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Nathan Tinkler relinquishes ownership of the Newcastle Knights

BunniesMan

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Tew, the personficiation of integrity. Did the difficult and unpopular thing and was stubborn when everyone wanted him to shut up and go away, and he did all that because it was the right thing to do. The cliche is hindsight is 20/20, well Robbie Tew had 20/20 vision when it mattered.
 
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Serious?

The issue is that the value of his assets are falling, hence BM's comment that his debt is getting larger than his assets.

Pretty simple really. Even BM gets it!
 
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Read the post? Whitehaven is worth $660m.. Patinack at worst fire sale value is $150m. Even all too hard by himself is worth $20m. There is also another $200m in other properties around the world.
 
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Read the post? Whitehaven is worth $660m.. Patinack at worst fire sale value is $150m. Even all too hard by himself is worth $20m. There is also another $200m in other properties around the world.

Really?

How much is your house worth when the bank sells it?

Debt to f**king debt ratio and ability to service the loan is all they care about. If they can get their 700mil they don't give a shit about what papers think current market value is.
 

jc155776

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Bank guarantee drops to 10 mil as of January 1.

Also who will be able to add all those outside the cap extras to players packages once tinky boy is gone?

Has the debt actually been paid down as well???
 

Slackboy72

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I think you mean debt to equity ratio Miller.
The point is he's borrowed based on his Whitehaven assets which have halved in value over the last 18 months. There's probably all sorts of caveats about what he can and can't do with that holding. The only thing stopping those lenders from stepping in is the fact that they own a significant chunk of WHC too and they don't want it to lose more value.

I'd also like to know where the 150m figure for Patinack came from? Did it get pulled from Tinkles big fat arse?
 
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I think you mean debt to equity ratio Miller.
The point is he's borrowed based on his Whitehaven assets which have halved in value over the last 18 months. There's probably all sorts of caveats about what he can and can't do with that holding. The only thing stopping those lenders from stepping in is the fact that they own a significant chunk of WHC too and they don't want it to lose more value.

I'd also like to know where the 150m figure for Patinack came from? Did it get pulled from Tinkles big fat arse?

Some minor subsidiary of Patinack I think the admin company that pays wages went into recievership. The rest is still running at this stage.
 
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Really?

How much is your house worth when the bank sells it?

Debt to f**king debt ratio and ability to service the loan is all they care about. If they can get their 700mil they don't give a shit about what papers think current market value is.

You seem very angry. Did your house get sold by a bank?
 

Pistol_Pete

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Maybe he rang gids and filled the jet up before its last flight to Singapore
Stopped at Denpasar and offloaded gids & his friends to do their bit at schoolies ?
 

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my2centsworth

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Really?

How much is your house worth when the bank sells it?

Debt to f**king debt ratio and ability to service the loan is all they care about. If they can get their 700mil they don't give a shit about what papers think current market value is.

What about the WHC stock. He has something ridiculous like 50-100x daily average turnover. In a fire sale you can take a fair chunk off that valuation.
 

Loudstrat

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Sadly, its getting worse.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...eat/story-fn2mcuj6-1226533019806#.UMRUP3dTGSo

Newcastle Knights in a $20 million dilemma with Nathan Tinkler's ownership of club under threat







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In jeopardy ... Tinkler's money troubles could cause issues for Wayne Bennett's contract. Source: Liam Driver / News Limited


Troubled billionaire Nathan Tinkler's ownership of the Newcastle NRL team is under threat due to a standoff with the Knights Members Club board over the terms of his $20 million bank guarantee.

In the same week that Tinkler had his $15 million private jet and a helicopter re-possessed, News Limited has learned Hunter Sports Group has asked for an independent audit of the Knights, which was due to be completed by next Saturday, to be pushed back to February 15.
But the Knights Members Club board have refused to comply unless Tinkler extends his $20 million bank guarantee - due to drop to $10.3 million on January 1 - across the same time frame.


"There's a lot of concern in Newcastle and the Hunter community. The Knights Members Club board are being asked to stay vigilant and alert," Knights Members Club board chairman Nicholas Dan said.
"We want to make sure the bank guarantee stays at its highest until they've finished the independent audit obligations, but HSG have a difference of opinion there.
"By moving the audit date but not moving the bank guarantee date means Knights members can no longer put pressure on HSG for any funds to be committed if there's a shortfall.


"We're communicating with them just about daily and we're pleased that the auditing process is commencing."
The latest development comes as Tinkler's empire continues to crumble, with horse racing arm Patinack Farm and another company, Mulsanne Resources, placed into liquidation.
And last Thursday, the NSW Government launched legal action against HSG over $600,000 in unpaid rent for Hunter Stadium.
Under the terms of Tinkler's 10-year $100 million privatisation deal, HSG guaranteed the Knights Members Club would be supplied with an independent audit on December 15 each year.
Failure to do so is a breach of the contract, but Newcastle chief executive Matt Gidley denied Tinkler's tenure as owner was under fire.


"Obviously (Tinkler's) had a number of issues in his own business world through the course of this year, but it sort of gets washed over the amount of investment he's poured into our club," Gidley said.
"To have someone like Wayne Bennett ... without Nathan Tinkler there's no Wayne Bennett at Newcastle.
"Having our membership where it is, we were third in crowd attendance this year even though we finished 12th.
"The club is well positioned to really push into 2013 and be a genuine contender.
"It's important we acknowledge that and enter 2013 focused on the footy and support our team as best we can. We look forward to meeting with the Members Club as soon as possible to find a resolution in order to continue to put the focus back on the club."
News Limited can reveal accounting firm Crosby Warren Sinclair will begin the audit this week, where HSG must make up any shortfall on the promised $10 million in sponsorship and $2.5 million in junior development.
Failure to inject the cash could result in the Members Club calling on the $20 million bank guarantee to be placed into a joint account.
If Tinkler's deal with the Knights were to collapse, the contract of Bennett and all other staff employed by HSG would be placed in jeopardy.


 

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