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'10 | R1 | Fri | Eels 12-18 Dragons | Parramatta

Result: Eels v Dragons


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Lambretta

First Grade
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Hayne very ordinary.

Do the commentators have money on Parra? Fair dinkum. A strip with 2 in the tackle is a penalty every time.

If that was a strip then I'm a monkeys uncle.

They hit him good and he dropped the ball. Yes hands hit the ball but it wasnt raked at.

There were a load of dodgy calls that went Saints way - knock ons etc, but the most damning stat (and congratulations to Saints here) was the error rate. Parramatta were riddled with errors and Saints had 3 by half way through the second half.


Oh one thing that game showed was the idiocy of enforcing the "downtown" rule.

The rule was going to be enforced to encourage more open field plays by full backs.

The idea being that down the field chasers reduced the time a full back had in possession. So logically, call those players offside and the fullback has more time to return the ball and therefore there is more open play and the game is more exciting.



Well, nice idea but the reality is different.

St George showed tonight that if you are close to the end goal you can kick into the corners and trap the full back in the corners. If you're too far away you kick the ball dead and set your defensive line on the 30 metres to stop the fullback touching the ball and thereby slowing the game down dramatically and stopping the most exciting players getting the ball. Hence the major reason why Hayne was nullified. He didnt touch the ball unless the defence were right on him.

The exact polar opposite of what the rule change was supposed to do

Wayne Bennett is not a stupid man. Congratulations on taking no time at all to show how a change in rule designed to make a game more attacking can make it far more defensive.
 

Frailty

First Grade
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Jarryd Hayne's game tonight will exemplify the rest of his season -> poor.

Was good to see Grothe Jr. rightly blasting him.
 

Noa

First Grade
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St George showed tonight that if you are close to the end goal you can kick into the corners and trap the full back in the corners. If you're too far away you kick the ball dead and set your defensive line on the 30 metres to stop the fullback touching the ball and thereby slowing the game down dramatically and stopping the most exciting players getting the ball. Hence the major reason why Hayne was nullified. He didnt touch the ball unless the defence were right on him.

The exact polar opposite of what the rule change was supposed to do

Wayne Bennett is not a stupid man. Congratulations on taking no time at all to show how a change in rule designed to make a game more attacking can make it far more defensive.

It was obvious last year that something should have been done to prevent that. Should be a re-start from the 30 for any kicks that go dead from outside the red-zone, from the 40 if you kick from your own half
 
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skeepe

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While I know a lot hateeverything to do with rugby, they've got that one right. If a kick goes dead in goal, it's a scrum where it was kicked or a 22, whichever is further.
 
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The gobbling in the commentary box is catching up with Hayne.

After that remarkable fluke over the last 8 weeks or so, I think he'll just return back to his normal state of a good first grade fullback. He's killed it while it lasted and made the most of his luck so good on him I guess.
 

aqua_duck

Coach
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IMO Matt Keating is rubbish, Parra looked so much better last year when Kingston was operating out of dummy half
 

_Johnsy

Referee
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Great way to start the season, excellent win for the Dragons. Bad start to the tipping for 2010. My Man Of The Match: Jeremy Smith. Strong running out wide, scored a good try and was good in defence. Jamie Soward was good without being brilliant, his kicking game was pivotal. Michael Weyman was a good contributor for the entire game too.

Plenty of positives for Parramatta, some concerns raised too. I couldn't believe some of the decisions made by their halves late in the second half. They failed to direct the team and looked to rely on Hayne. Timana was good in his comeback, will get better. Luke Burt was solid, great try, safe as per usual.

3 - J. Smith (Stg)
2 - J. Soward (Stg)
1 - M. Weyman (Stg)

No Dan HUNT, 3 points without any doubt
 

Lambretta

First Grade
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While I know a lot hateeverything to do with rugby, they've got that one right. If a kick goes dead in goal, it's a scrum where it was kicked or a 22, whichever is further.

Agreed. Saints were kicking it dead from 40 to nullify Hayne and Inu and it killed the game.

Agreed that Burt is under rated. (was it Adam that said that?) When they kicked to him he was evasive and almost got Parra going. Pity he didnt have as much support as he needed.
 

Jason Maher

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So one poor games makes Hayne an overrated nuffy? Puh-lease. I'm reserving my judgement until he's had a few chances to play as a marked man, which will be the case far more this year than it was last year. I expect he'll come good.

As for the result, good to see we still labour to win games we dominate, but at least we've got rid of that damned round 1 curse. The injury to Fien will hurt us. Relying on Young or Priddis from dummy-half will not be fun. 2 points in the bag against a very sluggish Eels team. Next week will be a much tougher examination I expect.
 

Y2Eel

First Grade
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Great way to start the season, excellent win for the Dragons. Bad start to the tipping for 2010. My Man Of The Match: Jeremy Smith. Strong running out wide, scored a good try and was good in defence. Jamie Soward was good without being brilliant, his kicking game was pivotal. Michael Weyman was a good contributor for the entire game too.

Plenty of positives for Parramatta, some concerns raised too. I couldn't believe some of the decisions made by their halves late in the second half. They failed to direct the team and looked to rely on Hayne. Timana was good in his comeback, will get better. Luke Burt was solid, great try, safe as per usual.

3 - J. Smith (Stg)
2 - J. Soward (Stg)
1 - M. Weyman (Stg)


Dan Hunt would be my vote for 2 points he was awesome..

Soward WTF he was terrible f**king hopeless in attack whenever he ran the ball he would fall over.. He aint going to guide the Dragons to sh*t glad he signed a new deal...
 

Dragon

Coach
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Soward WTF he was terrible f**king hopeless in attack whenever he ran the ball he would fall over.. He aint going to guide the Dragons to sh*t glad he signed a new deal...

Lets be fair, didn't exactly have the outside men to work with tonight. I thought he was fine, kicking game won us the match. Id be more worried about your halves, f**king woeful
 

Gaba

First Grade
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i thought hayne was amongst the eels dangerous attackers , just will find it harder against defence which is on thier game
 

Y2Eel

First Grade
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Lets be fair, didn't exactly have the outside men to work with tonight. I thought he was fine, kicking game won us the match. Id be more worried about your halves, f**king woeful


You had the forward momentum the whole game your forwards laid the platform look at the field and ball possession.. Like Gould was saying any good halves would have been wanting to touch the ball he didnt look interested never has thats prob why he wasnt wanted at the roosters he has a kicking game thats about it...

The Dragons can come up with fantastic forwards the best in the comp too bad it cannot find any decent halves...

BTW We have Mateo Mortimer Robson And Kris Keating the only think id wish they had was Sowards kicking game...
 

typicalfan

Coach
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Um Hayne was good, he had the odd blemish but was the main contributor in both tries, and has if anything upped his general play contributions.

Not his best game but you can hardly say he went missing or played poorly. LOL at Burt getting a point ahead of Weyman or Hunt on here too. Seriously?
 
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aqua_duck

Coach
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Jarryd Hayne's game tonight will exemplify the rest of his season -> poor.

Was good to see Grothe Jr. rightly blasting him.
Would've been better served blasting himself
Seriously people expect way too much of Hayne, if Josh Dugan (just as example) put in that kind of performance people would be saying he played well, but with Jarryd Hayne, if he doesnt score a try where he beats half the team, make 3 try saving tackles, set up 3 tries and kick a 40/20 he's had a poor game
 

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