times before in American pro sports.



The other option could be the clippers. The maloofs have wanted to move the kings to anaheim for a long time. Perhaps if that got approved Donald sterling might sell the clippers?
 
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attamarrap

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I think it would be the kings if any team the maloofs would be willing to sell for the right price
 

canberra_raiders2k2

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Every 2k game that comes out I import the sonics and dump the abomination that is the Thunder.

Bennett is merkin, did nothing to keep the team in Seattle. I feel bad for whatever team relocates, nothing worse then having your team out of an elite competition.

Reading the article, unlikely to have a team for about 4 years.. At the least.
 

Special K

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Imagine being a sonics fan and finally getting your team back only to see durant and co killing it for the thunder.
 
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Every 2k game that comes out I import the sonics and dump the abomination that is the Thunder.

Bennett is merkin, did nothing to keep the team in Seattle. I feel bad for whatever team relocates, nothing worse then having your team out of an elite competition.

Reading the article, unlikely to have a team for about 4 years.. At the least.

It could take 10 years to get a team back.

But the really important thing is the NBA have seemingly given the nod to a team playing out of key arena before the new complex is built.

So let's say Hansen bought the kings this coming season , they could be playing in Seattle as soon as the 2013/2014 season.
 
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Really??

That would be awesome! I cannot watch the NBA these days. If the sonics returned so would my interest.

Yep.

The most important thing is Seattle has an owner lined up.

Now he just has to find a team to buy.

Good source of info for whats going on ,

www.sonicscentral.com


This weeks developments mean that if he finds a team the Seattle council have given approval for a new arena. One which the city will only have to fund 200 million of the 490 million cost.

Hansen has also given an undertaking that he'll repay the 200 million difference if the revenue a team brings to the city falls short of expectations.
 

glockers

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I'm a Kings fan with Webber, Bibby, Kevin Martin and Tyreke Evans jerseys. I wouldn't mind a city change (Vegas please) but a name change would suck. That said Seattle needs a team and it should be called the Supersonics.

On the other hand I'm not a die hard as I am loyal to the Kings and Celtics but also appreciate certain teams. Aka Jordan era Bulls teams, especially the second three peat. Sir Charles era Suns, Bad Boy Pistons in the late 80s, Run TMC era Warriors.

The loyalty is less tribal than NRL due to frequent player moves.
 
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I'm a Kings fan with Webber, Bibby, Kevin Martin and Tyreke Evans jerseys. I wouldn't mind a city change (Vegas please) but a name change would suck. That said Seattle needs a team and it should be called the Supersonics.

On the other hand I'm not a die hard as I am loyal to the Kings and Celtics but also appreciate certain teams. Aka Jordan era Bulls teams, especially the second three peat. Sir Charles era Suns, Bad Boy Pistons in the late 80s, Run TMC era Warriors.

The loyalty is less tribal than NRL due to frequent player moves.

If you're a fan of great teams you have to appreciate the kemp/Payton era at the sonics.

Yeah they never won the title , but they were still an awesome team. Better than a hell of a lot of teams that have won the title.

The 96' finals series was epic , down 3-0 staring at a sweep we took 2 games off the greatest basketball team of all time.
 

IowaRL

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Hmm, if it took 6 years to bring back the Sonics, would fans support a D-league team in the meantime? Progress is progress, and I beleive the NBA are a little more free with movement and such.
 
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A DL team would be a certainty if we were getting an expansion team.

Less likely if hensen buys a team. Whichever team he buys would already have a DL team connection at least. And a bought team comes with a roster , an expansion team might have a place for 2 or 3 DL players on their roster. Though likely on the injured list.
 

Special K

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Id take that over having no team at all.

Who knows where OKC will be once we get our team back though.

Agreed but it has to be bittersweet I guess is what I meant. I really hope they come back they were are huge part of when I feel in love with the NBA in the 90s.
 
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I want to see the Sonics back but would feel bad to see a franchise go but surely the Bobcats have to be prime to go?

Talk is the bobcats may re-launch as the Charlotte hornets again now that the new owner of the new Orleans has indicated they will change the name of that team.

So that could yet buy them a few more years.

Also there is the Michael Jordan factor with Charlotte. He won't want to be seen as a failure.
 
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