Y2Eel said:god i hope manly win:lol:
The Grand Final?!?!?!!???????
Y2Eel said:god i hope manly win:lol:
CharlieF said:The Grand Final?!?!?!!???????
Y2Eel said:yeah to rub it into the smug bastards face...
CharlieF said:Oh thats right. Forgot you guys are playing them tonight.
Y2Eel said:tomorrow and damn i hope we win....![]()
CharlieF said:The Manly team lost last night. Just like the Melbourne team lost last year.
It is a team sport.
What if Manly go onto win the GF. Your little outburst is going to look pretty stupid. I'm not claiming they will win, but if they do I can bet that you will not say it was Orford that won it for them, the same way as you are saying he lost the game.
And yes, I know that you have been saying it ever since he left Melbourne and not a minute before it.
Ice777 said:I do agree with you, teams do lose a game and it's never an individual thing. But while i said that Orford choked again, i never once said he lost them the game. Yes he could have won it with that kick, but at the same time that kick never lost them the game and there's a big difference to that and me calling him a choker.
Even any staunch Manly supporter would have to agree that he was down on his usual game and that's exactly what used to happen when he played finals for Melbourne. Again i never ONCE blamed him for losing the game last night or the games he played for Melbourne, it was a team thing as you rightly pointed out. But what i did say is that his finals performances never reached the heights as what they did during the year. He goes mising and it's happened far too many times now to be classed as a conicidence.
and you're wrong, i was saying all this when he was playing for us. He was by far my favorite player when he was here and I did let it go the first year, i even let it go in the second year to an extent but when it happened in the 3rd year even i couldn't defend him anymore. My mates would've killed me if i defended him anymore and i just couldn't. You all get pissed off at me for saying what i do, but all i'm doing is stating facts and those facts are is that he just doesn't perform the same in finals as he does throughout the year. That's not being smart, it's just the way it is.
philstorm said:Ice, you're being silly. Orford didn't 'choke', he had a very good game for mine.
Sure, he struggled with that final conversion, but it's a tough kick and i'm sure that even the bset of them would struggle with that one.
I admit, I havn't been his biggest fan ever since he left, but I wish him all the best of luck during the finals.
philstorm said:Ice, you're being silly. Orford didn't 'choke', he had a very good game for mine.
Sure, he struggled with that final conversion, but it's a tough kick and i'm sure that even the bset of them would struggle with that one.
I admit, I havn't been his biggest fan ever since he left, but I wish him all the best of luck during the finals.