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  1. M

    Cameron v Joey?

    Oh I see so after defending Johns at hooker now you're saying he didn't even play hooker through the mid 90's. Where is the evidence that Pearce didn't drop Noddy after Game 1 because Anderson was coaching Australia? Daley, Fittler and Hill weren't even contesting Johns' position so I don't...
  2. M

    Cameron v Joey?

    I have a prejudice against Johns? :roll:I called him arguably the best of all time. Is anybody actually reading what I'm writing?
  3. M

    Cameron v Joey?

    I didn't say the idea originated with Gould. Please read what's written. I said the rhetoric about Johns being so good that he had to be there at hooker came from Gould. It is not a testament to Johns's ability in the way NSW fans are often fond of asserting. It's not as if Gould or Fulton...
  4. M

    Cameron v Joey?

    I wasn't bagging him. I was showing that the notion that he was picked at hooker because he was so good is factually and historically untrue. He was picked at hooker because he wasn't good enough to play halfback over Toovey. You could say the same thing about Tim Brasher who wasn't there in...
  5. M

    Cameron v Joey?

    As for my own opinion on the matter, it's a difficult one. I don't really think I'm even in a position to pronounce upon it because I really haven't gone back and watched the tapes of Smith's earliest career. So I'm not sure who I'd call the better player. Whoever it is though is in line for the...
  6. M

    Cameron v Joey?

    :roll: And in the first year of them being back in line and under the cap, legally, after losing blokes like Inglis and Lima, Smith captains Melbourne to their first premiership since 99.:lol: Good call. And I think you'd be very surprised to see how Cronk would go without Smith. He basically...
  7. M

    Cameron v Joey?

    Nah that's rubbish. The line about Johns being so good he could play hooker is so factually and historically incorrect. It's just a bullshit line originating with Phil Gould (the coach at the time.) Johns wasn't dropped from halfback after his first two games in 95 because he was so good he...
  8. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    I think it has to do with a heavier workload in defence. Since Johnson left his defensive numbers have gone up.
  9. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    Yeah, Gallen's a regular Andrew Johns...:lol: Flippancy aside, how is my view on the position too narrow? You're the one saying blokes like Myles and Johnson are not playing lock because they don't act as link men. You're pushing at an open door with me if you think NSW should play Gallen...
  10. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    It's overwhelmingly common though so I think it's fair to say that's the role of the modern day lock.
  11. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    Plenty of them get used as alternate dummy-halves too. But the first definition is the most accurate. Lock and front row are almost indistinguishable, save minutes played and work rate. This is why Gallen's transition, if you want to call it that, to the front row was never in doubt. He...
  12. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    There are ball playing locks and there are non-ball playing locks. It's ridiculous to suggest that Myles and Johnson have not been playing lock because they haven't been Johnny Raper-esque link men. Your description is antiquated IMO. If you play middle-third and you rove (particularly in...
  13. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    Nah, that's just not true. Myles plays middle-third while Thaiday, Harrison and Parker all play on the fringes. Harrison and Parker rove a bit but Myles is clearly playing lock. I can only ask that people watch the games from the last 3 years again. Myles playing front row at times does not...
  14. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    Why would you name a player in the second row when he's been playing lock (middle third) for the last 3 years? Parker and Harrison wear 13 but they're not playing lock. Myles is.
  15. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    Sorry but that's nonsense. Thaiday Game 1 - 63m Game 3 - 77m Harrison Game 1 - 93m Game 2 - 115m Parker Game 3 - 97m Myles Game 1 - 76m Game 2 - 90m Game 3 - 120m And all of them made more metres despite making more tackles than Thaiday. Benching Thaiday makes sense...
  16. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    Why do people name Myles at 12? Harrison off the bench makes no sense at all to me. He's not an impact player. But I'm not surprised to see him criminally underrated on here again. The lack of acknowledgement of his ball playing makes me very suspicious.
  17. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    I don't think 2010 or 2011 were how you described it. I think he had a quiet series last year (our entire left side failed to make it's usual impact afaic). But before that he was very important to our left side structure. Running wrap-arounds and decoys with Slater. And as I said, ball playing...
  18. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    Well, again, agree to disagree. I have a good reel here of Harrison's link play. I think he was our best forward in 2008 because of the number of times he got GI on the outside. His effort in Game 1, 2009 was also one of the best of any of our forwards. As for defence, apart from his lapse...
  19. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    Well, I couldn't really disagree more. I'm a big fan of Harrison and think he's the most underrated player in our side. Just on defence alone. I think Parker performed the role Harrison has been for years. Harrison has been a key link man between JT and GI since 2008. His ball playing has been...
  20. M

    2013 QLD Origin Side

    There's no law of nature that says you have to use all 17 men. We don't need any more forwards. We have Harrison to cover the backs and halves. Ballin means we have all bases covered. Who would you have in the 14 and in what role would you use him?

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