18th club, whose next?

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

which bid will cannibalise existing clubs?

You and your mates claimed the Dolphins would cannibalise the Broncos and Titans. Broncos have never been stronger with more active supporters than ever. Members have increased to more than 50k. Averaging 40k at Lang Park.

Anyone one of your assertions refuted.

which bid will continue to push NRL as a NSW and QLD only competition?

No one cares about this except for insecure lunatics like you and your mates.

The broadcasters don't give a shit. Not once has Ch9 and Foxtel come out and said they want teams in Adelaide and Perth.

The ARLC doesn't care, either.

Besides, how can the NRL be a "NSW and QLD only competition" when it has teams in Victoria, ACT and New Zealand?

Think before you get all hysterical and post your insecurities about AwFuL on here. If you're that worried about being teased in the shithouse at work by your Victorian colleague then grow some nuts and tease him for watching a game that's based on grown blokes fumbling a ball a million times over a cricket field with a few "behinds" fisted through the goal posts.

which bid will make the AFL collectively laugh at NRL cause it will have little impact on their business?

Why would the "AFL collectively laugh at NRL"?

The last thing they want is rugby league to grow stronger in Brisbane when the Lions have the largest debt in AwFuL -- accrued with just one NRL club in the city.

Dolphins are the second or third richest rugby league club in the world. That's less commercial opportunities available for the Lions since the Dolphins' introduction. A third Brisbane team is estimated to become one of the four richest rugby league clubs in the world.

which bid has a low ceiling for support and will probably always be in the shadow of its neighbouring clubs?

Perth. It'll struggle to attract 15k active fans and be lucky to draw 20-25k TV viewers in its home market.

Brisbane 3 will probably have 25-35k active fans and be watched by 120-150k TV viewers in its home market.

You really haven't thought this through.

Thanks for confirming you're scared of AwFuL and want expansion to be based around easing your paranoia over what fumbleball fans may or may not think. I was right about you all along.

 

[The Great Dane]

As for the rest of your imported American culture wars bullshit, no-one in Australia cares about it.

You say that, but it’s actively undermining our culture and social cohesiveness and rotting the brains of whole generations of our children.

You may not care about it, but it cares about you.

 

[Perth Red]

The reality is if the NRL is announcing who club 18 will be in 6 months time they will already be a long way down the road of making that decision. PNG, and Perth are the two obvious front runners. Brisbane3 is unlikely to be in the frame as they wont add in another Brisbane club whilst Dolphins are still finding their feet. Christchurch outsiders given they only started talking to the NRL a few weeks ago. Its unlikely it will go top open tender and much more likely the conversations have already been had, the prospect's have been reviewed and the NRL is just dotting some I's before the announcement.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It’s proper insane to try and compare expansion of a professional sports league to affirmative action, especially when you clearly don’t understand what it actually is.

Either you do not know what affirmative action is or you're gaslighting.

Affirmative action throws merit out of the window and discrimates against the "dominant" group so "minorities" can gain employment, regardless of whether they're the most qualified candidate for the job.

You've whinged for years that the "dominant" Queensland and NSW have held the game back in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth. You've also said the only way to grow rugby league in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth until it's no longer a "minority" sport in these markets is by using a top down approach that starts with an NRL team of their own, even though there is no demand for one and better qualified bids from Brisbane and New Zealand exist. On top of that, you want Queensland and NSW to prop up these projects for decades.

Sounds like affirmative action to me. You'll continue the gaslighting process by saying I've misinterpreted your stance and don't know what affirmative action is, then bring up fast food companies creating franchises in new markets to justify your stupid stance on putting unwanted teams in Adelaide and Perth. It's what you do because you're a boring old know-it-all prick.

 

[The Great Dane]

The reality is if the NRL is announcing who club 18 will be in 6 months time they will already be a long way down the road of making that decision. PNG, and Perth are the two obvious front runners. Brisbane3 is unlikely to be in the frame as they wont add in another Brisbane club whilst Dolphins are still finding their feet. Christchurch outsiders given they only started talking to the NRL a few weeks ago. It’s unlikely it will go top open tender and much more likely the conversations have already been had, the prospect's have been reviewed and the NRL is just dotting some I's before the announcement.

The noise around town all suggests that PNG is well advanced and has nominal bipartisan support for the moment.

The only thing that stops it now is a significant change in the political landscape before the election, which is almost inevitable, but still, only a madman would bet against them at the moment.

 

[mongoose]

You and your mates claimed the Dolphins would cannibalise the Broncos and Titans. Broncos have never been stronger with more active supporters than ever. Members have increased to more than 50k. Averaging 40k at Lang Park.

Anyone one of your assertions refuted.



No one cares about this except for insecure lunatics like you and your mates.

The broadcasters don't give a shit. Not once has Ch9 and Foxtel come out and said they want teams in Adelaide and Perth.

The ARLC doesn't care, either.

Besides, how can the NRL be a "NSW and QLD only competition" when it has teams in Victoria, ACT and New Zealand?

Think before you get all hysterical and post your insecurities about AwFuL on here. If you're that worried about being teased in the shithouse at work by your Victorian colleague then grow some nuts and tease him for watching a game that's based on grown blokes fumbling a ball a million times over a cricket field with a few "behinds" fisted through the goal posts.



Why would the "AFL collectively laugh at NRL"?

The last thing they want is rugby league to grow stronger in Brisbane when the Lions have the largest debt in AwFuL -- accrued with just one NRL club in the city.

