1st Test: Australia v South Africa at Perth on Nov 3-7, 2016

[Bazal]

It was an awful decision really, there is no way you should be given out LBW 3.5m down the track hit on the knee roll at the WACA because it's just not hitting, ad I don't believe that was hitting either....but it only has to theoretically potentially be grazing the general vicinity of the stumps for it to come up umpires call and back a poor decision.

I'm not sure why it's a surprise though, Aleem Dar has never been a good umpire. IMO

 

[El Diablo]

3 wickets and suddenly the kiwis come

shock horror

 

[JJ]

I don't think those should be given even if it is out.

Now bear with me because the argument that if it's out it is out is a very convincing one

But technology will eventually get to the point where umpires are replaced by an automated process. the drs has shown loads of borderline calls that are just brushing the stumps. it would be a huge change to the game if a computer just goes beep book that's brushing the stumps you're out.

I am not going to criticise the decision but it's a dangerous road to go down. fast left arm bowlers just trying to pitch the ball a mm on leg to game an lbw type of thing.

It's not about the technology - umpire believed it was out, and the only evidence anyone has cited that he was wrong is that Smith was a long way down... that's a factor the umpire considers

 

[hineyrulz]

Lol imagine the outrage of dome on here if Don Williamson had of been given out to that decision???

 

[Iafeta]

I don't think those should be given even if it is out.

Now bear with me because the argument that if it's out it is out is a very convincing one

But technology will eventually get to the point where umpires are replaced by an automated process. the drs has shown loads of borderline calls that are just brushing the stumps. it would be a huge change to the game if a computer just goes beep book that's brushing the stumps you're out.

I am not going to criticise the decision but it's a dangerous road to go down. fast left arm bowlers just trying to pitch the ball a mm on leg to game an lbw type of thing.

So.... you're saying a human being going with a courageous and right decision advocates technology taking the umpires place

 

[Canard]

Lol imagine the outrage of dome on here if Don Williamson had of been given out to that decision???

Never heard of the f**ker.

But on a serious note, as Aussies we complain about the Indian's not wanting DRS, then we whine when it is used?

Seems more like a case of "I only want stuff that goes the way of my team"

 

[yobbo84]

Don't forget ball tracking is a guess. The further away from the stumps, the bigger the guess. And a guess which is effected by a multitude of things like light etc.

 

[JJ]

3 wickets and suddenly the kiwis come

shock horror

Australia are well on top - do you have a point?

 

[Bazal]

So.... you're saying a human being going with a courageous and right decision advocates technology taking the umpires place

Can we just get this right in all current and future DRS discussions? Umpires Call doesn't mean the umpire was right/wrong either way....it means the decision was within the accepted margin of error as to whether the ball was potentially hitting/missing etc.

Otherwise, carry on

 

[Pete Cash]

So.... you're saying a human being going with a courageous and right decision advocates technology taking the umpires place

No what I'm saying is that eventually a machine will take over umpiring (one of the easiest jobs to automate)

And we need to consider if that should be out even if the machine reckons it's clipping leg

 

[Canard]

Don't forget ball tracking is a guess.

Unlike umpiring??

 

[Bazal]

Never heard of the f**ker.

But on a serious note, as Aussies we complain about the Indian's not wanting DRS, then we whine when it is used?

Seems more like a case of "I only want stuff that goes the way of my team"

DRS isn't the issue here, it's the original decision for me. DRS simply judged that the mistake was within an acceptable margin of error and so the decision stood.

 

[Bgoodorgoodatit]

Why is it poor? It's unconventional, but Smith missed a straight one, and the umpire believed he was out...

Because its not particularly consistent decision by an ump for someone so far down the wicket... plenty of doubt as to what the ball will do so far away from the stumps.

for example from my reading of the rule if the ump have given it not out and hawkeye showed it hitting the middle of middle stump it would not be overturned due to the distance. Cant confirm this 100% as I don't know the exact distance he was from the stumps when he was hit (but it was obviously a fair way)

 

[Pete Cash]

Now that's lbw.

 

[JJ]

yeah, the original decision was unusual but ok

 

[hineyrulz]

That looked dead.

 

[Bazal]

That's a Watto challege....wtf

 

[Canard]

for example from my reading of the rule if the ump have given it not out and hawkeye showed it hitting the middle of middle stump it would not be overturned due to the distance. Cant confirm this 100% as I don't know the exact distance he was from the stumps when he was hit (but it was obviously a fair way)

I think that distance from the crease/stumps rule was amended. It certainly was the rule at one stage.

 

[Iafeta]

No what I'm saying is that eventually a machine will take over umpiring (one of the easiest jobs to automate)

And we need to consider if that should be out even if the machine reckons it's clipping leg

I think with umpires wearing protective gear nowadays because of flat wickets and heavy bats, I think their futures maybe more an OH&S discussion.

 

[Hutty1986]

LOL another one. Bet SA get a first innings lead. Pissweak.