18th club, whose next?

[Iamback]

I used to think people were trolling now I realise they are literally that stupid

I am not doubting Gus said that.

That was in response to 3 games at NSO. If true and it now is 1 then the side already looks different. Maybe now Bears are seen as a stronger bid then back in April or whenever it was

On the flip side those Cummins articles for me expressed doubts in certain areas.

Again we don't have business cases to assess on, Those who do may change their minds several times even now

 

[Wb1234]

Here is my original message. Maybe get your carer to read this time?

I clearly say IF a new club is seen as too risky.

Again now there is a criteria and 2 bids to choose from we will see. Hell neither Perth Bid might not be good enough

Wasting your time that guy is just dense

 

[Billythekid]

I don’t know how we can be critical of teams like GWS and support a team like the Perth bears. If they are actually end up playing games at NSO that’s crazy to me. This will end up being the one and only team representing Perth for the NRL and having it be some half Sydney club is crazy.

I’m more than happy to be proven wrong but if you want to build a big successful team in a relatively new market it needs its own identity. Yes I know teams like the swans started a similar way but ultimately they moved on from that.

 

[Iamback]

I don’t know how we can be critical of teams like GWS and support a team like the Perth bears. If they are actually end up playing games at NSO that’s crazy to me. This will end up being the one and only team representing Perth for the NRL and having it be some half Sydney club is crazy.

I’m more than happy to be proven wrong but if you want to build a big successful team in a relatively new market it needs its own identity. Yes I know teams like the swans started a similar way but ultimately they moved on from that.

Any new team is coming in with no extra salary cap, No draft so need to build from within.

Only reasons Bears are a chance is the lack of pathways in these areas.

As for the game at NSO teams sell home games anyway. So a single game is no different any more than that is where it can be hard for a team to take hold

 

[Maximus]

I used to think people were trolling now I realise they are literally that stupid

Don't worry, the rest of us have never had any doubt you are as stupid as you appear.

 

[Maximus]

Any new team is coming in with no extra salary cap, No draft so need to build from within.

Only reasons Bears are a chance is the lack of pathways in these areas.

As for the game at NSO teams sell home games anyway. So a single game is no different any more than that is where it can be hard for a team to take hold

How are the Bears going to help with that? Why is a kid from North Sydney more likely to sign with a Perth team than a kid from anywhere else in Sydney?

 

[Billythekid]

Any new team is coming in with no extra salary cap, No draft so need to build from within.

Only reasons Bears are a chance is the lack of pathways in these areas.

As for the game at NSO teams sell home games anyway. So a single game is no different any more than that is where it can be hard for a team to take hold

There is a difference between voluntarily selling off a game and sharing your identity with another club.

I don’t buy the argument that taking on the bears name and playing any amount of games at NSO will make it any easier for them to compete.

The only reason this would even be considered is because of where the money is coming from which is fair. My issue is you don’t want to risk the long term performance of your team for short term dollars. We want the people of Perth to back this team so they can build a nice supporter base like what the storm have managed. You do that by building your own identity in the place you’re expecting fans to come from.

 

[Iamback]

There is a difference between voluntarily selling off a game and sharing your identity with another club.

I don’t buy the argument that taking on the bears name and playing any amount of games at NSO will make it any easier for them to compete.

The only reason this would even be considered is because of where the money is coming from which is fair. My issue is you don’t want to risk the long term performance of your team for short term dollars. We want the people of Perth to back this team so they can build a nice supporter base like what the storm have managed. You do that by building your own identity in the place you’re expecting fans to come from.

The articles that had direct quotes in it from Cummins. He mentioned they need to find $30m to help with start up costs.

Newtown Jets - ( John Singleton ) confirmed the same.

I look at clubs like Souffs who have private guys buy into the club. Cannon-Brooks for example has a seat on the board as a result.

So the question is what are Perth willing to give up to get the cash, Then is Norths Leagues getting a seat any different then other examples?

