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SMH: Parramatta Council proposes idea of offering third-party sponsorship to Eels

Gronk

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Parramatta Council plans to debate next week the merits of providing third-party sponsorship for the city's NRL team, at a time when its salary cap dealings are under the spotlight because of a Fairfax Media investigation.
It will be put to the council that it should pay between $75,000 to $100,000 towards a first-grader but it intends to use the word "ambassador" to make the possible use of rate-payers money towards an athlete making hundreds of thousands of dollars more palatable.
A Parramatta insider described the move as an "insult" to the hard-working members of the Parramatta community.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ip-to-eels-20150724-gijmtl.html#ixzz3gln75YMN
 

emjaycee

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I don't have a problem with this idea.

Is using my rates any different to my bank fees being used by "ABC Bank" to sponsor a player or using a percentage of the cost of my new ASIC's to sponsor a player?

If a marquee player can be brought/bought into the club because a small % of my rates are being used as a TPA and as a result of having that player the team perform better then there will potentially be more people attending the game, more people paying council for parking, more people eating in the local restaurants, more revenue for council and subsequently more benefits for my community - isn't that what paying rates are for?

And yes, I pay rates to Parramatta Council.
 

oldmancraigy

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There are something like 60k households in Parramatta council (is that right? Or am I selling it short, fairly sure that is right).

Based on rates ALONE, just a $5 amount taken from the rates of each household just once per year would enable the council to employ 4 'ambassadors' at $75k each. Worth noting that council makes money from many other sources (rates being the main one I suppose?).

Now, if that Ambassador is required to attend a few civic functions over the course of a year, things that would generate (or raise the level) of interest in Parramatta, that would in turn do all the things MJC has said - generate business for restaurants, parking, cafe consumption, etc etc.

I don't pay rates to Parramatta council, but I like the way they are thinking.

The only concern I have is this: I don't think you can give a player a TPA that requires them to play for a particular club without that TPA counting against said clubs salary cap.
I haven't paid much attention to salary cap detail over the last 4-5 years, but my memory is that TPAs organised by the club, or requiring a player to be at a club, are part of that clubs salary cap.
 

oldmancraigy

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so they can pay a TPA conditional on that player playing for the Eels?

Pretty sure no.

They could probably pay a player conditional on them playing 5 games per season in the Parramatta district though.... (or even at Parramatta Stadium)
 

emjaycee

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Pretty sure no.

They could probably pay a player conditional on them playing 5 games per season in the Parramatta district though.... (or even at Parramatta Stadium)

They could pay a player to say how great "Eat Street" restaurants are and how good they are to go to after a game at Pirtek.
 

Angry_eel

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Perhaps they should put this money into saving car parks in the Parra CBD. That might bring more people to Parramatta.
 
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I pay rates and don't mind someone saying help clean up our city, visit our parks, enjoy shopping etc if we need to pay a singer, actor, cricketer, of eels player I don't mind cos I reckon more people would listen if it is someone they recognise and there is research to prove that
 

T.S Quint

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so they can pay a TPA conditional on that player playing for the Eels?

They can, but it will fall under the salary cap.

But there's an easy way out - Parra council just says, "Nah, we're not paying him just because he plays for Parramatta".
Problem solved. There would be very few TPAs out there that aren't contingent on that player playing for a certain club. It's just too hard for the NRL to prove it.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ls-thirdparty-agreements-20150725-gikf4z.html

Council of war over Parramatta Eels third-party agreements

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July 25, 2015 - 8:00PM

Daniel Lane
Sports reporter & Video journalist

The fallout from reports that Parramatta City Council had considered bankrolling a $75,000 third-party agreement for the Parramatta Eels for Tim Mannah, William Hopoate and Nathan Peats meant the proposal would most likely be scuttled after backlash from the community and some councillors.

While there was nothing illegal about the proposal - although the idea of topping up the wages of highly paid athletes was always going to incite anger from rate payers - the council controversy was the last thing the Eels needed in a week where the club's murky third-party agreements were put under the microscope by a Fairfax Media investigation published on Friday.

The council was expected to discuss a memorandum of understanding between them and the Eels to enter into a non-binding legal partnership with the club to work on community initiatives that would contain no financial implications to rate payers.

However, a memo sent to the Lord Mayor and councillors on March 20 by Rebecca Grasso, director of marketing and city identity, detailed a proposal to pay three first graders $25,000 each to act as ambassadors for the council.

It was expected to be mentioned in general business at Monday's meeting before councillor Pierre Esber told 2GB radio's Ray Hadley about it on Friday.

Esber revealed the council was preparing to pay $75,000 to players on lucrative contracts and when Hadley asked whether he'd read the three-page report in The Sydney Morning Herald detailing Parramatta's third-party deals Esber replied that he hadn't.

A Parramatta council spokesperson contacted Fairfax Media on Friday to say Esber's information was incorrect and no one knew what he had based his claim on.

On Saturday Fairfax Media received copies of Grasso's memos detailing the proposed arrangements, which offered Mannah, Hopoate and Peats what were described as "Third Party Agreements" where it suggested the payment structure put to the player's management was: "Third Party Agreement for each Player, paid in two installations - 50% at commencement of the TPA and 50% at the half way mark of the TPA."

Parramatta council has defended itself by saying it had acted upon a request by one of the councillors to look at forming a relationship with the Eels. In the early stages of negotiations in 2014 it was suggested by Parramatta's football operation's manager Daniel Anderson that Jarryd Hayne should be among the three players to benefit from any financial agreement.

Hayne was replaced by Mannah when he severed ties with the NRL to trial for a contract with the San Francisco 49ers NFL franchise.

On Friday a source who would not be named said while the MoU on the agenda for Monday night's meeting was about arrangements between the council and the Eels, they said of the $75,000 "if someone in council is dumb enough [to raise the money Esber mentioned on 2GB] they'll do it".

On Saturday Fairfax Media was told there was little chance of the sponsorship taking place in light of Parramatta's previous third-party arrangements and community outrage.

Fairfax Media understands some councillors are uncomfortable with the proposed arrangement but only one, independent councillor Lorraine Wearne, was prepared to go on the record to offer her personal opinion, when she said on Friday she would oppose the program.

"If our council is going to give them $75,000 to a player - direct to a player - the ambassadorship is not to the club," she said. "I would suggest to you there'll be justifiable questions about the salary cap if my colleagues were silly enough to vote that we become involved in something like that."
 

Twizzle

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So this so called council of war is one person, ?

lol

Nice headline though.
 

Stagger eel

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Just a question...

If this is such a shit fight amongst rate payers, why can't the council offer discounted rates to local businesses that offer TPA's to our contracted players to endorse their products?
 

ash411

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I tell you one thing though, if they do, the player need to make one request.

Money. Up. Front.

:lol:
 

ParraSteve

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When Parramatta council take over Holroyd, Auburn, Ryde and bits of the hills council areas the 75k will be a drop in the ocean for them.
 
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