1st Test: Australia v South Africa at Brisbane 9-13 Nov

[undertaker]

Nice to see Greigy again. Look forward to seeing Greigy and Bill back in the commentary box again. Best of luck for the operation on Tuesday!

 

[Hallatia]

:lol: I did

 

[El Diablo]

Cricket Australia are f**king morons, we had Troy Cooley as our bowling coach for year's, a Tasmanian who was a nuffy bowler himself and our bowlers were pathetic, we bring in a former great in Billy McDermott who knows test match bowling like the back of his hand, and our bowlers destroy the Indians. So when Billy decides he doesn't want to do it anymore who do they replace him with, another Tasmanian who was a nuffy bowler in his playing days, basically another Troy Cooley minus the cough lollies.

whats worse http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...as-bowling-coach/story-e6frf3gl-1226442411547

De Winter said he had learnt a tremendous amount from former Australia bowling coach and fellow Tasmanian Troy Cooley.

"We're very, very close and I've also done some work with 'Billy' (McDermott)," de Winter said.

 

[aqua_duck]

whats worse http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...as-bowling-coach/story-e6frf3gl-1226442411547

Wonder when the cough lollies will be brought out.....

 

[undertaker]

Who the hell is this Ali De Winter person? Never heard of him. I bet CA must be ruing their decision not to opt for the legendary Waqar Younis. How the hell could CA screw up a decision like this?

 

[Hallatia]

Australia turned him down

I guess what I'm offering and what they're looking at are two different things.

sauce

 

[undertaker]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...as-bowling-coach/story-e6frf3gl-1226442411547

A veteran of 21 cricket first-class games with Tasmania, de Winter left the game with a modest record of 35 wickets at 50.51.

:lol::lol::lol:That says it all. Give whoever wrote that article an uppercut.

 

[Hallatia]

I think that person was having a laugh. I appreciate the way that was written:lol:

 

[aqua_duck]

Who's this Waqar Younis bloke anyway, he only took 373 test wickets, I mean we have Troy Cooley 2.0 here

 

[AlwaysGreen]

I'm not sure what a bowling coach, be they deWinter, Cooley, McDermott, Waqar or WG f**king Grace can do with the likes of Siddle, Bitch Johnson or Hilfyhorse.
You can't coach Siddle not to be an uncoordinated hack.
You can't coach Johnson not to be a selfish talentless c**k eater.

What the coach can do is help prevent the likes of Pattinson and Starc getting injured and hone their potential.

 

[Xfactor1979]

*Turns down the Channel 9 commentary*

^ The good stuff's on Abc grandstand

Why?

7 hours, you're going to talk other stuff other than cricket, listeners dont have access to see anything more than what is in their imagination

And, commentators arent all just purely Australians, so its more balanced and you get the point of view for the visiting team

Other than abc grandstand: Foxsports's cricket commentary is reasonable as well, in not needing to describe each and every ball

 

[aqua_duck]

I'm not sure what a bowling coach, be they deWinter, Cooley, McDermott, Waqar or WG f**king Grace can do with the likes of Siddle, Bitch Johnson or Hilfyhorse.
You can't coach Siddle not to be an uncoordinated hack.
You can't coach Johnson not to be a selfish talentless c**k eater.

What the coach can do is help prevent the likes of Pattinson and Starc getting injured and hone their potential.

McDermott did a fine job last year, Siddle and Hilfenhaus had a very difference approach, keeping the ball up, giving it every chance to swing and keeping the pressure on, it seems De Winter has gone back to the approach of his mentor Trevor 'cough lollies' Cooley of short pitched pies

 

[BunniesMan]

I rate a grand total of ONE of our bowlers. Pattinson. The rest will never have success against a quality team. We need to rebuild our attack.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

IMO Siddle and Hilfenhorse should be proffesional and experienced enough to maintain good line and length and stick to a plan without a coach.


f**k. I'm starting to sound like Ian Chappell. :crazy:

 

[El Diablo]

*Turns down the Channel 9 commentary*

^ The good stuff's on Abc grandstand

Why?

7 hours, you're going to talk other stuff other than cricket, listeners dont have access to see anything more than what is in their imagination

And, commentators arent all just purely Australians, so its more balanced and you get the point of view for the visiting team

Other than abc grandstand: Foxsports's cricket commentary is reasonable as well, in not needing to describe each and every ball

there's no Saffers on 9 because they have their own separate commentary mob that goes back to SA

same as what the poms do when they tour

 

[IanG]

Bad light has stopped play.

Will this mean an earlier start tomorrow?

 

[Hallatia]

I doubt it because it was only 8 overs

 

[Twizzle]

very ordinary bowling by a very ordinary bowling attack, Pattinson can maybe hold his head up but as I said before the test match started, Hilfy and Siddle are fringe test players and should only be used for rotation of the younger bowlers but even then we probably have better options

and some very good batting by some very good batsmen although this is not really a typical Gabba pitch but it doesn't help if idiots are gonna take wickets with no balls

 

[hineyrulz]

Thank f**k for that, honestly Siddle and Hilfy aredeadest average. They bowled well against a pathetic India but have never really troubled top batting teams like South Africa and England. Starc had to play and the decision to pick De Wintard ahead of someone like Waqar is mind boggling.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Good summation Twizzlestick. Realistically, if you've got a choice between Siddle and Starc you have to go with Starc. Lyon bowled ok, considering it was a first day pitch but lets face it - he's not going to run through sides.

I foresee another long day in the field tommorow.