So depends on the final makeup for me there examples of similar working and I'd expect lots of questions to be asked by those making the decisions

 

[Vlad59]

There is a difference between voluntarily selling off a game and sharing your identity with another club.

I don’t buy the argument that taking on the bears name and playing any amount of games at NSO will make it any easier for them to compete.

The only reason this would even be considered is because of where the money is coming from which is fair. My issue is you don’t want to risk the long term performance of your team for short term dollars. We want the people of Perth to back this team so they can build a nice supporter base like what the storm have managed. You do that by building your own identity in the place you’re expecting fans to come from.

Talking to brick walls here. Apparently you can’t put a side in Perth without giving it a Sydney identity. No matter how Lamback spins it that’s what he’s saying.

 

[Wb1234]

I don’t know how we can be critical of teams like GWS and support a team like the Perth bears. If they are actually end up playing games at NSO that’s crazy to me. This will end up being the one and only team representing Perth for the NRL and having it be some half Sydney club is crazy.

I’m more than happy to be proven wrong but if you want to build a big successful team in a relatively new market it needs its own identity. Yes I know teams like the swans started a similar way but ultimately they moved on from that.

Why pick gws and not the swans ?

 

[MugaB]

Why pick gws and not the swans ?

Your Swans hahahaha

 

[Wb1234]

There is a difference between voluntarily selling off a game and sharing your identity with another club.

I don’t buy the argument that taking on the bears name and playing any amount of games at NSO will make it any easier for them to compete.

The only reason this would even be considered is because of where the money is coming from which is fair. My issue is you don’t want to risk the long term performance of your team for short term dollars. We want the people of Perth to back this team so they can build a nice supporter base like what the storm have managed. You do that by building your own identity in the place you’re expecting fans to come from.

Perth has no identity

they are fully adopting the bears as their identity

 

[Vlad59]

Perth has no identity

they are fully adopting the bears as their identity

He makes a great point and you respond with your standard Sydney centric crap.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Any new team is coming in with no extra salary cap, No draft so need to build from within.

Only reasons Bears are a chance is the lack of pathways in these areas.

As for the game at NSO teams sell home games anyway. So a single game is no different any more than that is where it can be hard for a team to take hold

The difference is Sydney clubs choose to play at an neutral venue in exchange for money from the host council of the city. Sydney hosts about 100 games each year.

Bears are demanding a game be taken to NSO without any compensation. At one stage they wanted six games to be played at NSO. Perth will only get a maximum of a dozen games a year.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Perth has no identity

they are fully adopting the bears as their identity

Perth doesn't want the f**ken Bears to be their identity. It's being forced on them by V'landys.

 

[Dragonwest]

Perth doesn't want the f**ken Bears to be their identity. It's being forced on them by V'landys.

I'm not hearing a lot of negativity surrounding the Bears over here in Perth club land.

 

[Iamback]

Talking to brick walls here. Apparently you can’t put a side in Perth without giving it a Sydney identity. No matter how Lamback spins it that’s what he’s saying.

Well no happy to have Perth stand alone...

Just answer the Pathways question?

IF Perth stand alone is no brainer surely you would be able to say the plans for their pathways?

No one can answer that yet that is meant to be a better option?

 

[Iamback]

I'm not hearing a lot of negativity surrounding the Bears over here in Perth club land.

Again no one is forcing Bears on Perth. Perth can go it alone but are choosing to talk to the Bears.

So there must be some people atleast open to the idea

 

[Wb1234]

I'm not hearing a lot of negativity surrounding the Bears over here in Perth club land.

Perth doesn't want the f**ken Bears to be their identity. It's being forced on them by V'landys.

Lol

 

[Maximus]

Well no happy to have Perth stand alone...

Just answer the Pathways question?

IF Perth stand alone is no brainer surely you would be able to say the plans for their pathways?

No one can answer that yet that is meant to be a better option?

How are the Bears going to help with that? Why is a kid from North Sydney more likely to sign with a Perth team than a kid from anywhere else in Sydney?