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even tommy raudonikis is laying the boot into us

Poupou Escobar

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Now with a salary cap and Parramatta's finances it is hard to find an excuse.

The finances are nearly irrelevant due to the salary cap, and the salary cap is exactly why we struggle to lure talent away from other clubs.

Every player has a certain value. That's the maximum price you should pay for the player before your salary cap suffers. So for us to poach players from their clubs we would need to pay more than what they are worth. But if we do that it hurts our salary cap and therefore our ability to recruit/retain other players. It's a vicious circle.

The way out is to focus on identifying future first graders through the 'academy'. This is how the strong teams remain so - they essentially get a couple of years of value out of young players by paying them unders. Take Canberra for example; Papalii has been worth $300k+ for nearly two years but he won't be getting anywhere near that much until next year. In fact the only reason we even had the chance to sign him is because Canberra thought they could re-sign him on the cheap again. At least now they have been forced to pay market price. This is what we've done with guys like Tanginoa and Pritchard, who are signed until 2015.

The other way we can recruit first graders without having to pay overs is by offering the opportunity to play regular NRL footy, where their current clubs cannot. This is how we got Roberts, Harrison, Norman and Peats.
 

spiderdan

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Refer to magpie4ever's post. Apparently the super league war torn their team apart
much like piggins with souths during that time, i'd give credit for stuffing wests to tommy and the people who put him in charge of the team.

always had a soft spot for the magpies so felt bad for them being so crap for most of the 90s like we were.
 

spiderdan

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The finances are nearly irrelevant due to the salary cap, and the salary cap is exactly why we struggle to lure talent away from other clubs.

Every player has a certain value. That's the maximum price you should pay for the player before your salary cap suffers. So for us to poach players from their clubs we would need to pay more than what they are worth. But if we do that it hurts our salary cap and therefore our ability to recruit/retain other players. It's a vicious circle.

The way out is to focus on identifying future first graders through the 'academy'. This is how the strong teams remain so - they essentially get a couple of years of value out of young players by paying them unders. Take Canberra for example; Papalii has been worth $300k+ for nearly two years but he won't be getting anywhere near that much until next year. In fact the only reason we even had the chance to sign him is because Canberra thought they could re-sign him on the cheap again. At least now they have been forced to pay market price. This is what we've done with guys like Tanginoa and Pritchard, who are signed until 2015.

The other way we can recruit first graders without having to pay overs is by offering the opportunity to play regular NRL footy, where their current clubs cannot. This is how we got Roberts, Harrison, Norman and Peats.
stop talking sense. you'll just confuse some people.
 

IFR33K

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much like piggins with souths during that time, i'd give credit for stuffing wests to tommy and the people who put him in charge of the team.

always had a soft spot for the magpies so felt bad for them being so crap for most of the 90s like we were.

I still have a soft spot for them too. I live for the day the magpies return, and they f**k the tigers off once and for all. A might even do a parra Pete if that were to happen.
 
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magpie4ever

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The finances are nearly irrelevant due to the salary cap, and the salary cap is exactly why we struggle to lure talent away from other clubs.

Every player has a certain value. That's the maximum price you should pay for the player before your salary cap suffers. So for us to poach players from their clubs we would need to pay more than what they are worth. But if we do that it hurts our salary cap and therefore our ability to recruit/retain other players. It's a vicious circle.

The way out is to focus on identifying future first graders through the 'academy'. This is how the strong teams remain so - they essentially get a couple of years of value out of young players by paying them unders. Take Canberra for example; Papalii has been worth $300k+ for nearly two years but he won't be getting anywhere near that much until next year. In fact the only reason we even had the chance to sign him is because Canberra thought they could re-sign him on the cheap again. At least now they have been forced to pay market price. This is what we've done with guys like Tanginoa and Pritchard, who are signed until 2015.

The other way we can recruit first graders without having to pay overs is by offering the opportunity to play regular NRL footy, where their current clubs cannot. This is how we got Roberts, Harrison, Norman and Peats.

That is my point - in 98,99; Wests couldn't compete on the open market due to finances.
 

Maroubra Eel

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Sounds like it's all going to plan Poupou. After 3 straight years of running last, imagine how strong we are going to be once the academy starts kicking in.

#powerhouse
 

magpie4ever

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Instead of wasting your time in an eels forum, why not organize a few wests boys and do a rally, ala south a few years back. We see less of your posts and wests back in the comp. win win.

I believe we (Wests) need to wait until Balmain fall from the tree re: bankrupt before a case can be made for the return of the magpie.

So you don't want me here; I probably have a closer tie (at this stage) to Parramatta then most of the posters here.

So you only want to kiss each others arses - that wouldn't be any fun.:D
 

IFR33K

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Hill, Gillespie, Hopoate to name a few - do you want more?

Hill and cement left in 1993. Hoppa joined in 2000

Wests had ample time to develop juniors to accommodate the loss of hill and co.

Just a weak club with a bad choice of coach, results in no more magpie.

For the record, magpie>>>>tigers.
 

IFR33K

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I believe we (Wests) need to wait until Balmain fall from the tree re: bankrupt before a case can be made for the return of the magpie.
D

Can you see balmain going belly up any time soon, from what keeps getting reported???

If it were to happen, do you think the wests board will go back to magpies, or stay as tigers.
 

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