Dolphins are the second or third richest rugby league club in the world. That's less commercial opportunities available for the Lions since the Dolphins' introduction. A third Brisbane team is estimated to become one of the four richest rugby league clubs in the world.



Perth. It'll struggle to attract 15k active fans and be lucky to draw 20-25k TV viewers in its home market.

Brisbane 3 will probably have 25-35k active fans and be watched by 120-150k TV viewers in its home market.

You really haven't thought this through.

Thanks for confirming you're scared of AwFuL and want expansion to be based around easing your paranoia over what fumbleball fans may or may not think. I was right about you all along.

hahah he gets so angry and frustrated if anyone questions his precious Brisbane Tigers. It's not even worth debating any of your points, they are just the usual strawman's, ad hominem attacks and completely baseless predictions - "A third Brisbane team is estimated to become one of the four richest rugby league clubs in the world." estimated by who, you?

 

[Wb1234]

It's the same organisation and some times it's easier and clearer just to refer to them as the RFL.

It's okay to use the terms interchangeably so long as everybody understands what's being refered to.

No it’s not easier

it was called northern rfu for a reason

you know because they were playing rugby union like before

 

[Wb1234]

The reality is if the NRL is announcing who club 18 will be in 6 months time they will already be a long way down the road of making that decision. PNG, and Perth are the two obvious front runners. Brisbane3 is unlikely to be in the frame as they wont add in another Brisbane club whilst Dolphins are still finding their feet. Christchurch outsiders given they only started talking to the NRL a few weeks ago. Its unlikely it will go top open tender and much more likely the conversations have already been had, the prospect's have been reviewed and the NRL is just dotting some I's before the announcement.

No chance Perth is a front runner

its between png and Christchurch

all that’s left is for sky nz to talk about wanting more rugby league content and its curtains for Perth

the impact on the dolphins in league booming in qld will not be lost on what nz2 can do for nz league

 

[The Great Dane]

Either you do not know what affirmative action is or you're gaslighting.

The connection you're trying to make to affirmative action is an insanely long bow and you've stretched it way beyond breaking point.

Your analogy is grounded in the assumption that NRL sides from outside the "heartlands", namely Brisbane in your case, would inherently be inferior and that people want them included as 'diversity' measurers, both of which is simply false on face value.

You're actively going out of your way to misrepresent opinions you don't like at this point.

 

[The Great Dane]

No it’s not easier

it was called northern rfu for a reason

you know because they were playing rugby union like before

You had no trouble understanding what I was saying and the vast majority of the population don't even know that the RFL was originally known as the NRFU anyway, which leads to confusion.

 

[Perth Red]

No chance Perth is a front runner

its between png and Christchurch

all that’s left is for sky nz to talk about wanting more rugby league content and its curtains for Perth

the impact on the dolphins in league booming in qld will not be lost on what nz2 can do for nz league

you're welcome to your opinion, as ill informed as it may be.

 

[Brian potter]

The noise around town all suggests that PNG is well advanced and has nominal bipartisan support for the moment.

The only thing that stops it now is a significant change in the political landscape before the election, which is almost inevitable, but still, only a madman would bet against them at the moment.

A club dependent and built around the government of today in 2 countries is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Perth Red]

The noise around town all suggests that PNG is well advanced and has nominal bipartisan support for the moment.

The only thing that stops it now is a significant change in the political landscape before the election, which is almost inevitable, but still, only a madman would bet against them at the moment.

Agreed.

 

[Brian potter]

No chance Perth is a front runner

its between png and Christchurch

all that’s left is for sky nz to talk about wanting more rugby league content and its curtains for Perth

the impact on the dolphins in league booming in qld will not be lost on what nz2 can do for nz league

It should be between Perth or NZ2.

 

[Perth Red]

A club dependent and built around the government of today in 2 countries is a recipe for disaster.

it is indeed. Its going to be a very interesting journey to watch if PNG are brought in.

 

[Brian potter]

it is indeed. Its going to be a very interesting journey to watch if PNG are brought in.

it is indeed. Its going to be a very interesting journey to watch if PNG are brought in.

Watched through hand covered eyes.

 

[The Great Dane]

You and your mates claimed the Dolphins would cannibalise the Broncos and Titans. Broncos have never been stronger with more active supporters than ever. Members have increased to more than 50k. Averaging 40k at Lang Park.

Anyone one of your assertions refuted.

I don't know anybody relevant that made such a claim about the Broncos. Shit most of the people you're talking about (myself, PR, etc) had been arguing for a second Brisbane side for years, or even decades in other formats, before you showed up.

Members don't necessarily equal active supporters either.

Membership numbers are of little value as a measure of anything anymore, especially in the case of clubs like the Broncos and Dolphins that sell single game memberships and the like. You'd need comprehensive breakdowns of the numbers to gain any useful information out of them, and that's never going to be public.

 

[The Great Dane]

A club dependent and built around the government of today in 2 countries is a recipe for disaster.

Yeah sooner or later it'll end in tears.

 

[Brian potter]

Yeah sooner or later it'll end in tears.

Not before someone has pocketed a large amount of government handouts.

 

[Wb1234]

You had no trouble understanding what I was saying and the vast majority of the population don't even know that the RFL was originally known as the NRFU anyway, which leads to confusion.

If the vast people are ignorant that’s no excuse

1895 was a schism not a breakaway

no new sport was created in 1895